Right Tackle and Free Safety

Chico23231 · 03-17-2015, 10:19 AM

Good morning folks, as the dust settles from free agency and as I peruse our roster I see 2 gaping holes at starting spots still on vacant on the team. Right tackle and free safety positions have been severe problems for way too long on this team and with the remaining market available its wont be solved be this method.

The draft is thin at Free, but at Tackle there are many versatile players available in the college ranks, but none seem talented enough for a top 5 pick.

I would still keep my eye on Goldson in Tampa to see if he will be released. While Im not a huge fan, he is talented enough to start and be productive in this league on a 1 year deal. Stevie Brown has connections here, he is another I would at least bring in to gauge interest.

Right Tackle, Barksdale is still available and probably the most talented free agent left. Where above I would settle for Goldson as talented enough to still be productive, I dont see it in Barksdale with what his price is gonna command. I think we need to spend at least our 2nd round pick on Right Tackle.

Its frustrating for the last 5 years we seem to have the same discussions for these same damn positions. Whats your plan at these starting spots for 2015?

44Deezel · 03-17-2015, 10:26 AM

Sure, an upgrade at Right Tackle is needed, but the 82 Hogs couldn't block for our starting QB. Bad QBs get sacked behind any line.

See Jason Campbell. Constantly under pressure, O-line blamed incessantly. Insert Todd Collins (not exactly a future hall of famer) and the pressure miraculously goes away.

The Line will play better when there's a capable QB behind them.

Chico23231 · 03-17-2015, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by 44Deezel

Sure, an upgrade at Right Tackle is needed, but the 82 Hogs couldn't block for our starting QB. Bad QBs get sacked behind any line.

See Jason Campbell. Constantly under pressure, O-line blamed incessantly. Insert Todd Collins (not exactly a future hall of famer) and the pressure miraculously goes away.

The Line will play better when there's a capable QB behind them.

But who is your starter, Compton? You bringing back Polumbus?

Lotus · 03-17-2015, 10:48 AM

Personally I am more alarmed that we have no starting QB that we can count on.

SFREDSKIN · 03-17-2015, 10:56 AM

How about a blockibg TE? Sign Housler.

Chico23231 · 03-17-2015, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

How about a blockibg TE? Sign Housler.

Fred tighten up, trying to focus on actual starters, which right now we have a full stable of TEs. And Housler is a pass catching TE, not really known for his blocking.

Hog1 · 03-17-2015, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Lotus

Personally I am more alarmed that we have no starting QB that we can count on.

............Bump

Ruhskins · 03-17-2015, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by 44Deezel

Sure, an upgrade at Right Tackle is needed, but the 82 Hogs couldn't block for our starting QB. Bad QBs get sacked behind any line.

See Jason Campbell. Constantly under pressure, O-line blamed incessantly. Insert Todd Collins (not exactly a future hall of famer) and the pressure miraculously goes away.

The Line will play better when there's a capable QB behind them.

So which capable QB do you suggest we bring? Is there some rookie out there who will miraculously play well behind an average line? Not too many Andrew Lucks out there.

Skins4L · 03-22-2015, 02:04 AM

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Originally Posted by 44Deezel

Sure, an upgrade at Right Tackle is needed, but the 82 Hogs couldn't block for our starting QB. Bad QBs get sacked behind any line.

See Jason Campbell. Constantly under pressure, O-line blamed incessantly. Insert Todd Collins (not exactly a future hall of famer) and the pressure miraculously goes away.

The Line will play better when there's a capable QB behind them.

check out this play. watch how Everson Griffin and Anthony Barr pretend like our Oline is invisible. dude has to make a highlight play just to dump it off on a checkdown? right side is garbage. period. nothing to do with qb.

2014 Top Moments: Griffin III, Helu Escape Vikings

That Guy · 03-22-2015, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Skins4L

check out this play. watch how Everson Griffin and Anthony Barr pretend like our Oline is invisible. dude has to make a highlight play just to dump it off on a checkdown? right side is garbage. period. nothing to do with qb.

2014 Top Moments: Griffin III, Helu Escape Vikings

looks like he ran back too far, beyond where the OL was supposed to set on that play. there was a pocket there, he was just 10 feet behind it.

over the mountain · 03-22-2015, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by That Guy

looks like he ran back too far, beyond where the OL was supposed to set on that play. there was a pocket there, he was just 10 feet behind it.

RG3 immediately took a 3 step drop out of shotgun.

Who knows if the play was designed to be a 3 step drop out of shotgun. i dont. I do know it must be frustrating to be a tackle, you block for a 3-5 step drop perfectly but your QB decided to take a 10 step drop, fans blame you for the sack anyway.

i imagine every D coord just tells his edge rushers to go wide and up the field 10 yards, dont worry the QB will be there.

- it looks like a busted screen play

DYoungJelly · 03-22-2015, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Skins4L

check out this play. watch how Everson Griffin and Anthony Barr pretend like our Oline is invisible. dude has to make a highlight play just to dump it off on a checkdown? right side is garbage. period. nothing to do with qb.

2014 Top Moments: Griffin III, Helu Escape Vikings

RG3 took sacks last season at a historic rate | ProFootballTalk

Yea right. Doesn't have a darn thing to do with our QB huh.

Bangee7 · 03-23-2015, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Skins4L

check out this play. watch how Everson Griffin and Anthony Barr pretend like our Oline is invisible. dude has to make a highlight play just to dump it off on a checkdown? right side is garbage. period. nothing to do with qb.

2014 Top Moments: Griffin III, Helu Escape Vikings

if I'm watching the same play, the RT did OK on that play...Helu was a swinging gate on the other hand. Glad he's gone- he could not block a lick.

RGIII also didn't seem to notice the blitz that was bound to come from the Left side.

to be fair, it looked like Chester (RG) gave up a little too soon and was actually chasing his man into the backfield....ugh!

KI Skins Fan · 03-17-2015, 10:34 AM

My 2015 plan:

FS - Bandaid on 1 year contract. Draft FS in 3rd or 4th Round. Also, have Amerson or Breeland compete for that position if DHall can go at CB.

RT - Draft. Trade down in 1st Round or trade up into mid first round to get one. Our 2nd round pick will be too late to get a starting-quality player. Try Xavier Nixon at RT, as well.

over the mountain · 03-17-2015, 11:22 AM

RT - compton/polumbus

FS - thomas/duke/vet added late after roster trimming

there doesnt seem to be any real starting caliber options at FS and id rather wait another year than force a multi year deal on a player we dont really want.

next year is not a contending year so there is no urgency to force a move.

03-17-2015, 10:19 AM	#1
Chico23231 Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 34,505	Right Tackle and Free Safety Good morning folks, as the dust settles from free agency and as I peruse our roster I see 2 gaping holes at starting spots still on vacant on the team. Right tackle and free safety positions have been severe problems for way too long on this team and with the remaining market available its wont be solved be this method. The draft is thin at Free, but at Tackle there are many versatile players available in the college ranks, but none seem talented enough for a top 5 pick. I would still keep my eye on Goldson in Tampa to see if he will be released. While Im not a huge fan, he is talented enough to start and be productive in this league on a 1 year deal. Stevie Brown has connections here, he is another I would at least bring in to gauge interest. Right Tackle, Barksdale is still available and probably the most talented free agent left. Where above I would settle for Goldson as talented enough to still be productive, I dont see it in Barksdale with what his price is gonna command. I think we need to spend at least our 2nd round pick on Right Tackle. Its frustrating for the last 5 years we seem to have the same discussions for these same damn positions. Whats your plan at these starting spots for 2015? __________________ My pronouns: King/Your ruler He Gets Us

03-17-2015, 10:26 AM	#2
44Deezel The Starter Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Davidsonville Posts: 1,783	Re: Right Tackle and Free Safety Sure, an upgrade at Right Tackle is needed, but the 82 Hogs couldn't block for our starting QB. Bad QBs get sacked behind any line. See Jason Campbell. Constantly under pressure, O-line blamed incessantly. Insert Todd Collins (not exactly a future hall of famer) and the pressure miraculously goes away. The Line will play better when there's a capable QB behind them. __________________ I am a system poster.

03-17-2015, 10:48 AM	#4
Lotus Fire Bruce NOW Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Hattiesburg, MS Posts: 11,434	Re: Right Tackle and Free Safety Personally I am more alarmed that we have no starting QB that we can count on. __________________ Bruce Allen when in charge alone: 4-12 (.250) Bruce Allen's overall Redskins record : 28-52 (.350) Vinny Cerrato's record when in charge alone: 52-65 (.444) Vinny's overall Redskins record: 62-82 (.430) We won more with Vinny

03-17-2015, 10:56 AM	#5
SFREDSKIN Living Legend Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Pacifica, CA Posts: 15,164	Re: Right Tackle and Free Safety How about a blockibg TE? Sign Housler. __________________ Joe Gibbs- The best coach of all time, Lombardi trophy should be renamed Gibbs. Art Monk- Art was like an OL playing WR, doing the dirty work and not getting the glory. Darrell Green- Best DB ever. Purveyor of fine Filth

03-17-2015, 10:34 AM	#14
KI Skins Fan Pro Bowl Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Jacksonville, Forida Posts: 6,398	Re: Right Tackle and Free Safety My 2015 plan: FS - Bandaid on 1 year contract. Draft FS in 3rd or 4th Round. Also, have Amerson or Breeland compete for that position if DHall can go at CB. RT - Draft. Trade down in 1st Round or trade up into mid first round to get one. Our 2nd round pick will be too late to get a starting-quality player. Try Xavier Nixon at RT, as well. __________________ I'm a big Caitlin Clark fan!

03-17-2015, 11:22 AM	#15
over the mountain Playmaker Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: close to the edge Posts: 4,926	Re: Right Tackle and Free Safety RT - compton/polumbus FS - thomas/duke/vet added late after roster trimming there doesnt seem to be any real starting caliber options at FS and id rather wait another year than force a multi year deal on a player we dont really want. next year is not a contending year so there is no urgency to force a move.

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