Brunell

[Theismann's Good Leg]

Besides the one bad pass that almost lost us the game, I was very happy with Brunell's performance. He managed the game well, threw strikes on a few clutch 3rd downs, and even showed off his running legs again today.

Who said anything about a QB controversy?

[steveo395]

that int was inexcusable though...we got lucky it didn't lose us the game...brunell is supposed to be the one who doesn't throw those kinds of ints

[mooby]

the ball was tipped, i thought it was more of the receivers fault because he shouldn't have even touched the ball, but hey, mistakes happen. overall a pretty good performance by him today.

[Kope]

He managed the O very well today. That was a very efficient, professional game.

[SKINSnCANES]

Originally Posted by mooby

the ball was tipped, i thought it was more of the receivers fault because he shouldn't have even touched the ball, but hey, mistakes happen. overall a pretty good performance by him today.

its never the receivers fault for trying to make a play on the ball. It could have been ag reat catch, but either way it was a horrible throw and brunells fault.

Brunell looked excellent on the run, making some clutch passes. I cant beleive he even got that one ball to moss that was ruled incomplete.

Gibbs still needs to work on his play calling, and brunell is still not hitting players in stride. He is underthrowing players and not putting the ball where it should be.

[VTSkins897]

Originally Posted by SKINSnCANES

its never the receivers fault for trying to make a play on the ball. It could have been ag reat catch, but either way it was a horrible throw and brunells fault.

Brunell looked excellent on the run, making some clutch passes. I cant beleive he even got that one ball to moss that was ruled incomplete.

Gibbs still needs to work on his play calling, and brunell is still not hitting players in stride. He is underthrowing players and not putting the ball where it should be.

if the ball hits the receiver in the hands he should catch it. not quite like going for the bullseye in darts. if anything i thought the offense played great and the D bent a little more than we've been used to.

great win though

[offiss]

Originally Posted by VTSkins897

if the ball hits the receiver in the hands he should catch it. not quite like going for the bullseye in darts. if anything i thought the offense played great and the D bent a little more than we've been used to.

great win though

Nonesense! The reciever had all he could do to reach back and get his finger tips on it, totally Brunell's fault in a crucial part of the game, luckly their kicker bit the apple.

[SKINSnCANES]

Originally Posted by VTSkins897

if the ball hits the receiver in the hands he should catch it. not quite like going for the bullseye in darts. if anything i thought the offense played great and the D bent a little more than we've been used to.

great win though

what do you mean its not like hitting the bullseye in darts, I dont get what you are saying? Brunell might have a hard time hitting the bullseye on a dart board with a football. Which is just weird underthrowing a stationary object.

Brunell is getting a lot better, but the bottom line is the scoreboard... Im very glad to have a defense that keeps us in these games.

Heres to our offense continually getting better and makign our defense better since they wont hvae to try for a shut out all the time

[VTSkins897]

Originally Posted by SKINSnCANES

what do you mean its not like hitting the bullseye in darts, I dont get what you are saying? Brunell might have a hard time hitting the bullseye on a dart board with a football. Which is just weird underthrowing a stationary object.

Brunell is getting a lot better, but the bottom line is the scoreboard... Im very glad to have a defense that keeps us in these games.

Heres to our offense continually getting better and makign our defense better since they wont hvae to try for a shut out all the time

no i think you're misunderstood. you don't play darts with a football. i feel that if it hits the rec. in the hands he should snag it. to me that throw wasn't so grossly thrown that CP couldn't pull it in.

as for the darts i was sorta implying that i dont feel the QB doesnt have to hit him on the numbers every time in my opinion... wasnt the best analogy. but i went to VT so dont expect much.

[jrocx69]

Originally Posted by SKINSnCANES

its never the receivers fault for trying to make a play on the ball. It could have been ag reat catch, but either way it was a horrible throw and brunells fault.

Brunell looked excellent on the run, making some clutch passes. I cant beleive he even got that one ball to moss that was ruled incomplete.

Gibbs still needs to work on his play calling, and brunell is still not hitting players in stride. He is underthrowing players and not putting the ball where it should be.

lol, i was a split end, try telling any football coach the ball hit my hands but its the QB's fault, lmao

where did you come up with that its not the receivers fault?

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by jrocx69

lol, i was a split end, try telling any football coach the ball hit my hands but its the QB's fault, lmao

where did you come up with that its not the receivers fault?

well in that specific case brunell made a bad throw and portis had to reach to try and get the thing, but it was still too far away. Makes sense to me anyways.

[offiss]

Originally Posted by jrocx69

lol, i was a split end, try telling any football coach the ball hit my hands but its the QB's fault, lmao

where did you come up with that its not the receivers fault?

I beleive SC was refering to the pass that went off Portis's hands for the INT, it was behind him and he had all he could do to touch it with his fingertips, there are plenty of instinces where a reciever can make contact with the ball yet the ball is pretty much uncatchable, which leaves the QB at fault for one reason or another.

Circumstances will dictate who's fault it is, obviously the QB could have had all he could do to get it there at all, or he could be a lowsey QB.

As an X coach I have run into plenty of people who would say if you can touch it you should catch it, my father included, but that's utter nonesense, how can you have creditablity with your players as a coach if you hand a player a load of garbage? Especially a player who just laid out for a ball and his herculian effort got him no closer than his finger tips, and then tell the reciver it's his fault, and then pat your QB on the back? I would reem my QB if he didn't put the right amount of touch on a ball regardless if it was caught or not.

Brunell is waiting way to long to throw the ball, he is not hitting his recievers out of their breaks, which if he did he would have more room to lead them, but he waits while the reciver is open which allows the defense precious time to recover. With that being said it's not all his fault, Gibbs pass patterns very rarely hit players in stride up the field, that used to be a pet peave of mine back in the 80's about Gibbs, I always felt he missed the boat and some big plays because the recievers were alway's stopped [usually on a comeback route] and then they would have to restart allowing the D to close in on them, Bombs are another story, but the majority of the offense is run that way, Brunell at this point is kind of unable to anticipate the recievers break and get the ball in the air before anyone can react to location, but that is a big problem for a lot of QB's, as well as it's not emphisized by coaches, timing is everything in the passing game IMO.

[wheeler]

Originally Posted by mooby

the ball was tipped, i thought it was more of the receivers fault because he shouldn't have even touched the ball, but hey, mistakes happen. overall a pretty good performance by him today.

that was Portis smackin that ball ,if your not gonna catch it make sure no one else does..........Brunell 's run late in the game was a CLUTCH run...............3-0
yeeeaaaa...........

[illdefined]

Brunell looked real good with that protection. everyone knows thats our weakness, but it seemed like wasn't rushed to throw the ball the whole game, the result: hardly no turnovers. as good as he threw, he didn't attack downfield enough, and it really hurt our running game.

[saden1]

Unless it hits the receiver perfectly square in the hands it's always the QB's fault. On that pass Burrell should have thrown down and low so that only Portis could catch it. Considering time was running out I was surprised that we didn't throw to the outside instead of the middle.