Is Carlos Rogers overrated?

paulskinsfan · 11-14-2005, 11:06 AM

Its what, week 10, and our 1st round pick hasn't done enough to replace Walt Harris as the starting corner. Is anyone else worried about this? I mean, I know Champ was a higher pick, but he started almost immediately. Shouldn't Rogers be contributing to this team by now? In light of the fact that Priouleau (I never spell that right) and Harris were getting burned like a dime bag at a Grateful Dead Concert, isn't now the time when our No. 1 pick steps up? So far, he's done nothing to justify such a high pick and Ive been really disappointed with his lack of development.

Southpaw · 11-14-2005, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by paulskinsfan

I mean, I know Champ was a higher pick, but he started almost immediately. Shouldn't Rogers be contributing to this team by now? In light of the fact that Priouleau (I never spell that right) and Harris were getting burned like a dime bag at a Grateful Dead Concert, isn't now the time when our No. 1 pick steps up? So far, he's done nothing to justify such a high pick and Ive been really disappointed with his lack of development.

You're going to catch hell for this post, but I completely agree. He also got torched by the #3 wideout yesterday too. I'm willing to let that one slide for the time being since it's the first time I've seen him get beat deep, but at the very least, he plays very soft coverage. I'm sick of seeing him give a 12 yard cushion on 3rd and 7. He is a much better tackler than Walt Harris, but they seem to be about equal on coverage, so I guess it's a toss up as to who should start.

And Champ was only three picks higher than Rogers.

Skinsfanforlife · 11-15-2005, 01:50 PM

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You're going to catch hell for this post, but I completely agree. He also got torched by the #3 wideout yesterday too. I'm willing to let that one slide for the time being since it's the first time I've seen him get beat deep, but at the very least, he plays very soft coverage. I'm sick of seeing him give a 12 yard cushion on 3rd and 7. He is a much better tackler than Walt Harris, but they seem to be about equal on coverage, so I guess it's a toss up as to who should start.

And Champ was only three picks higher than Rogers.

This is for both of you.........if you have no pass rush it's hard to cover someone. Not one sack on Chris Simms........ what a joke........

jdlea · 11-15-2005, 01:53 PM

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This is for both of you.........if you have no pass rush it's hard to cover someone. Not one sack on Chris Simms........ what a joke........

Then that same arguement should be applied to why Walt Harris doesn't suck.

Redskins_P · 11-15-2005, 02:12 PM

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Then that same arguement should be applied to why Walt Harris doesn't suck.

Walt Harris is probably our worst tackler and he's getting burnt with and without a rush.

He's probably the only Redskin on my shit list right now. But this is only my opinion....

Beemnseven · 11-15-2005, 05:03 PM

If by the 10th game of the season the coaching staff doesn't think you're ready to start, and Walt Harris is considered better than you, I'd say that's not a good sign.

railcon56 · 11-15-2005, 05:21 PM

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This is for both of you.........if you have no pass rush it's hard to cover someone. Not one sack on Chris Simms........ what a joke........

didnt we have a pass rush last season what happened ..i have been saying since the beginning of the season i saw trouble coming with this defense we have NO RUSH....u give any QB that much time he will pick you apart .... Willaims had those players last year ..what happened what changed .... the buck stops with williams he kept walt harris ... i just think this coaching staff is too old school on keep veterans but what good are they if the young bucks can run right past them... we can only hope that sean taylor gets back ...the season isnt lost but i feel the whole team needs to play with more urgency .and take more gambles what do they have to lose cause if we dont make the playoffs i doubt gibbs will stay around...

railcon56 · 11-15-2005, 05:23 PM

please delete moderators this extra post by me i tried to edit didnt work

SmootSmack · 11-15-2005, 05:39 PM

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please delete moderators

delete what? this thread, why?

diehardskin2982 · 11-14-2005, 11:32 AM

the league is tougher that when champ entered and he got the tutledge of D.Green and Deon Sanders...We should hire Darrell as a consultant for the young corners

Paintrain · 11-14-2005, 11:36 AM

I didn't know that Rogers was 'rated' to be overrated. I put a whole lot more on Walt Harris' shoulders than Rogers. Harris got beat for 2 TD, I only saw Rogers get beat for one deep ball..

FirstandTen · 11-14-2005, 04:16 PM

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I didn't know that Rogers was 'rated' to be overrated. I put a whole lot more on Walt Harris' shoulders than Rogers. Harris got beat for 2 TD, I only saw Rogers get beat for one deep ball..

Agreed!

Southpaw · 11-14-2005, 04:23 PM

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I didn't know that Rogers was 'rated' to be overrated. I put a whole lot more on Walt Harris' shoulders than Rogers. Harris got beat for 2 TD, I only saw Rogers get beat for one deep ball..

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Agreed!

Being drafted in the top 10 makes him "rated".

FirstandTen · 11-14-2005, 04:34 PM

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I didn't know that Rogers was 'rated' to be overrated. I put a whole lot more on Walt Harris' shoulders than Rogers. Harris got beat for 2 TD, I only saw Rogers get beat for one deep ball..

Being drafted in the top 10 makes him "rated".

So is he suppose to be an Pro bowler? I rate him as a rookie playing a tuff positon to jump right into. Like a QB its hard to expect even at top 10 dafted CB to be impact player his rookie year. Time will tell..

jdlea · 11-15-2005, 11:10 AM

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the league is tougher that when champ entered and he got the tutledge of D.Green and Deon Sanders...We should hire Darrell as a consultant for the young corners

Actually Deion wasn't on the team until Champ's 2nd year and as I remember Champ had a very good rookie season.

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paulskinsfan Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: West VA Posts: 726	Is Carlos Rogers overrated? Its what, week 10, and our 1st round pick hasn't done enough to replace Walt Harris as the starting corner. Is anyone else worried about this? I mean, I know Champ was a higher pick, but he started almost immediately. Shouldn't Rogers be contributing to this team by now? In light of the fact that Priouleau (I never spell that right) and Harris were getting burned like a dime bag at a Grateful Dead Concert, isn't now the time when our No. 1 pick steps up? So far, he's done nothing to justify such a high pick and Ive been really disappointed with his lack of development.

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Beemnseven Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Virginia Beach Age: 50 Posts: 5,311	Re: Is Carlos Rogers overrated? If by the 10th game of the season the coaching staff doesn't think you're ready to start, and Walt Harris is considered better than you, I'd say that's not a good sign.

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