Do we need more cornerbacks?

Stacks42 · 10-14-2005, 05:16 PM

Just to take a few secs to introduce myself, 28 yr old skins fan, been a fan since I was six when I first attended RFK w/ my dad. Now a season ticket holder myself. Im a die hard fan and have been to nearly every home game for the past 12 yrs, and have even ventured to Philly and NY for skins games (Philly is dangerous!)

Ok now with the question: Is it wise for the redskins to only carry 4 cornerbacks? It really bothers me that we have two starting cornerbacks, that are injury prone (they have held up and I like them both) but behind them we have Rogers who is a rookie and Jimoh (who did play well last week) but is by no means a starter in the NFL. With the propensity for NFL teams to have 4 and 5 WR sets, we could potentially have covering them, a rookie, a special teamer, a safety, and LB's. Does that worry anyone else? We will face a great team this week in KC that can put up a bunch of yards in the air, Harris and Springs are supposed to start but neither is 100%, should the skins have searched the waiver wires for an extra CB?

#56fanatic · 10-14-2005, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Stacks42

Just to take a few secs to introduce myself, 28 yr old skins fan, been a fan since I was six when I first attended RFK w/ my dad. Now a season ticket holder myself. Im a die hard fan and have been to nearly every home game for the past 12 yrs, and have even ventured to Philly and NY for skins games (Philly is dangerous!)

Ok now with the question: Is it wise for the redskins to only carry 4 cornerbacks? It really bothers me that we have two starting cornerbacks, that are injury prone (they have held up and I like them both) but behind them we have Rogers who is a rookie and Jimoh (who did play well last week) but is by no means a starter in the NFL. With the propensity for NFL teams to have 4 and 5 WR sets, we could potentially have covering them, a rookie, a special teamer, a safety, and LB's. Does that worry anyone else? We will face a great team this week in KC that can put up a bunch of yards in the air, Harris and Springs are supposed to start but neither is 100%, should the skins have searched the waiver wires for an extra CB?

You make a point I was about to bring up earlier. Especially since GW likes to play alot DBs in his defensive schemes. The trouble is they are carrying two kickers right now which limits some roster spots. Once Hall is ready to go, we will bring another DB aboard. I would think they are going to play alot of cover 2 and 3 this weekend. We may end up looking a little soft on the run, but I dont think we are going to give up any big plays down the field. We still have Taylor who could like up with the 3rd or 4th receiver and bring Bowen in for over the top help. I think we will be ok.

Duffman003 · 10-14-2005, 05:29 PM

yeah, we have plenty of safties who can play pretty good pass coverage.

BigSKINBauer · 10-14-2005, 05:34 PM

welcome, i want more CBs and more WRs.

jamf · 10-14-2005, 05:36 PM

its a great question that i asked when we didnt cut NEMO.

so... why is nemo still on the team?

Southpaw · 10-14-2005, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by jamf

so... why is nemo still on the team?

Portis is listed as probable and Betts is listed as doubtful for this week.

Stacks42 · 10-14-2005, 05:41 PM

I think we should at least have another CB on the practice squad so he can learn the D system, so he can be brought on if we have another CB go down

FRPLG · 10-14-2005, 05:48 PM

I think this is a really good question I am wondering do most teams carry 5? If they do carry 5 do they leave one inactive? What did we do last year? Seems weird to be carrying only 4 at such an important spot. Who plays nickle when Harris and Springs are out? What if a team goes 4 wide?

hurrykaine · 10-14-2005, 06:06 PM

With the ineffective D-line (with two useless DEs), the average LBs (except M. Washington), and the banged up secondary, if we are a top 5 defense at the end of the year, GW deserves the Nobel Prize for defense. That will be a truly remarkable achievement, probably the greatest ever by a skins def. coordinator.

jrocx69 · 10-14-2005, 06:15 PM

Taylor can play Man to Man
Prioleau was a corner in college
Stoudamire was a corner in college
Clark was a Corner for NYG

williams knows what he wants and he likes CB's all over the place, he just likes CB's who can hit to play Safety

Bowen is the only one i think that doesnt have CB experience and i dont want him to start getting some here

Duffman003 · 10-15-2005, 02:32 AM

I think Bowen is the only one with terrible man coverage ... this is mostly based off him getting burned by keyshawn johnson 2 years ago which made me so angry i turned off the television

GoSkins! · 10-15-2005, 09:38 AM

We dont have many corners on the team, but there is a reason for that. First, like others have already said, Williams has great cover safeties and LB's. That offers a way to take the pressure off the CB when injuries happen and a backup needs help. Second, Williams uses schemes that often brings pressure from the secondary on obvious passing downs. This means a bad CB (like Jimoh) can be as hero as a great tackler when he is put in a blitzing situation. Ive seen Williams drop Washington and Marshall off the line to cover WR's. I've even seen Williams drop Griffin and Salavea into coverage off the DL.

On the surface it looks bad. It's just not as bad as it looks.

44deisel44 · 10-14-2005, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Stacks42

Just to take a few secs to introduce myself, 28 yr old skins fan, been a fan since I was six when I first attended RFK w/ my dad. Now a season ticket holder myself. Im a die hard fan and have been to nearly every home game for the past 12 yrs, and have even ventured to Philly and NY for skins games (Philly is dangerous!)

Ok now with the question: Is it wise for the redskins to only carry 4 cornerbacks? It really bothers me that we have two starting cornerbacks, that are injury prone (they have held up and I like them both) but behind them we have Rogers who is a rookie and Jimoh (who did play well last week) but is by no means a starter in the NFL. With the propensity for NFL teams to have 4 and 5 WR sets, we could potentially have covering them, a rookie, a special teamer, a safety, and LB's. Does that worry anyone else? We will face a great team this week in KC that can put up a bunch of yards in the air, Harris and Springs are supposed to start but neither is 100%, should the skins have searched the waiver wires for an extra CB?

#56 is excactly right!!! Dont forget Clark, and Pierson Prioleau is healthy now!

TheMalcolmConnection · 10-14-2005, 06:27 PM

I also have to say that in the games that Pierson played, he was playing excellent football.

That Guy · 10-14-2005, 07:00 PM

if clark can play corner, then wtf was ade doing on the field?

10-14-2005, 05:16 PM	#1
Stacks42 Impact Rookie Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Arlington Va. Age: 48 Posts: 835	Do we need more cornerbacks? Just to take a few secs to introduce myself, 28 yr old skins fan, been a fan since I was six when I first attended RFK w/ my dad. Now a season ticket holder myself. Im a die hard fan and have been to nearly every home game for the past 12 yrs, and have even ventured to Philly and NY for skins games (Philly is dangerous!) Ok now with the question: Is it wise for the redskins to only carry 4 cornerbacks? It really bothers me that we have two starting cornerbacks, that are injury prone (they have held up and I like them both) but behind them we have Rogers who is a rookie and Jimoh (who did play well last week) but is by no means a starter in the NFL. With the propensity for NFL teams to have 4 and 5 WR sets, we could potentially have covering them, a rookie, a special teamer, a safety, and LB's. Does that worry anyone else? We will face a great team this week in KC that can put up a bunch of yards in the air, Harris and Springs are supposed to start but neither is 100%, should the skins have searched the waiver wires for an extra CB? __________________ The NEXT special teams coordinator

10-14-2005, 05:29 PM	#3
Duffman003 Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 602	Re: Cornerbacks yeah, we have plenty of safties who can play pretty good pass coverage.

10-14-2005, 05:34 PM	#4
BigSKINBauer Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Washington, DC Age: 36 Posts: 5,688	Re: Cornerbacks welcome, i want more CBs and more WRs.

10-14-2005, 05:41 PM	#7
Stacks42 Impact Rookie Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Arlington Va. Age: 48 Posts: 835	Re: Cornerbacks I think we should at least have another CB on the practice squad so he can learn the D system, so he can be brought on if we have another CB go down __________________ The NEXT special teams coordinator

10-14-2005, 05:48 PM	#8
FRPLG MVP Join Date: May 2004 Age: 46 Posts: 10,164	Re: Cornerbacks I think this is a really good question I am wondering do most teams carry 5? If they do carry 5 do they leave one inactive? What did we do last year? Seems weird to be carrying only 4 at such an important spot. Who plays nickle when Harris and Springs are out? What if a team goes 4 wide?

10-14-2005, 05:36 PM	#5
jamf Pro Bowl Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: San Diego Ca Posts: 5,319	Re: Cornerbacks its a great question that i asked when we didnt cut NEMO. so... why is nemo still on the team?

10-14-2005, 06:06 PM	#9
hurrykaine Impact Rookie Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Washington, D.C. Age: 51 Posts: 762	Re: Cornerbacks With the ineffective D-line (with two useless DEs), the average LBs (except M. Washington), and the banged up secondary, if we are a top 5 defense at the end of the year, GW deserves the Nobel Prize for defense. That will be a truly remarkable achievement, probably the greatest ever by a skins def. coordinator.

10-14-2005, 06:15 PM	#10
jrocx69 Special Teams Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Dallas Age: 43 Posts: 461	Re: Cornerbacks Taylor can play Man to Man Prioleau was a corner in college Stoudamire was a corner in college Clark was a Corner for NYG williams knows what he wants and he likes CB's all over the place, he just likes CB's who can hit to play Safety Bowen is the only one i think that doesnt have CB experience and i dont want him to start getting some here

10-15-2005, 02:32 AM	#11
Duffman003 Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 602	Re: Do we need more cornerbacks? I think Bowen is the only one with terrible man coverage ... this is mostly based off him getting burned by keyshawn johnson 2 years ago which made me so angry i turned off the television

10-15-2005, 09:38 AM	#12
GoSkins! The Starter Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Yorktown, Va Age: 55 Posts: 1,587	Re: Do we need more cornerbacks? We dont have many corners on the team, but there is a reason for that. First, like others have already said, Williams has great cover safeties and LB's. That offers a way to take the pressure off the CB when injuries happen and a backup needs help. Second, Williams uses schemes that often brings pressure from the secondary on obvious passing downs. This means a bad CB (like Jimoh) can be as hero as a great tackler when he is put in a blitzing situation. Ive seen Williams drop Washington and Marshall off the line to cover WR's. I've even seen Williams drop Griffin and Salavea into coverage off the DL. On the surface it looks bad. It's just not as bad as it looks. __________________ Not everything that counts can be counted, and not everything that can be counted counts. A. Einstien

10-14-2005, 06:27 PM	#14
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lexington, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,225	Re: Cornerbacks I also have to say that in the games that Pierson played, he was playing excellent football. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

10-14-2005, 07:00 PM	#15
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 42 Posts: 17,553	Re: Cornerbacks if clark can play corner, then wtf was ade doing on the field?

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