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Old 01-01-2017, 09:44 PM   #1
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Off season begins.

A lot of holes have to be filled this spring /summer.

Positives for the year.

Kirk cousins proved that he is a good QB and not a 1 hit wonder like many thought he would be. Is he a top 5 QB? NO but he can be a top 10 passer.

OL for the most part was good all yr.

Offense put up a ton of yards and points, pretty fun too watch most games.

Josh Norman was worth the money.

Kerrigan was solid like usual. Not great

Mason Foster has a lot of potential.

Baker is good.

Reed, garcon, crowder, CT, djax, VD. All had great years.

Gruden is a good coach, he's been here 3 years and has 2 winning seasons. I'll take that.


NEGATIVES.

Run Game was bad most of the yr.

Run def was historically bad, we saw it week 1 against deangelo Williams and it never got better.

Pass rush was avg at best, Preston Smith only plays well against bad lines.

Secondary was injured and bad all yr outside of Norman.

Coaching sucked many games, ESP Barry. Our d is so predictable.
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Old 01-01-2017, 09:49 PM   #2
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Re: Off season begins.

I had definitely defended Barry for most of the season but he has WRs running wide open non-stop. We lack talent on the defense, it's true, but I believe we might have had one of the worst third down defenses of all time. That's scheme. Offensively, we'll be fine. I'd like an upgrade at LG, re-sign Cousins, re-sign Garcon and I think we'll be set. People are calling Docston a bust already, but let's see what he has before we say he's the next Malcolm Kelly,.
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Old 01-01-2017, 09:58 PM   #3
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I had definitely defended Barry for most of the season but he has WRs running wide open non-stop. We lack talent on the defense, it's true, but I believe we might have had one of the worst third down defenses of all time. That's scheme. Offensively, we'll be fine. I'd like an upgrade at LG, re-sign Cousins, re-sign Garcon and I think we'll be set. People are calling Docston a bust already, but let's see what he has before we say he's the next Malcolm Kelly,.
Our d lacks major talent so I defend him there but he never ever blitzed and we needed it bad. Today we let eli have all day to throw.
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Old 01-01-2017, 09:51 PM   #4
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Re: Off season begins.

Very interested to see the starting 11 week 1 next year on defense. We need a bunch of new starters.

Also interested to see if SM franchises Cousins, signs him to something around 25 million, haggles him down to somewhere around 20 million, or let's him walk. I may be way off, but I think there's a good chance he actually let's him leave.
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You don't let him walk for nothing, if he doesn't agree to 20 million or less you tag him and some teams will want him and get picks for him.1
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Old 01-01-2017, 09:53 PM   #6
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Re: Off season begins.

I'm already reading draft information.
Looks like we will pick around the 17th spot.
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Old 01-01-2017, 10:10 PM   #7
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I'm already reading draft information.
Looks like we will pick around the 17th spot.
They have 9 picks

Jets 4th round

New Orleans 5th round

* no Redskin pick in the 5th (traded for Carrier)

Texans 6th round pick


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Old 01-01-2017, 09:56 PM   #8
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Re: Off season begins.

Cravens was a bright spot too, he was just hurt a lot, let's hope that isn't something he always has issues with.

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Yeah, I don't really agree with a lot of holes to fill...back to back winning seasons and we have an identifiable core of talent. We will probably see Barry go..we may see fewell leave if couglin takes a HC job.

I think McC kinda outsmarted himself last offseason. He wanted to stop the run and run the ball better...that was his focus last offseason. That was mostly an utter failure. He needs to do a much better job to see improvements in those areas.

To me, the main story will be getting extensions ready for Chris baker and cousins first. Then garçon Chris Thompson and possibly Trent Murphy.

And I think the next story will be new d coordinator. I'm interested to see a new vision on the defensive side of the ball. I think we have to rebuild the front seven...
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Yeah, I don't really agree with a lot of holes to fill...back to back winning seasons and we have an identifiable core of talent. We will probably see Barry go..we may see fewell leave if couglin takes a HC job.

I think McC kinda outsmarted himself last offseason. He wanted to stop the run and run the ball better...that was his focus last offseason. That was mostly an utter failure. He needs to do a much better job to see improvements in those areas.

To me, the main story will be getting extensions ready for Chris baker and cousins first. Then garçon Chris Thompson and possibly Trent Murphy.

And I think the next story will be new d coordinator. I'm interested to see a new vision on the defensive side of the ball. I think we have to rebuild the front seven...
DT
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Are all big needs but we have money to spend so that helps
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Old 01-01-2017, 10:19 PM   #11
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DT
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Are all big needs but we have money to spend so that helps
Cravens is starting strong safety next year...his natural position. I'd like us to draft a mid round pick at free safety.

If you spend money, you probably invest it on the dline. And I would also sign a left guard...several real nice options in free agency.
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The strength of this team is the offense yet We could not score 14 points in a playoff game?? how many would have bet huge money on the skins if told Giants would only score 13 points. The offense was the failure ..we knew the D was flawed..trouble is this offense is going to lose DJAX ..so are we to pay cousins 25 million to have this type of results? Look if we got beat today 31-30 i would say we put up enough to win..but 10 points?? I gotta believe there are a lot of average QB's That could do what cousins did today..YES he has played lights out at times but his red zone skills are not very good and he can't seem to break out of the BIG GAME screw ups..just not overly confidence that we need to hook the team up with him long term..maybe franchise one more year? Anybody think That any of the coaches are to blame? How the heck can this team continue to come out flat in big games. at this point i really don't see a huge light at the end of tunnel..I see a average head coach with a bad defense a huge decision to be made at QB and play calling/scheme very suspect..yes we are better than we were a few years ago BUT at some point we gotta take the next big step I just hope it is forward.
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The strength of this team is the offense yet We could not score 14 points in a playoff game?? how many would have bet huge money on the skins if told Giants would only score 13 points. The offense was the failure ..we knew the D was flawed..trouble is this offense is going to lose DJAX ..so are we to pay cousins 25 million to have this type of results? Look if we got beat today 31-30 i would say we put up enough to win..but 10 points?? I gotta believe there are a lot of average QB's That could do what cousins did today..YES he has played lights out at times but his red zone skills are not very good and he can't seem to break out of the BIG GAME screw ups..just not overly confidence that we need to hook the team up with him long term..maybe franchise one more year? Anybody think That any of the coaches are to blame? How the heck can this team continue to come out flat in big games. at this point i really don't see a huge light at the end of tunnel..I see a average head coach with a bad defense a huge decision to be made at QB and play calling/scheme very suspect..yes we are better than we were a few years ago BUT at some point we gotta take the next big step I just hope it is forward.
Kirk has proven he's a good QB, 2 years means no flukes. Today he was not very good, the last INT looked horrible on him. Let's hope he continues to learn and get better.
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Reportedly they have $63 million in cap room before any cuts. D Hall, Kory L, Paul, etc. would add 10+ million. There are only a few free agents I want back, KC, Pierre, and Baker at the right price. So, they should have plenty of money for free agents.

They must add about 5 good free agents. S, CB, DL and ? And they need a good draft.... with 9 picks they need more than 3 contributors.

Also, Brian Mitchell made a good point. Are they a 3-4 or a 4-3 team ?.... Kerrigan and P Smith are both tweeners...not 4-3 DEs or 3-4 OLBs. They get most of their stats against the weak teams and do not provide a consistent pass rush
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If we're looking at defense in FA, I want Kawann Short. That's the one big splash I'd do.
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