Giants Fans Won't Own Up To A Beat Down!

[skinsguy]

They'll blame it on the refs or they'll say the Giants beat themselves, but they have a hard time owning up to the simple fact that we kicked their blue butts!!

http://boards.giants.com/forums/inde...howtopic=83544

[12thMan]

I don't get it, how were the refs responsible for 35 points?

If anything, that PF call on Clark at the end of the first half was BS, and set up the TD we handed them.

[skinsguy]

Of course, I'll agree that alot of the officiating this year has been less than sub par, but that has happened to alot of the teams around the league. Good teams find a way to work past bad officiating. That day, we were the better team...but they won't own up to it!

[Redskins_P]

Jeez, I thought we were bad after a loss!!!

[MTK]

I'm sorry but that game wasn't even as close as the score indicated.

Their only offensive TD came off a BS lucky tip.

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I'm sorry but that game wasn't even as close as the score indicated.

Their only offensive TD came off a BS lucky tip.

Take away that personal foul call on Clarke and the Giants would've probably punted on that drive.

[MTK]

I did find this interesting though:

Giants lose to Washington because the defense was terrible (terrible = giving up 35 points) and still most of the threads are about the offense and bashing Manning. Talking about trading Eli for Bollinger ... geez!

I get the feeling that most of these posters will never be happy with Manning.

Sounds familiar, doesn't it?

[dmek25]

sometimes we are pretty bad after a win

[mheisig]

I'll be one of the first to admit when the Skins screw up and get a well-deserved penalty or point out a bad call, but what the hell are the Giants fans talking about? I don't recall a single controversial call from the game, one way or the other.

[skinsguy]

They were fussin' about Strahan getting held on every play and how Shockey was interfered with. I'd have to go back and watch the Shockey play again. Either way, they have no excuses for Shockey giving up on that play....you fight until you hear the bell!

[mheisig]

Originally Posted by skinsguy

They were fussin' about Strahan getting held on every play and how Shockey was interfered with. I'd have to go back and watch the Shockey play again. Either way, they have no excuses for Shockey giving up on that play....you fight until you hear the bell!

I've watched the game a couple of times (God bless Tivo) and in my opinion the holding on Strahan was negligible. Fact of the matter is holding occurs on damn near every NFL play, it just only gets called when it's particularly bad or really impacts the play. The holding on Strahan, again in my albeit biased view, was no worse than the holding they did on our D line.

The PI call (or lack thereof) on Shockey could've gone both ways if you ask me. Marshall seemed to be bumping against Shockey's arm a bit, but it hardly prevented Shockey from trying to catch the ball. I think it's a case of a big, physical TE who's known for being a tough physical player being covered by an equally tough LB. I'm glad the officials don't call every little sneeze or wayward look when ya got two physical guys going for a play.

Either way, like you said there's no excuse for Shockey just stopping on the play - that's Pee Wee Football Lesson 1 right there.

[skins052bgr8]

Originally Posted by mheisig

I've watched the game a couple of times (God bless Tivo) and in my opinion the holding on Strahan was negligible. Fact of the matter is holding occurs on damn near every NFL play, it just only gets called when it's particularly bad or really impacts the play. The holding on Strahan, again in my albeit biased view, was no worse than the holding they did on our D line.

The PI call (or lack thereof) on Shockey could've gone both ways if you ask me. Marshall seemed to be bumping against Shockey's arm a bit, but it hardly prevented Shockey from trying to catch the ball. I think it's a case of a big, physical TE who's known for being a tough physical player being covered by an equally tough LB. I'm glad the officials don't call every little sneeze or wayward look when ya got two physical guys going for a play.

Either way, like you said there's no excuse for Shockey just stopping on the play - that's Pee Wee Football Lesson 1 right there.

Yeah that PI was crap and the right call, Shockey is used to winning those battles and nobody playing him physical, he came out and drove right into Marshall who knocked his ass back, then pus looking for a interference call. Then the one that the announcers said was interference on the last drive with Springs, clearly was making a play on the ball some of these assholes forget the defender has just as much right to make a play on the ball as the Offense. So many penalties are missed during the game, penalties should never make you lose the game. I do and have questioned some of the calls that are made in situations toward the end of the game or momentum killer calls.

[offiss]

living in jersey I have had a lot of fun with it, I play a lot of cards and of coarse every game is loaded with Giant fans, and a fair share of cowboy fans, and of coarse I always wear my skins gear, it's pretty funny because they want to make fun of the skins, yet they also want to make fun of each other, on one hand they like us because of what we did to the other team, but on the other hand they hate us because of what we did to them. And yes all I hear from the Giant fans are the refs, so I have to remind them of previous calls that lost or tied games we should have won, it's been a lot of fun around here the last few weeks.

I also have a quick question, the hit by Clark on the sideline I forget who he hit, he led with his head but hit him in the shoulder, was the personel foul because he led with his head? Or was it because they thought it was helmit to helmit which it wasen't. I thought you could leed with your head so long as you didn't hit him in the head, or spear him on the ground, does anyone know the actual ruling on this?

[44deisel44]

Originally Posted by offiss

living in jersey I have had a lot of fun with it, I play a lot of cards and of coarse every game is loaded with Giant fans, and a fair share of cowboy fans, and of coarse I always wear my skins gear, it's pretty funny because they want to make fun of the skins, yet they also want to make fun of each other, on one hand they like us because of what we did to the other team, but on the other hand they hate us because of what we did to them. And yes all I hear from the Giant fans are the refs, so I have to remind them of previous calls that lost or tied games we should have won, it's been a lot of fun around here the last few weeks.

I also have a quick question, the hit by Clark on the sideline I forget who he hit, he led with his head but hit him in the shoulder, was the personel foul because he led with his head? Or was it because they thought it was helmit to helmit which it wasen't. I thought you could leed with your head so long as you didn't hit him in the head, or spear him on the ground, does anyone know the actual ruling on this?

You can't lead with the crown of your helmet on a defensless player.

[12thMan]

how ridiculous of them to use bad officiating. really now, what game were they watching?

they'd better pray real hard that we don't get into the playoffs.