I Don't Like That - Post Game Thread

sdskinsfan2001 · 10-25-2019, 12:41 AM

Positives: McLaurin and playing on Thursday night. Get that L out of the way early in the week so I don't even have to think about wasting a Sunday on them.

Negatives: Moreau and Norman are so fucking terrible. Starting Case Keenum next Sunday.

mooby · 10-25-2019, 12:55 AM

Immediate thoughts -

Fuck Bruce Allen. Moreau is a JAG, who only gets reps because we had to trade Fuller to get Alex Smith, when we probably could've traded for Keenum on the cheap because the Vikings got Cousins. Norman - it boggles my mind that between him and Collins we have $150 mil tied up between the two and neither are playmakers. Collins makes tackles, but for the money we pay him he needs to be forcing turnovers. Norman, idk if he's playing like this because he's hurt, but if he can't be an effective corner because he's hurt then get his ass out of the game. Two poor FA contracts handed out by this FO, once again reflecting poorly on Bruce.

Haskins - watch this video of his postgame presser and tell me he looks the slightest bit confident that he knows what he's doing. You guys are delusional, thinking that a rookie qb who can't set his feet, needs to rework his throwing motion, can't scan the field, can't diag pre-snap coverage, lacks pocket awareness and probably knows 1/10 of the playbook will get better taking his lumps on the field.

This defense - So we held them to 19 points. Whoop-de-fucking-do. We also gave their punter a night off because he never had to punt. The thing that stands out to me is the glaring lack of a dominant middle linebacker. We haven't had one since Fletcher left, and Fletcher left probably 2 years too late. The defense has so much room for improvement. And I love Dunbar but god damn he can't stay healthy.

BigHairedAristocrat · 10-25-2019, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by mooby

Haskins - watch this video of his postgame presser and tell me he looks the slightest bit confident that he knows what he's doing. You guys are delusional, thinking that a rookie qb who can't set his feet, needs to rework his throwing motion, can't scan the field, can't diag pre-snap coverage, lacks pocket awareness and probably knows 1/10 of the playbook will get better taking his lumps on the field.

His demeanor in the post-game press conference was absolutely shocking. Someone who talks like that behind a podium does not deserve to even be a backup QB in this league. If he is like this in front of the cameras, how bad is he when no one is watching and he's just around the other players and coaches. This completely jives with all the reports about how he wasn't putting the work in, not showing interest in meetings, not paying attention, not studying or preparing.

I'm not going to definitively say that Haskins will be a good starting QB.... but the changes of it ever happening are less than 1%. He has displayed a complete lack of confidence and leadership.

I'm not even remotely interested in seeing Haskins play this year or next. If we have a top 3 pick, we need to spend it on a QB.

Back2RFK · 10-25-2019, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

His demeanor in the post-game press conference was absolutely shocking. Someone who talks like that behind a podium does not deserve to even be a backup QB in this league. If he is like this in front of the cameras, how bad is he when no one is watching and he's just around the other players and coaches. This completely jives with all the reports about how he wasn't putting the work in, not showing interest in meetings, not paying attention, not studying or preparing.

I'm not going to definitively say that Haskins will be a good starting QB.... but the changes of it ever happening are less than 1%. He has displayed a complete lack of confidence and leadership.

I'm not even remotely interested in seeing Haskins play this year or next. If we have a top 3 pick, we need to spend it on a QB.

I thought maybe it was me but when he is on the sidelines he seems to not be very interested in whats going on. You would think he would be standing up listening to whats being done and following the plays. If I'm correct I have seen back ups wearing head phones following what is going on between everyone.

BTW what happen to Keenum? I went out fishing durn half time and got back in the house just as we punted the ball away at the beginning of the 2nd half.

MTK · 10-25-2019, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Back2RFK

I thought maybe it was me but when he is on the sidelines he seems to not be very interested in whats going on. You would think he would be standing up listening to whats being done and following the plays. If I'm correct I have seen back ups wearing head phones following what is going on between everyone.

BTW what happen to Keenum? I went out fishing durn half time and got back in the house just as we punted the ball away at the beginning of the 2nd half.

He was wearing an ear piece during the game last night.

Let's not make sweeping conclusions based on what you see in a 2 second clip of him on the sideline during the game.

skinsfan69 · 10-25-2019, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by MTK

He was wearing an ear piece during the game last night.

Let's not make sweeping conclusions based on what you see in a 2 second clip of him on the sideline during the game.

Perception might as well be reality.

punch it in · 10-25-2019, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by MTK

He was wearing an ear piece during the game last night.

Let's not make sweeping conclusions based on what you see in a 2 second clip of him on the sideline during the game.

I cannot get the int to a wide open McLaurin out of my head though. The demeanor is probably disappointment which is actually good. Im sure he wants to succeed obviously. But man i could have made that pass. I want to think I’m overreacting but almost any other quarterback ever including rookies makes that pass. He also missed McLaurin streaking down the field for a sure td n checked down. I know he is inexperienced but he did play a full season at OSU for God’s sake. He shouldn’t be missing that bad or be that nervous at all really. He will start next week cus Keenum aint gonna. Ill keep my hopes up but what I saw last night is worrying.

Chico23231 · 10-25-2019, 08:13 AM

You hold a hot offense to 19 at home...defense did it’s job.

Situational football strategy with the offense is terrible. Red zone offense was terrible.

Haskins comes in with a clean pocket, wide open wr with a basic, easy throw and can’t even make it. Instead throws an interception. I have no faith in him or this organization in coaching him. So far he’s been a terrible draft pick

OmahaRedskins · 10-25-2019, 08:40 AM

Both first round picks are a bust

Chico23231 · 10-25-2019, 09:02 AM

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Both first round picks are a bust

Sweat doing nothing and Preston Smith is now a pro bowler. Our coaching staff is easily the worst in the league, paired with garbage GM...fuck this team and everyone involved in the franchise. Imo we need to fire everyone...and rebuild the franchise and it’s structure.

Chico23231 · 10-25-2019, 09:22 AM

9 straight quarters without a TD...the offense has gotten worse since Jay has left. So Kevin OConnell isn't impressing

BaltimoreSkins · 10-25-2019, 09:47 AM

Our offense is too bad to be this conservative. I really hope that Callahan and O'Connell research a concept called the forward pass. In terms of defense giving up 19 points isn't really something to be too happy about. The Vikings played conservatively on offense and we still couldn't stop them. Every drive of theirs minus the two minute warning before the half was intended to run time off the clock and not put players in jeopardy by being aggressive.

The last two games the defense has given up a total of 28 points, which is great compared to where they were at the beginning of the year, but both of the teams we played knew how to do just enough to win and play conservatively.

HTTR · 10-25-2019, 10:01 AM

I think what pains me most is that we’re down to hating on players, especially young ones. Some of them may be true NFL busts, but we’ll never know in this organization, because there is no player development and no coaching.

mooby · 10-25-2019, 10:51 AM

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I think what pains me most is that we’re down to hating on players, especially young ones. Some of them may be true NFL busts, but we’ll never know in this organization, because there is no player development and no coaching.

+1

The old rule was give it 3 years to judge a draft pick, for good reason. Not everybody can walk into the league and dominate from day one.

Nobody gets that luxury around here, because guys want to see instant results to figure out if we need to get a replacement next year.

PorkSkins · 10-25-2019, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by HTTR

I think what pains me most is that we’re down to hating on players, especially young ones. Some of them may be true NFL busts, but we’ll never know in this organization, because there is no player development and no coaching.

I do agree with you on this take. I've stated on numerous occasions that I'm all about giving Haskins (and even Sweat) time to mature. My point is I believe Haskins may need to sit the remainder of the season because there seem to be quite a few holes in his game and he could potentially pick up (or continue) bad habits if he sees too much time on the field this season.

I still believe any rookie deserves, at the least, 3 years before making a judgement on the player.

10-25-2019, 12:41 AM	#1
sdskinsfan2001 Living Legend Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Hanahan, South Carolina Age: 41 Posts: 20,259	I Don't Like That - Post Game Thread Positives: McLaurin and playing on Thursday night. Get that L out of the way early in the week so I don't even have to think about wasting a Sunday on them. Negatives: Moreau and Norman are so fucking terrible. Starting Case Keenum next Sunday. __________________ "You can be my wingman anytime." "Bulls**t. You can be mine."

10-25-2019, 12:55 AM	#2
mooby Hug Anne Spyder Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 20,477	Re: I Don't Like That - Post Game Thread Immediate thoughts - Fuck Bruce Allen. Moreau is a JAG, who only gets reps because we had to trade Fuller to get Alex Smith, when we probably could've traded for Keenum on the cheap because the Vikings got Cousins. Norman - it boggles my mind that between him and Collins we have $150 mil tied up between the two and neither are playmakers. Collins makes tackles, but for the money we pay him he needs to be forcing turnovers. Norman, idk if he's playing like this because he's hurt, but if he can't be an effective corner because he's hurt then get his ass out of the game. Two poor FA contracts handed out by this FO, once again reflecting poorly on Bruce. Haskins - watch this video of his postgame presser and tell me he looks the slightest bit confident that he knows what he's doing. You guys are delusional, thinking that a rookie qb who can't set his feet, needs to rework his throwing motion, can't scan the field, can't diag pre-snap coverage, lacks pocket awareness and probably knows 1/10 of the playbook will get better taking his lumps on the field. This defense - So we held them to 19 points. Whoop-de-fucking-do. We also gave their punter a night off because he never had to punt. The thing that stands out to me is the glaring lack of a dominant middle linebacker. We haven't had one since Fletcher left, and Fletcher left probably 2 years too late. The defense has so much room for improvement. And I love Dunbar but god damn he can't stay healthy.

10-25-2019, 08:13 AM	#8
Chico23231 Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 34,612	Re: I Don't Like That - Post Game Thread You hold a hot offense to 19 at home...defense did it’s job. Situational football strategy with the offense is terrible. Red zone offense was terrible. Haskins comes in with a clean pocket, wide open wr with a basic, easy throw and can’t even make it. Instead throws an interception. I have no faith in him or this organization in coaching him. So far he’s been a terrible draft pick __________________ My pronouns: King/Your ruler He Gets Us

10-25-2019, 08:40 AM	#9
OmahaRedskins Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 822	Re: I Don't Like That - Post Game Thread Both first round picks are a bust

10-25-2019, 09:22 AM	#11
Chico23231 Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 34,612	Re: I Don't Like That - Post Game Thread 9 straight quarters without a TD...the offense has gotten worse since Jay has left. So Kevin OConnell isn't impressing __________________ My pronouns: King/Your ruler He Gets Us

10-25-2019, 09:47 AM	#12
BaltimoreSkins Pro Bowl Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Parkton, MD Posts: 5,760	Re: I Don't Like That - Post Game Thread Our offense is too bad to be this conservative. I really hope that Callahan and O'Connell research a concept called the forward pass. In terms of defense giving up 19 points isn't really something to be too happy about. The Vikings played conservatively on offense and we still couldn't stop them. Every drive of theirs minus the two minute warning before the half was intended to run time off the clock and not put players in jeopardy by being aggressive. The last two games the defense has given up a total of 28 points, which is great compared to where they were at the beginning of the year, but both of the teams we played knew how to do just enough to win and play conservatively.

10-25-2019, 10:01 AM	#13
HTTR Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 620	Re: I Don't Like That - Post Game Thread I think what pains me most is that we’re down to hating on players, especially young ones. Some of them may be true NFL busts, but we’ll never know in this organization, because there is no player development and no coaching. __________________ ____________________________________________ "There's the snap, hand to Riggins . . . he's gone, he's gone!"

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