WP Article March 31- Gardner Trade Speculation

raleighskinsfan · 04-01-2004, 10:22 AM

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2004Mar31.html

He mentions Baltimore as a possible trade partner for Gardner-
Do they have anyone we think they would let go that would fill one of our needs on the D-Line?
Do you guys think we should keep Gardner? What's the lowest round draft pick you think we should accept if we do, if not a player?

Jamaican'Skin · 04-01-2004, 10:28 AM

I don't think RG is worth more than a 4th or 5th to other teams right now. This is impossible I know, but what if we got Ed Reed for him?

RTerps2002 · 04-01-2004, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Jamaican'Skin

I don't think RG is worth more than a 4th or 5th to other teams right now. This is impossible I know, but what if we got Ed Reed for him?

Stay off the crack!

BleedBurgundy · 04-01-2004, 10:30 AM

I think we have to trade him. We have too many needs to horde receivers. I'd take nothing lower than a third rounder.

JoeRedskin · 04-01-2004, 10:31 AM

Quite simply, we should trade Gardner (hee hee, just yanking your chain RSF).

Kidding aside, I think we are loaded at WR. As long as Gibbs is comfortable, AND we can get a 2nd OR a good starting quality DL, then we should trade Gardner. Nothing against the guy, I like him but he is probably the only one we have to trade that gets us any kind of quality.

I don't think we should trade just to trade so, unless we get a player we can plug into the DL now or have someone in mind in the 2nd round who we believe will start immediately , I am not sure we should trade just to pick up a draft pick.

I wouldn't be surprised if RG is part of some type of package deal in which Redskins move around in the first (maybe moving down a notch or two, picking up a later first pick, and getting Tommy Harris or Udzechi in addition to KW II OR Taylor).

SkinsRock · 04-01-2004, 10:52 AM

I wouldn't be at all surprised to see him head up I-95 to B-more. They are desperate for a solid #1/#2 receiver, and he would fit in well. I think they will try to get a 2nd, but end up settling for a 3rd rounder. The Skins should not offer anything though....let teams come to them. It seems they are doing that by saying they have no intention of trading him...I remember similar things being said about Trotter, B Johnson, and Bailey...

raleighskinsfan · 04-01-2004, 10:37 AM

I hear you on that one JoeR. Would not surprise me at all to see him becoming a part of some draft day deal to help us pick up extra picks. I don't know what they're thinking exactly, but I just doubt we'll stay this loaded at WR with holes elsewhere, as BleedB said....
Looking at Baltimore's depth chart, I don't see them helping us with any of their current players, as I don't think they'd give up anyone we'd want, so maybe a 2nd rounder???

raleighskinsfan · 04-01-2004, 10:41 AM

He's a jamaicanskin- I don't think it's crack he's smokin'

offiss · 04-01-2004, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by raleighskinsfan

He's a jamaicanskin- I don't think it's crack he's smokin'

offiss · 04-01-2004, 05:24 PM

I would send gardner and thrash to baltimore, jacob's may not be proven but gardner is, westbrook the II.

Dave Butz Baby! · 04-01-2004, 05:34 PM

I don't think Gardner is exactly Westbrook, Part Deux. He hasn't taken any cheap shots at any running backs...

Yet.

But seriously, I don't have any/many problems with Gardner. He sure doesn't have the Westbrook atitude! If he stays, then fine, because Gibbs will only keep him if he's doing his part. But if we can get good value for him, trade away.

offiss · 04-01-2004, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave Butz Baby!

I don't think Gardner is exactly Westbrook, Part Deux. He hasn't taken any cheap shots at any running backs...

Yet.

But seriously, I don't have any/many problems with Gardner. He sure doesn't have the Westbrook atitude! If he stays, then fine, because Gibbs will only keep him if he's doing his part. But if we can get good value for him, trade away.

I really didn't mean it from an attitude perspective ,more so his stupidity on the field, as well as a failure to ever utilize all the talent he has.

Defensewins · 04-01-2004, 10:45 AM

If you guys are desperate to trade someone of value just so we can get draft picks, how about the beloved Patrick Ramsey. I know we could get a first round pick for him. He is only a back up.

JoeRedskin · 04-01-2004, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Defensewins

If you guys are desperate to trade someone of value just so we can get draft picks, how about the beloved Patrick Ramsey. I know we could get a first round pick for him. He is only a back up.

Well, Defense, that's kinda my point. We shouldn't trade him just to trade him, BUT, if we can get a starting quality D-Lineman (where we have no depth), or, if we can package him to get a pick which would give us a blue - chip prospect, THEN trading RG - a good but not indespensible WR (a position of depth) - makes sense.

Trading Ramsay (qb of the future) may guarrantee a first rounder but destroys the depth at the games most important position.

We got tons of No. 2 WR's. We only got one "qb of the future".

MTK · 04-01-2004, 10:49 AM

I think a 3rd is the best we can hope for, anything better would be pure gravy.

I wouldn't trade him unless we can get at least a 3rd.

As for trading Ramsey, I don't see it happening. Why? Quite simply, depth.

04-01-2004, 05:34 PM	#11
Dave Butz Baby! Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Reston, VA Age: 54 Posts: 450	I don't think Gardner is exactly Westbrook, Part Deux. He hasn't taken any cheap shots at any running backs... Yet. But seriously, I don't have any/many problems with Gardner. He sure doesn't have the Westbrook atitude! If he stays, then fine, because Gibbs will only keep him if he's doing his part. But if we can get good value for him, trade away. __________________ Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.

04-01-2004, 10:22 AM	#1
raleighskinsfan Camp Scrub Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 62	WP Article Today- Gardner Trade Speculation http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2004Mar31.html He mentions Baltimore as a possible trade partner for Gardner- Do they have anyone we think they would let go that would fill one of our needs on the D-Line? Do you guys think we should keep Gardner? What's the lowest round draft pick you think we should accept if we do, if not a player?

04-01-2004, 10:28 AM	#2
Jamaican'Skin The Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Kingston, Jamaica Age: 38 Posts: 2,418	I don't think RG is worth more than a 4th or 5th to other teams right now. This is impossible I know, but what if we got Ed Reed for him?

04-01-2004, 10:30 AM	#4
BleedBurgundy Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 4,471	I think we have to trade him. We have too many needs to horde receivers. I'd take nothing lower than a third rounder.

04-01-2004, 10:31 AM	#5
JoeRedskin Contains football related knowledge Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Second Star On The Right Age: 62 Posts: 10,401	Quite simply, we should trade Gardner (hee hee, just yanking your chain RSF). Kidding aside, I think we are loaded at WR. As long as Gibbs is comfortable, AND we can get a 2nd OR a good starting quality DL, then we should trade Gardner. Nothing against the guy, I like him but he is probably the only one we have to trade that gets us any kind of quality. I don't think we should trade just to trade so, unless we get a player we can plug into the DL now or have someone in mind in the 2nd round who we believe will start immediately , I am not sure we should trade just to pick up a draft pick. I wouldn't be surprised if RG is part of some type of package deal in which Redskins move around in the first (maybe moving down a notch or two, picking up a later first pick, and getting Tommy Harris or Udzechi in addition to KW II OR Taylor).

04-01-2004, 10:52 AM	#6
SkinsRock Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Crofton, MD Age: 55 Posts: 907	I wouldn't be at all surprised to see him head up I-95 to B-more. They are desperate for a solid #1/#2 receiver, and he would fit in well. I think they will try to get a 2nd, but end up settling for a 3rd rounder. The Skins should not offer anything though....let teams come to them. It seems they are doing that by saying they have no intention of trading him...I remember similar things being said about Trotter, B Johnson, and Bailey...

04-01-2004, 10:37 AM	#7
raleighskinsfan Camp Scrub Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 62	I hear you on that one JoeR. Would not surprise me at all to see him becoming a part of some draft day deal to help us pick up extra picks. I don't know what they're thinking exactly, but I just doubt we'll stay this loaded at WR with holes elsewhere, as BleedB said.... Looking at Baltimore's depth chart, I don't see them helping us with any of their current players, as I don't think they'd give up anyone we'd want, so maybe a 2nd rounder???

04-01-2004, 10:41 AM	#8
raleighskinsfan Camp Scrub Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 62	He's a jamaicanskin- I don't think it's crack he's smokin'

04-01-2004, 05:24 PM	#10
offiss Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: sparta, new jersey [ northern jersey ] Age: 60 Posts: 3,097	I would send gardner and thrash to baltimore, jacob's may not be proven but gardner is, westbrook the II.

04-01-2004, 10:45 AM	#13
Defensewins Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 3,749	If you guys are desperate to trade someone of value just so we can get draft picks, how about the beloved Patrick Ramsey. I know we could get a first round pick for him. He is only a back up.

04-01-2004, 10:49 AM	#15
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,518	I think a 3rd is the best we can hope for, anything better would be pure gravy. I wouldn't trade him unless we can get at least a 3rd. As for trading Ramsey, I don't see it happening. Why? Quite simply, depth.

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