Coronavirus (sports edition) thread

[mooby]

I'm surprised we don't already have a separate thread for this, but here we are. I'll lead with this piece of news, we are 1 of 4 teams left that have under 50% of the roster vaccinated.

https://apnews.com/article/sports-fo...0dc6c20b787c79

Guess bringing in that Harvard educated vaccine specialist didn't help.

[EdmundDorf]

Seems odd to me that of a 90 man roster and an NFL threshold of 75%, that is 22 players who dont need to be vaccinated to pass the threshold or basically the entire starting lineup. So with less than 50% vaccinated, even if the entire starting lineup aren't vaccinated there is still a significant number of second stringers who haven't gotten the vaccination yet. Given the amount of competition at each position, vaccine status will be an issue in the final cuts , however much the NFL/PA say it wont be. I didn't think this would be an issue until they cut down to the final 53.

[Chico23231]

This is a terrible look and we could be really affected us from a competitive standpoint.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

This is a terrible look and we could be really affected us from a competitive standpoint.

This kinda bothers me too. Guys will take years off their life doing anything to gain an edge from a competitive standpoint, but they won't take a shot.

[MTK]

Not a good look at all. It's going to be really pathetic if this costs us even 1 game.

[MTK]

And this gives the media something to feed on during camp. You can bet it's going to be a constant topic of conversation.

[Chico23231]

Cole Beasley and Montez Sweat group think > Harvard Doctor brought in by team to talk vaccine

Football players not the smartest

[MTK]

Too many people out there getting their "facts" from Facebook memes. What a toxic dump FB has become.

[mooby]

It's a perfect storm of distrust. Not just conservatives that distrust the government/don't believe in COVID, but minorities too have a well-deserved reason to distrust the gov't. It's similar at my job, basically every conservative here has no intention of being vaccinated and minorities are the same way. Not saying that's the case here but that's my perception from the outside looking in.

Shame as you would think Ron's health would make him more susceptible and they would do it for him.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by mooby

It's a perfect storm of distrust. Not just conservatives that distrust the government/don't believe in COVID, but minorities too have a well-deserved reason to distrust the gov't. It's similar at my job, basically every conservative here has no intention of being vaccinated and minorities are the same way. Not saying that's the case here but that's my perception from the outside looking in.

Shame as you would think Ron's health would make him more susceptible and they would do it for him.

“Well deserved distrust” is as much as bullshit as any other…especially ages 40 and below.

Stop making excuses, it’s absolute nonsensical as minorities can’t get IDs for voting

[mooby]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

“Well deserved distrust” is as much as bullshit as any other…especially ages 40 and below.

Stop making excuses, it’s absolute nonsensical as minorities can’t get IDs for voting

This is not the starter that you think it is. Nobody is saying you should be able to vote without having to present any form of ID. What people are saying is laws that are presented as "for the benefit of maintaining election integrity" when in reality it's "we can't win the popular vote so we need to make it more difficult for dem votes to be counted" are bs.

If you want to respond take it to the appropriate forum. Not trying to jack this thread up.

Minorities don't trust the government dating back to the last 100 years because the government has enacted laws that discriminated against them in that time. If you think that doesn't play a factor idk what to tell you.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

“Well deserved distrust” is as much as bullshit as any other…especially ages 40 and below.

Stop making excuses, it’s absolute nonsensical as minorities can’t get IDs for voting

Idk Chico. Minorities have been shit on somewhat over the years. Id say they have more of a reason to not trust the government.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Idk Chico. Minorities have been shit on somewhat over the years. Id say they have more of a reason to not trust the government.

It’s actually not. This is more white progressives speaking for minorities ala voter id fake excuse of poc “don’t have the ability to get ids” which have been repeated over and over. This is misinformation and a convenient excuse for Democratic run cities and federal government to explain their failures in unvaccinated numbers with the groups. The main reasons minority groups aren’t getting vaccinated are literally inline with white and other ethic groups. In Richmond the mayor said the main reason given on survey information within the city just a month or two ago was “busy, life got in the way” with concerns about side effects second. When you actually break down the data, poor folks…white and black..align but you know the media isn’t gonna push the truth…they rather divide people with racial, political false narratives. That sells.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

It’s actually not. This is more white progressives speaking for minorities ala voter id fake excuse of poc “don’t have the ability to get ids” which have been repeated over and over. This is misinformation and a convenient excuse for Democratic run cities and federal government to explain their failures in unvaccinated numbers with the groups. The main reasons minority groups aren’t getting vaccinated are literally inline with white and other ethic groups. In Richmond the mayor said the main reason given on survey information within the city just a month or two ago was “busy, life got in the way” with concerns about side effects second. When you actually break down the data, poor folks…white and black..align but you know the media isn’t gonna push the truth…they rather divide people with racial, political false narratives. That sells.

This is that dumb shit you're always on, stop drinking the Faux News kool-aid Chico. Nobody is saying minorities deliberately don't want/don't have the ability to get ID's or any of that other dumb shit.

I literally work in a shop where minorities make up a strong percentage of my coworkers. Asian, Black, Latino. They have all said at various points they don't believe COVID is dangerous (the flu is more dangerous is a very common line) and they don't trust the government. Now am I saying that my generalizations should be applied to the majority of the population? No. But I see the same shit on FB and when that seems to be the overwhelming opinion for people who haven't gotten vaccinated I tend to believe that more than "I haven't had the time." The vaccine has been publicly available for months now, there is no shortage anywhere and no more lines to wait in. That line works during the first couple months when lines were outrageous, but you can't keep repeating it for months on end especially when you can be in and out in under an hour.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

“Well deserved distrust” is as much as bullshit as any other…especially ages 40 and below.

Stop making excuses, it’s absolute nonsensical as minorities can’t get IDs for voting

Educate yourself. In the 1930s the government enrolled only African Americans in a study, without telling them it was a study, and promised them free health care in exchange. Those who had syphilis were eligible. They studied the long term effects of the disease, and despite the fact that a treatment was available, it was never given. They studied these people for 40 years to see what would happen.

That's human experimentation. It's one thing if you're signing up for a clinical trial for a cancer drug, knowing that it may not work, and they explain your chances and the theory and exactly what they'll be giving to you... and then they actually give you exactly what they say they would give you.

It's entirely different to conduct trials like this without telling people the deal.

There are very valid, deep-seated trust issues between the minority communities and the medical establishment.