Thoughts on the game

JWsleep · 08-20-2005, 02:09 AM

I didn't see it--I listened to it over the internet (Cinncy announcers). Seemed like Ramsey really went all out to hit the deep throws, and he finally connected on a few, which is good news. But the INTs were pretty terrible, and the one from the 13 took points off the board. THat's exactly what we did last year, and it killed us. We cannot keep losing the TO battle--no team can do well with a negative TO ratio.

Seemed like Brunnell does well in scramble/hurry-up mode, though he didn't get much help from his receivers. BUt he couldn't hit the TD down close, and got bailed out by a pass interference call. Nemo sounded like he showed some real power at times, though the fumble at the end really hurt. The battle between him and rock is a tough one.

Patten sounds like the real deal--he made some great catches to get the offense going. 3 catches for 109 yards. Nice stat. WIsh Moss had been able to get into the endzone on Ramsey's last drive--then he'd have 2 TD passes, and I think I'd feel a lot better. Getting three instead of seven there was disapointing. WHere was Cooley in all this?

The first team D dominated Cinncy. They did not move the ball until the second-stringers got in there. BUt then they really went to town--I wonder if Williams went back into his "evaluation" mode at that point. Still, Rodgers had an early impact--the TD play he got burned, but in the first-team D he played his role, including having some nice hits. Washington sounded like he was everywhere on D. Couldn't tell how Marshall did, but early on the D was kicking ass. Nice to have Daniels and Griffths out there together as well.

Nemo scored the TD and picked up a big third-down short yardage play. Rock had some big gainers, but got stuffed on a 4th down play.

I feel pretty good about it, but we can't keep turning it over. That's killing us. My guess is that most of Ramsey's problems are that he's really pressing right now. But he cannot throw INTs like that in Gibbs offense. Gibbs will not stand for it, IMO.

Now, why didn't Campbell play? Wonder if Gibbs is trying to see if Brunnell really has it? I didn't find him that impressive, but there were some drops. Hard to tell with the 2-3 stringers in there.

Wonder what y'all thought?

Big C · 08-20-2005, 02:59 AM

im prety d runk dude

BigSKINBauer · 08-20-2005, 03:15 AM

i don't hold a bias against brunnel now. If he can win and ramsey can't i will take the one that can win. But tonight i saw ramsey throw nice passes, but then again make poor decisions, i think that he looked more comfortable but guys, everyone said just throw down field, just please throw down field, for the love of football and all of its fans and all of its history throw the damn ball downfield. Why? because that will open up the run. our calls were answered and gibbs made strides tonight that no one here could have predicted after seeing the game last week. We now know that we can bomb that shit down field if we need to make the opposing D to back off. This means a garanteed 1500 yards for portis and a posibility for much more in my opinion. We can throw deep, that is great and now we can run. Nothing to worry about, only thing is that ramsey needs to get it in the right place every time he throws it b/c those INTs were rediculous.
Defensively we did good on first teams
Nemo did very well but did fumble
Antonio brown did better this week on returns and most ended near the 30 which is pretty good.
David patten gets my player of the game, 110 on 3 passes. THat is rediculous. and there wasn't a bomb of 70 yards, it was a consistant 30 yards or so for every play.

offiss · 08-20-2005, 05:25 AM

I just saw some highlights, bottom line I would really like to know what Ramsey is looking at or thinking on those INT's? I don't get it, what is the guy looking at? the defenders had position the whole way and he throws right to them. My thought all along is that he just need's some stability, and prtection before he really step's up, but those 2 INT's have me scratching my head, they were very disheartning to say the least.

That Guy · 08-20-2005, 08:27 AM

one int was a disgustingly bad decision by ramsey, the other was an overthrow that could have hit moss, but the window was so small that i'd call it a pretty bad decision too.

rock's failing on 4th and 2 was the o-lines fault, rock still looks good though, nemo did too beside the fumble... hell, bessides the ints ramsey looked good too :P 2 passes into tight spaces, completionss of 25(td), 30, 33, 46 yards... his feet weren't doing the happy dance like last game and he didn't stare down receivers (that i noticed, on the td he looked off thrash to open him up... good play). The stare own thing is something ramsey's typically been bad at throughout his short career.

the bomb tossed on rodgers happened because he was exhausted (and it was very obvious)... now that he'll be doing full conditioning and practices that shouldn't happen again.

I'm convinced we're 4 deep at RB... I see no problems with our game there, oline has looked better, rbs have looked really good (until combs comes in... that guy has to go. He dropped a massive turd last week and followed it up with another bad showing). Hopefully we can keep both of them.

Boschetti is our 4th DT, I don't think there's really much of a competition there anymore...

no real 1st team penalties... wilds looked good and better than rufus brown or AJ have so far, I think he'll be a good #4. ST also went man coverage on a top3 WR again and won... maybe he could be a cb in emergencies since we have more starters at safety. I rather have taylor, clark, bowen/preilou then AJ, taylor, clark

brown is a GOOD returner. He didn't break anything big, but no fair catches and always got above average yardage. meanwhile our coverage team was solid again; thrash has to be the best gunner ever

We didn't dump off behind the 1st down markers this game, the scheme looked legit, bombs, outside runs, etc... I don't think we have to worry about a repeat of 2004 for now.

overall i think this was a good step up... besides ramsey (on again, off again) everyone looked pretty good (minus some scrubs).

One thing i did mention in the chat was ramsey threw 2.5times per rush (20 to 8) and brunell threw 1.7 per (19 to 11) which helped brunell pass a bit easier early on (5/6 play his first drive were runs and cinci wasn't expecting it). That in no way excuses the ints or anything, just thought it was interesting.

MTK · 08-20-2005, 09:28 AM

Ramsey made some nice throws and some really bad ones.

I still don't think it's anything to panic about. Gibbs was calling mostly pass plays while PR was in there, and Ramsey seemed to be intent on throwing deep, perhaps that was the plan.

I really liked the article by Mike Wise in the WP today, it sums up how I feel very well. I think the fans in general need to chill the hell out.

Some other notes on the game:

Carlos Rogers had some really nice plays but was also toasted for a TD. All in all a typical rookie performance. I'm sure Williams liked the fact he got burned, he got a little welcome to the NFL treatment.

I think we're really going to like Patten and Moss. Patten had a nice catch in traffic and another nice foot dragging grab near the sideline. Once Ramsey and the WRs get a better rapport going watch out.

Antonio Brown has some ankle breaking moves! He's really going to be something special as a returner and help us out with field position.

The defense is a minor concern, we're missing alot of guys and Williams doesn't seem to be running anything too exotic. He seems to be strictly evaluating at this point.

The battle between Rock and Nemo is really heating up. Nemo plowed over a couple of defenders and Rock seemed to have a nice burst getting to the outside. The fumble brought Nemo back down to earth a bit, and that's not necessarily a bad thing.

Brunell looks sharp. His passes have zip and his trademark accuracy seems to be back. It would be interesting to see what he can do with the first team but I think Gibbs needs to stand behind Ramsey.

Overall I was pleased that we were able to hit some big plays with the first teamers in there. Ramsey was up and down, but there are other factors to keep in mind, like a lack of running game, no Portis, etc. I think he's going to be fine once the entire offense comes together. Brunell is an interesting option though... where are all the Brunell haters now?

On a side note, Palmer struggled and was also up and down, I wonder if the Bengals are looking to bench him?

Beemnseven · 08-20-2005, 10:19 AM

Matty, this is Palmer's second year as a starter after watching Kitna in his rookie season. Palmer looked shaky in the first few series against a still depleted Redskin starting defense, but warmed up a bit as the first half continued on. If you're trying to correlate his performance with Ramsey's, you needn't bother. Palmer, while younger with not as much experience as Ramsey, isn't projecting himself as such the way Ramsey still is.

Overall, I think Ramsey had a better game than he did against Carolina, with 9 completions for 190 yards. That's a very nice yards per pass percentage. The problem is that when Ramsey's off, he's WAY off, throwing to guys in opposing jerseys.

At this point in Ramsey's career, I think most of us, including Joe Gibbs expect more than that. Ramsey still hasn't settled down, and it's showing. Somebody opined that Ramsey simply cannot seem to handle pressure. But this is the preseason, when he's basically been awarded the starting job, and he's still playing as if he's a wide-eyed rookie trying to atone for himself on just about every play. That makes him restless, trying to go for the jugular instead of missing open receivers underneath and in the intermediate patterns. On two occasions last night, those exact scenarios played out, and he threw two interceptions that completely took the wind out of the team on their way to certain scores.

I'm not calling for Ramsey to be benched. Just the opposite -- he needs all the playing time he can get. I still say though that we really should see Brunell start against the Steelers next Friday. But I would say that even if Ramsey had a flawless game. Give it to Brunell against the Steeler first teamers, and get Ramsey some confidence while playing against Pittsburgh reserves.

And don't take this observation as "panic". It is what it is -- an observation. But to say that 'everything's fine' and 'all is well' would be stretching. That's all.

SmootSmack · 08-20-2005, 10:24 AM

I don't know that putting Ramsey in as the second stringer is going to give him confidence. It may pad his stats, but I can't imagine he'd feel too relaxed about Brunell starting.

Beemnseven · 08-20-2005, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by TAFKAS

I don't know that putting Ramsey in as the second stringer is going to give him confidence. It may pad his stats, but I can't imagine he'd feel too relaxed about Brunell starting.

Yes, but he, along with just about everyone else still acknowledge that this is just preseason. Every coach wants a chance to evaluate as many players as they can against starters on opposing teams. Your backup quarterback should face a first team starting defense at least once during the exhibition games.

If this fact makes Ramsey nervous, and he takes a Brunell starting nod next week as an ominous sign, then that's not good. Competition should make a pro athelete in the NFL flourish, not cower.

GoSkins! · 08-20-2005, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Beemnseven

If this fact makes Ramsey nervous, and he takes a Brunell starting nod next week as an ominous sign, then that's not good. Competition should make a pro athelete in the NFL flourish, not cower.

Just listened to the Gibbs press conference. Don't think we will see Brunell starting anytime soon. Gibbs thinks the way to fix Ramsey is to make sure he gets more reps.

SUNRA · 08-20-2005, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by TAFKAS

I don't know that putting Ramsey in as the second stringer is going to give him confidence. It may pad his stats, but I can't imagine he'd feel too relaxed about Brunell starting.

As of August 20, 2005. There is no QB controversey in Redskins camp. It is clear that Ramsey is handing over the first squad to Brunell on a silver platter. Four years later, three coaches later and the same bonehead mistakes. The crime we charged Brunell with last year has plagued Ramsey this year. The underthrown pass. It is unacceptable for an experienced QB to throw the kind of INT's he's throwing. Ramsey was in every damn camp Gibb's called for and he still doesn't get it. How smart is he really?

offiss · 08-20-2005, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by TAFKAS

I don't know that putting Ramsey in as the second stringer is going to give him confidence. It may pad his stats, but I can't imagine he'd feel too relaxed about Brunell starting.

Totally agree! Ramsey need's as much time with the first string as possible, I also think Gibbs should have him throwing downfield as much as possible, he need's to become better and more comfortable with the downfield passing game, and it's only going to happen threw repetition. If he throws some more INT's so be it hopefully he gets them out of his system before the opener.

Hopefully I will catch the replay tonight at 12:00am on the NFL network and have a better feel for what happened.

sportscurmudgeon · 08-22-2005, 01:15 AM

I just now watched the full game via TiVo. Here are some observations:

1. I think Mark Brunell is not nearly as bad as I thought he was last year. It must have been injuries that made him stink out the city then because he played decently against Cincy.

2. Patrick Ramsey is not a whole lot more mature as a QB now than he was at the end of last year. He still makes "bad decisions" and he still makes some bad throws. (NOTE: I didn't say he would never get better; I merely observed that against the Bengals he was "the same old Patrick Ramsey")

3. Rock Cartwright and Nehemiah Broughton are "fighting to see who will be the third down back". Here's the deal. Cut both of these lumps of mediocrity and bring back a 35-40 year old Brian Mitchell to fill that role. Even at that age, Mitchell is superior to either of those jamokes.

4. There is not NEARLY enough pressure on the passer generated by the DL.

5. The OL is 100% more effective in its pass blocking than last year. I never saw anyone get past Jansen all night...

6. The OL is 50% more effective in its run blocking than last year.

7. If you love Darnarian McCants, get him to autograph a jersey for you now because absent an injury to Kevin Dyson, he's not likely to be here in Washington much beyond Labor Day.

8. McCune can play LB. He may be the latter-day version of Sam Mills.

9. Boschetti absolutely dominated the guy in front of him in the late 3rd Q and early 4th Q. Is that because the guy in front of him was a stiff who will be outta town next week? Or is it that Boschetti is turning into a quality DL?

CRT3 · 08-20-2005, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Beemnseven

Matty, this is Palmer's second year as a starter after watching Kitna in his rookie season. Palmer looked shaky in the first few series against a still depleted Redskin starting defense, but warmed up a bit as the first half continued on. If you're trying to correlate his performance with Ramsey's, you needn't bother. Palmer, while younger with not as much experience as Ramsey, isn't projecting himself as such the way Ramsey still is.

Ramsey is older by 10 months. Palmer had a zero passer rating at the end of the 1st quarter. We had already pulled our D-line and linebackers at the end of the quarter and he moved the ball down the field, mostly on his ability to run becasue nothing was there. He looked shaky even against our 3rd stringers. If I were the bengals I would be worried as that was a pitiful performance.

As far as Ramsey, I personally thought he played fine. The Int. in the end zone was a ball that got a lot of air under it , similar to the TD to Thrash. I don't like that throw and he has to learn to zip it versus loft it unless it is the one on one fade. But that would be a better pass for Randy Moss and we don't have him. The other Int. looked like a miscommunication. We can not judge what we do not know. I also thought there was a ball in the 2nd series that Moss failed to make an attempt at. It was an excellent pass but he seemed to give up on the play. He did make a couple of great moves though.

The guy that impressed me the most was Antonio Brown. He was awsome. He seems to have a knack for returning the ball, expect him to break a few. But he juked Rasheed Bauman out of his jock strap for a catch. Sold the post and turned poor Bauman around and took the out pattern. GREAT MOVE!!!

On defense seems like Aki Jones is going to make the ball club.

Schneed10 · 08-20-2005, 09:57 AM

I didn't see the game, but I am encouraged by Ramsey showing an ability to hit the deep pass this time. Then again, against Carolina he made great decisions but a few throws were off. Now against Cinci, it sounds like the throws were on but the decisions were off.

I'll check out the replay on NFL network before I pass any real judgment.

Despite the bad decisions, it's nice to see big chunks of yardage in the passing game. It'd be real interesting to see how Portis would add to the mix, once he's healthy.

Anybody know how healthy the Bengals' D was for this one? I was just wondering if they were missing people, or if Ramsey's performance was against their first teamers?

08-20-2005, 02:09 AM	#1
JWsleep Propane and propane accessories Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Houston, TX Age: 55 Posts: 4,717	Thoughts on the game I didn't see it--I listened to it over the internet (Cinncy announcers). Seemed like Ramsey really went all out to hit the deep throws, and he finally connected on a few, which is good news. But the INTs were pretty terrible, and the one from the 13 took points off the board. THat's exactly what we did last year, and it killed us. We cannot keep losing the TO battle--no team can do well with a negative TO ratio. Seemed like Brunnell does well in scramble/hurry-up mode, though he didn't get much help from his receivers. BUt he couldn't hit the TD down close, and got bailed out by a pass interference call. Nemo sounded like he showed some real power at times, though the fumble at the end really hurt. The battle between him and rock is a tough one. Patten sounds like the real deal--he made some great catches to get the offense going. 3 catches for 109 yards. Nice stat. WIsh Moss had been able to get into the endzone on Ramsey's last drive--then he'd have 2 TD passes, and I think I'd feel a lot better. Getting three instead of seven there was disapointing. WHere was Cooley in all this? The first team D dominated Cinncy. They did not move the ball until the second-stringers got in there. BUt then they really went to town--I wonder if Williams went back into his "evaluation" mode at that point. Still, Rodgers had an early impact--the TD play he got burned, but in the first-team D he played his role, including having some nice hits. Washington sounded like he was everywhere on D. Couldn't tell how Marshall did, but early on the D was kicking ass. Nice to have Daniels and Griffths out there together as well. Nemo scored the TD and picked up a big third-down short yardage play. Rock had some big gainers, but got stuffed on a 4th down play. I feel pretty good about it, but we can't keep turning it over. That's killing us. My guess is that most of Ramsey's problems are that he's really pressing right now. But he cannot throw INTs like that in Gibbs offense. Gibbs will not stand for it, IMO. Now, why didn't Campbell play? Wonder if Gibbs is trying to see if Brunnell really has it? I didn't find him that impressive, but there were some drops. Hard to tell with the 2-3 stringers in there. Wonder what y'all thought? __________________ Hail from Houston!

08-20-2005, 02:59 AM	#2
Big C Mr. Brightside Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Leesburg, VA Age: 38 Posts: 4,453	Re: Thoughts on the game im prety d runk dude __________________ "I don't care what nobody say I'm a be me, stay hood stay real, cause I'm out here grindin'" -Joe Gibbs

08-20-2005, 03:15 AM	#3
BigSKINBauer Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Washington, DC Age: 36 Posts: 5,688	Re: Thoughts on the game i don't hold a bias against brunnel now. If he can win and ramsey can't i will take the one that can win. But tonight i saw ramsey throw nice passes, but then again make poor decisions, i think that he looked more comfortable but guys, everyone said just throw down field, just please throw down field, for the love of football and all of its fans and all of its history throw the damn ball downfield. Why? because that will open up the run. our calls were answered and gibbs made strides tonight that no one here could have predicted after seeing the game last week. We now know that we can bomb that shit down field if we need to make the opposing D to back off. This means a garanteed 1500 yards for portis and a posibility for much more in my opinion. We can throw deep, that is great and now we can run. Nothing to worry about, only thing is that ramsey needs to get it in the right place every time he throws it b/c those INTs were rediculous. Defensively we did good on first teams Nemo did very well but did fumble Antonio brown did better this week on returns and most ended near the 30 which is pretty good. David patten gets my player of the game, 110 on 3 passes. THat is rediculous. and there wasn't a bomb of 70 yards, it was a consistant 30 yards or so for every play.

08-20-2005, 08:27 AM	#5
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 42 Posts: 17,553	Re: Thoughts on the game one int was a disgustingly bad decision by ramsey, the other was an overthrow that could have hit moss, but the window was so small that i'd call it a pretty bad decision too. rock's failing on 4th and 2 was the o-lines fault, rock still looks good though, nemo did too beside the fumble... hell, bessides the ints ramsey looked good too :P 2 passes into tight spaces, completionss of 25(td), 30, 33, 46 yards... his feet weren't doing the happy dance like last game and he didn't stare down receivers (that i noticed, on the td he looked off thrash to open him up... good play). The stare own thing is something ramsey's typically been bad at throughout his short career. the bomb tossed on rodgers happened because he was exhausted (and it was very obvious)... now that he'll be doing full conditioning and practices that shouldn't happen again. I'm convinced we're 4 deep at RB... I see no problems with our game there, oline has looked better, rbs have looked really good (until combs comes in... that guy has to go. He dropped a massive turd last week and followed it up with another bad showing). Hopefully we can keep both of them. Boschetti is our 4th DT, I don't think there's really much of a competition there anymore... no real 1st team penalties... wilds looked good and better than rufus brown or AJ have so far, I think he'll be a good #4. ST also went man coverage on a top3 WR again and won... maybe he could be a cb in emergencies since we have more starters at safety. I rather have taylor, clark, bowen/preilou then AJ, taylor, clark brown is a GOOD returner. He didn't break anything big, but no fair catches and always got above average yardage. meanwhile our coverage team was solid again; thrash has to be the best gunner ever We didn't dump off behind the 1st down markers this game, the scheme looked legit, bombs, outside runs, etc... I don't think we have to worry about a repeat of 2004 for now. overall i think this was a good step up... besides ramsey (on again, off again) everyone looked pretty good (minus some scrubs). One thing i did mention in the chat was ramsey threw 2.5times per rush (20 to 8) and brunell threw 1.7 per (19 to 11) which helped brunell pass a bit easier early on (5/6 play his first drive were runs and cinci wasn't expecting it). That in no way excuses the ints or anything, just thought it was interesting.

08-20-2005, 09:28 AM	#6
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,518	Re: Thoughts on the game Ramsey made some nice throws and some really bad ones. I still don't think it's anything to panic about. Gibbs was calling mostly pass plays while PR was in there, and Ramsey seemed to be intent on throwing deep, perhaps that was the plan. I really liked the article by Mike Wise in the WP today, it sums up how I feel very well. I think the fans in general need to chill the hell out. Some other notes on the game: Carlos Rogers had some really nice plays but was also toasted for a TD. All in all a typical rookie performance. I'm sure Williams liked the fact he got burned, he got a little welcome to the NFL treatment. I think we're really going to like Patten and Moss. Patten had a nice catch in traffic and another nice foot dragging grab near the sideline. Once Ramsey and the WRs get a better rapport going watch out. Antonio Brown has some ankle breaking moves! He's really going to be something special as a returner and help us out with field position. The defense is a minor concern, we're missing alot of guys and Williams doesn't seem to be running anything too exotic. He seems to be strictly evaluating at this point. The battle between Rock and Nemo is really heating up. Nemo plowed over a couple of defenders and Rock seemed to have a nice burst getting to the outside. The fumble brought Nemo back down to earth a bit, and that's not necessarily a bad thing. Brunell looks sharp. His passes have zip and his trademark accuracy seems to be back. It would be interesting to see what he can do with the first team but I think Gibbs needs to stand behind Ramsey. Overall I was pleased that we were able to hit some big plays with the first teamers in there. Ramsey was up and down, but there are other factors to keep in mind, like a lack of running game, no Portis, etc. I think he's going to be fine once the entire offense comes together. Brunell is an interesting option though... where are all the Brunell haters now? On a side note, Palmer struggled and was also up and down, I wonder if the Bengals are looking to bench him? __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

08-20-2005, 05:25 AM	#4
offiss Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: sparta, new jersey [ northern jersey ] Age: 60 Posts: 3,097	Re: Thoughts on the game I just saw some highlights, bottom line I would really like to know what Ramsey is looking at or thinking on those INT's? I don't get it, what is the guy looking at? the defenders had position the whole way and he throws right to them. My thought all along is that he just need's some stability, and prtection before he really step's up, but those 2 INT's have me scratching my head, they were very disheartning to say the least.

08-20-2005, 10:19 AM	#7
Beemnseven Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Virginia Beach Age: 50 Posts: 5,311	Re: Thoughts on the game Matty, this is Palmer's second year as a starter after watching Kitna in his rookie season. Palmer looked shaky in the first few series against a still depleted Redskin starting defense, but warmed up a bit as the first half continued on. If you're trying to correlate his performance with Ramsey's, you needn't bother. Palmer, while younger with not as much experience as Ramsey, isn't projecting himself as such the way Ramsey still is. Overall, I think Ramsey had a better game than he did against Carolina, with 9 completions for 190 yards. That's a very nice yards per pass percentage. The problem is that when Ramsey's off, he's WAY off, throwing to guys in opposing jerseys. At this point in Ramsey's career, I think most of us, including Joe Gibbs expect more than that. Ramsey still hasn't settled down, and it's showing. Somebody opined that Ramsey simply cannot seem to handle pressure. But this is the preseason, when he's basically been awarded the starting job, and he's still playing as if he's a wide-eyed rookie trying to atone for himself on just about every play. That makes him restless, trying to go for the jugular instead of missing open receivers underneath and in the intermediate patterns. On two occasions last night, those exact scenarios played out, and he threw two interceptions that completely took the wind out of the team on their way to certain scores. I'm not calling for Ramsey to be benched. Just the opposite -- he needs all the playing time he can get. I still say though that we really should see Brunell start against the Steelers next Friday. But I would say that even if Ramsey had a flawless game. Give it to Brunell against the Steeler first teamers, and get Ramsey some confidence while playing against Pittsburgh reserves. And don't take this observation as "panic". It is what it is -- an observation. But to say that 'everything's fine' and 'all is well' would be stretching. That's all.

08-20-2005, 10:24 AM	#8
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: Thoughts on the game I don't know that putting Ramsey in as the second stringer is going to give him confidence. It may pad his stats, but I can't imagine he'd feel too relaxed about Brunell starting. __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

08-22-2005, 01:15 AM	#13
sportscurmudgeon Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,159	Re: Thoughts on the game I just now watched the full game via TiVo. Here are some observations: 1. I think Mark Brunell is not nearly as bad as I thought he was last year. It must have been injuries that made him stink out the city then because he played decently against Cincy. 2. Patrick Ramsey is not a whole lot more mature as a QB now than he was at the end of last year. He still makes "bad decisions" and he still makes some bad throws. (NOTE: I didn't say he would never get better; I merely observed that against the Bengals he was "the same old Patrick Ramsey") 3. Rock Cartwright and Nehemiah Broughton are "fighting to see who will be the third down back". Here's the deal. Cut both of these lumps of mediocrity and bring back a 35-40 year old Brian Mitchell to fill that role. Even at that age, Mitchell is superior to either of those jamokes. 4. There is not NEARLY enough pressure on the passer generated by the DL. 5. The OL is 100% more effective in its pass blocking than last year. I never saw anyone get past Jansen all night... 6. The OL is 50% more effective in its run blocking than last year. 7. If you love Darnarian McCants, get him to autograph a jersey for you now because absent an injury to Kevin Dyson, he's not likely to be here in Washington much beyond Labor Day. 8. McCune can play LB. He may be the latter-day version of Sam Mills. 9. Boschetti absolutely dominated the guy in front of him in the late 3rd Q and early 4th Q. Is that because the guy in front of him was a stiff who will be outta town next week? Or is it that Boschetti is turning into a quality DL? __________________ The Sports Curmudgeon www.sportscurmudgeon.com But don't get me wrong, I love sports...

08-20-2005, 09:57 AM	#15
Schneed10 A Dude Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Newtown Square, PA Age: 45 Posts: 12,422	Re: Thoughts on the game I didn't see the game, but I am encouraged by Ramsey showing an ability to hit the deep pass this time. Then again, against Carolina he made great decisions but a few throws were off. Now against Cinci, it sounds like the throws were on but the decisions were off. I'll check out the replay on NFL network before I pass any real judgment. Despite the bad decisions, it's nice to see big chunks of yardage in the passing game. It'd be real interesting to see how Portis would add to the mix, once he's healthy. Anybody know how healthy the Bengals' D was for this one? I was just wondering if they were missing people, or if Ramsey's performance was against their first teamers?

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