The Rock

Hail2em · 12-04-2005, 08:06 PM

Dont get me wrong cliton is a damn good RB but i thinnk the rock fits this sytem a little better. His vision is awesome and can pick out the holes a little better then portis.

flyfischer · 12-04-2005, 08:11 PM

why not just have two good or three good rb's?

jdlea · 12-04-2005, 08:11 PM

Can we have one week without a "replace Portis" debate?

NFLeurope · 12-04-2005, 08:14 PM

glad we didnt cut him in preseason...

Question though...what do you guys think about Betts and this off-season...isn't he a free agent this year??

Do you think we make a move to resign him...or just save the cap room...let him leave...and move on with portis, rock, and nemo?

Hail2em · 12-04-2005, 08:15 PM

lol...its not a bebate...all i said is what i seen during the game...dont blow the shit up man...just respond postively about it JD!

Big C · 12-04-2005, 08:16 PM

i like how they combined, i would like to see them used more interchangably so that we always have a fresh runner in there. rock did a great job tonight

BigSKINBauer · 12-04-2005, 08:24 PM

we don't need all 3 of betts,rock, and nemo. I can trade either betts or rock and pick have nemo as our 3rd. We have 3 starting quality runners

SkinsLove24/7 · 12-04-2005, 08:30 PM

Keep Portis and Rock as the running backs and I'm sure they could get something if they attemted to trade Betts. Maybe a draft pick or a D-lineman.

NFLeurope · 12-04-2005, 08:35 PM

but isnt betts a free agent at the end of the year?...how can you trade him if he is a free agent...?

Would it be by placing one of those tenders on him...(by the way can someone explain to me...the whole free agent tender thing?...From what i understand...there are three levels of tenders. The team pays a certain amount...depending which tender it is...and then if the guys signs with another team then that team has to relinquish a pick or something???)

mooby · 12-04-2005, 08:36 PM

They can't trade Betts because his contract is up after the season. I still like betts, but if we don't resign him, i think we are in a great position with cartwright backing him up.

One reason i like Portis is because of his break away speed. Remember that 52 yard run by Cartwright today? If that had been Portis it would've been a touchdown. I think that Portis could pick his holes more wisely though. I've seen it in the past where there are wide open running lanes, but Portis chooses to run into the pile instead of cutting across. I hope Portis stays in washington for the rest of his career.

jdlea · 12-04-2005, 09:24 PM

I don't think there's any chance that Rock could carry the load for this team. When Spurrier tried to give him some carries he got hurt. Whenever Betts gets a bunch of carries he gets hurt.

Those two look good because they're change of pace backs. Did we want to replace Stephen Davis with Ki Jana Carter? No. You need guys like them to come in and change the pace. They're not much different from Tatum Bell or Ron Dayne, but Denver still starts Mike Anderson. Just like when Trung was in St. Louis, he would break some big ones, but the better back started the game.

The better back starts the game in this offense. What Joe Gibbs needs to do is come up with effective ways to use all of them while still featuring Portis.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 12-04-2005, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by jdlea

I don't think there's any chance that Rock could carry the load for this team. When Spurrier tried to give him some carries he got hurt. Whenever Betts gets a bunch of carries he gets hurt.

Those two look good because they're change of pace backs. Did we want to replace Stephen Davis with Ki Jana Carter? No. You need guys like them to come in and change the pace. They're not much different from Tatum Bell or Ron Dayne, but Denver still starts Mike Anderson. Just like when Trung was in St. Louis, he would break some big ones, but the better back started the game.

The better back starts the game in this offense. What Joe Gibbs needs to do is come up with effective ways to use all of them while still featuring Portis.

I agree 100%. Rock is a very good change-up back, but he's not a starter.

SUNRA · 12-04-2005, 10:16 PM

Any RB who can score on his first carry against the Chargers and bust a 48 yarder against the Rams may not be a starter, but he is a playmaker. Rock was visibly upset after his run because he was called to the sidelines. Portis was stuffed and never had a chance to score. We should have scored on that play rather than kick a field goal. Rock is a downhill RB who can break tackles and hit the sidelines with exceptional speed. Portis is not 100% in the fourth quarter which hurts the running game. Rock should get the ball more as a change-up RB to compliment Portis and change the pace the running game.

steveo395 · 12-04-2005, 11:23 PM

cartwrights contract runs out after this year and betts still has another year on his deal

railcon56 · 12-04-2005, 11:23 PM

Portis is still the number #1 back..The Rock ran nicely tho..

12-04-2005, 08:11 PM	#2
flyfischer Camp Scrub Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 47	Re: The Rock why not just have two good or three good rb's?

12-04-2005, 08:11 PM	#3
jdlea Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, VA Age: 40 Posts: 3,109	Re: The Rock Can we have one week without a "replace Portis" debate?

12-04-2005, 08:14 PM	#4
NFLeurope Camp Scrub Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 85	Re: The Rock glad we didnt cut him in preseason... Question though...what do you guys think about Betts and this off-season...isn't he a free agent this year?? Do you think we make a move to resign him...or just save the cap room...let him leave...and move on with portis, rock, and nemo?

12-04-2005, 08:15 PM	#5
Hail2em Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Va. Beach, Virginia Posts: 229	Re: The Rock lol...its not a bebate...all i said is what i seen during the game...dont blow the shit up man...just respond postively about it JD!

12-04-2005, 08:16 PM	#6
Big C Mr. Brightside Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Leesburg, VA Age: 38 Posts: 4,453	Re: The Rock i like how they combined, i would like to see them used more interchangably so that we always have a fresh runner in there. rock did a great job tonight __________________ "I don't care what nobody say I'm a be me, stay hood stay real, cause I'm out here grindin'" -Joe Gibbs

12-04-2005, 08:06 PM	#1
Hail2em Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Va. Beach, Virginia Posts: 229	The Rock Dont get me wrong cliton is a damn good RB but i thinnk the rock fits this sytem a little better. His vision is awesome and can pick out the holes a little better then portis.

12-04-2005, 08:24 PM	#7
BigSKINBauer Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Washington, DC Age: 36 Posts: 5,688	Re: The Rock we don't need all 3 of betts,rock, and nemo. I can trade either betts or rock and pick have nemo as our 3rd. We have 3 starting quality runners

12-04-2005, 08:30 PM	#8
SkinsLove24/7 Special Teams Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Bowie, MD Age: 37 Posts: 423	Re: The Rock Keep Portis and Rock as the running backs and I'm sure they could get something if they attemted to trade Betts. Maybe a draft pick or a D-lineman.

12-04-2005, 08:35 PM	#9
NFLeurope Camp Scrub Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 85	Re: The Rock but isnt betts a free agent at the end of the year?...how can you trade him if he is a free agent...? Would it be by placing one of those tenders on him...(by the way can someone explain to me...the whole free agent tender thing?...From what i understand...there are three levels of tenders. The team pays a certain amount...depending which tender it is...and then if the guys signs with another team then that team has to relinquish a pick or something???)

12-04-2005, 08:36 PM	#10
mooby Hug Anne Spyder Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 20,468	Re: The Rock They can't trade Betts because his contract is up after the season. I still like betts, but if we don't resign him, i think we are in a great position with cartwright backing him up. One reason i like Portis is because of his break away speed. Remember that 52 yard run by Cartwright today? If that had been Portis it would've been a touchdown. I think that Portis could pick his holes more wisely though. I've seen it in the past where there are wide open running lanes, but Portis chooses to run into the pile instead of cutting across. I hope Portis stays in washington for the rest of his career.

12-04-2005, 09:24 PM	#11
jdlea Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, VA Age: 40 Posts: 3,109	Re: The Rock I don't think there's any chance that Rock could carry the load for this team. When Spurrier tried to give him some carries he got hurt. Whenever Betts gets a bunch of carries he gets hurt. Those two look good because they're change of pace backs. Did we want to replace Stephen Davis with Ki Jana Carter? No. You need guys like them to come in and change the pace. They're not much different from Tatum Bell or Ron Dayne, but Denver still starts Mike Anderson. Just like when Trung was in St. Louis, he would break some big ones, but the better back started the game. The better back starts the game in this offense. What Joe Gibbs needs to do is come up with effective ways to use all of them while still featuring Portis.

12-04-2005, 10:16 PM	#13
SUNRA The Starter Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,680	Re: The Rock Any RB who can score on his first carry against the Chargers and bust a 48 yarder against the Rams may not be a starter, but he is a playmaker. Rock was visibly upset after his run because he was called to the sidelines. Portis was stuffed and never had a chance to score. We should have scored on that play rather than kick a field goal. Rock is a downhill RB who can break tackles and hit the sidelines with exceptional speed. Portis is not 100% in the fourth quarter which hurts the running game. Rock should get the ball more as a change-up RB to compliment Portis and change the pace the running game. __________________ Redskins Member since 1970

12-04-2005, 11:23 PM	#14
steveo395 The Starter Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,674	Re: The Rock cartwrights contract runs out after this year and betts still has another year on his deal

12-04-2005, 11:23 PM	#15
railcon56 Impact Rookie Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 922	Re: The Rock Portis is still the number #1 back..The Rock ran nicely tho.. __________________ Run or Pass and Score ..We Want Alot More!!!!

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