Kirk cousins = dime a dozen

[Gary84Clark]

Boswell on Cousins: ‘I don’t see anything terribly special there yet’

[budw38]

He was a 4th rd pick so .... . I don't think anyone after 3 starts can honestly be cast as , good , great or bust . I would guess if KC has a strong work ethic , great confidence he can develop into a very good qb . RG111 can be great as he was last year with the right team/coaches . OL , DL , DB and I think this could be moving in the right direction .

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by budw38

He was a 4th rd pick so .... . I don't think anyone after 3 starts can honestly be cast as , good , great or bust . I would guess if KC has a strong work ethic , great confidence he can develop into a very good qb . RG111 can be great as he was last year with the right team/coaches . OL , DL , DB and I think this could be moving in the right direction .

Oh.....HELL NO Bud! Three starts is more than enough......
Just ask Troy Aikman, Peyton Manning.....Kurt Warner.....

[Bucket]

Originally Posted by Hog1

Oh.....HELL NO Bud! Three starts is more than enough......
Just ask Troy Aikman, Peyton Manning.....Kurt Warner.....

You need at least one year of him winning ROY and needing surgery on his knee for us to judge him a bust.

Oh wait. Wrong QB.

Washington has no patience. Owner, Fans, Coach. Doesn't matter. It's cursed.

[budw38]

Originally Posted by Hog1

Oh.....HELL NO Bud! Three starts is more than enough......
Just ask Troy Aikman, Peyton Manning.....Kurt Warner.....

LOL ...... Merry Christmas .

[44Deezel]

Originally Posted by Hog1

Oh.....HELL NO Bud! Three starts is more than enough......
Just ask Troy Aikman, Peyton Manning.....Kurt Warner.....

Don't forget about Brees. San Diego "saw his talent" and drafted Philip Rivers after his second year, because they Concluded he wasn't franchise QB material.

[HailGreen28]

Originally Posted by 44Deezel

Don't forget about Brees. San Diego "saw his talent" and drafted Philip Rivers after his second year, because they Concluded he wasn't franchise QB material.

Well, after Brees' third year. When he had lost his starting job for a few games to Doug Flutie. And later on the shoulder injury played a factor in SD's decision to let Brees go.

[44Deezel]

Originally Posted by budw38

He was a 4th rd pick so .... . I don't think anyone after 3 starts can honestly be cast as , good , great or bust . I would guess if KC has a strong work ethic , great confidence he can develop into a very good qb . RG111 can be great as he was last year with the right team/coaches . OL , DL , DB and I think this could be moving in the right direction .

I hate that draft position even matters. The NFL's "best and brightest" continually prove they have no clue when it comes to grading and drafting QBs. Even guys like Brees and Rodgers weren't early first round picks.

That said, I don't care where Cousins was drafted. He has played at practically a historic level in his first few starts at a position that even the best struggle mightily at for years. If he was our first round pick, we'd all be optimistic about the future. So unless you believe he's only going to get worse with more experience, there's no reason to think he's just a dime a dozen. But who knows. Projecting QBs is one of life's great mysteries.

[Gary84Clark]

My point is, Shanny knew Kirk was Kirk. Why did he lie about 1st round picks and stuff. He did the same things with Beck and we came in to the season just to wiund up with Grossman as the QB. Kirk is no better no worse than Grossman. Mediocre talent level. You can see talent level from his 3 starts.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by Gary84Clark

My point is, Shanny knew Kirk was Kirk. Why did he lie about 1st round picks and stuff. He did the same things with Beck and we came in to the season just to wiund up with Grossman as the QB. Kirk is no better no worse than Grossman. Mediocre talent level. You can see talent level from his 3 starts.

Don't buy into what Boswell is selling. Boswell is a baseball guy. When it comes to football, he couldn't find his own ass using both hands. He even contradicts himself by admitting that Kirk could be worth a second round draft pick to another team. Would an NFL team team send us a second round pick for the equivalent of Rex Grossman?

[Gary84Clark]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

Don't buy into what Boswell is selling. Boswell is a baseball guy. When it comes to football, he couldn't find his own ass using both hands. He even contradicts himself by admitting that Kirk could be worth a second round draft pick to another team. Would an NFL team team send us a second round pick for the equivalent of Rex Grossman?

Second year Rex Grossman you would get a 1st round pick.

[whistler]

Originally Posted by Gary84Clark

My point is, Shanny knew Kirk was Kirk. Why did he lie about 1st round picks and stuff. He did the same things with Beck and we came in to the season just to wiund up with Grossman as the QB. Kirk is no better no worse than Grossman. Mediocre talent level. You can see talent level from his 3 starts.

Shanny said "judge him on Beck and Grossman" I do just that with Cousins. Cousins is Beck/Grossman. 18 throws to Garcon against the Cowboys all check/stare-downs, what a game plan? The decision to draft Griffin will pay off and I hope that Shanny is no where near Ashburn when it happens.

[T.O.Killa]

Originally Posted by Gary84Clark

My point is, Shanny knew Kirk was Kirk. Why did he lie about 1st round picks and stuff. He did the same things with Beck and we came in to the season just to wiund up with Grossman as the QB. Kirk is no better no worse than Grossman. Mediocre talent level. You can see talent level from his 3 starts.

I think Kirk has done a great job so far. The last drive of the game, our players had no idea where they should be. He put us in position to win both games. Furthermore, if these games tell you Kirk is not so good then RG3-11 should just be cut. He has shown that he is worse than Rex. In my opinion, we still have to wait and see about RG3, but he has shown himself to be very inept at running an NFL offense so far. I hope we get a new coach that is a good groomer of QB's to come in and teach RG3 and Kirk and let the best man be our franchise QB.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by T.O.Killa

I think Kirk has done a great job so far. The last drive of the game, our players had no idea where they should be. He put us in position to win both games. Furthermore, if these games tell you Kirk is not so good then RG3-11 should just be cut. He has shown that he is worse than Rex. In my opinion, we still have to wait and see about RG3, but he has shown himself to be very inept at running an NFL offense so far. I hope we get a new coach that is a good groomer of QB's to come in and teach RG3 and Kirk and let the best man be our franchise QB.

I agree. Have them compete. Start the winner. Trade the loser. Then there's no potential QB controversy to distract the team and we've forward. Only keep them both if neither sets themselves apart from the other in camp.

[Gary84Clark]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

I agree. Have them compete. Start the winner. Trade the loser. Then there's no potential QB controversy to distract the team and we've forward. Only keep them both if neither sets themselves apart from the other in camp.

Did you check Kirk's numbers? They are worse than RG3's numbers. Plus Kirk played the worse defenses in the league and still lost. It's the same thing as with Rex he will tease you for a minute but can't win.