Our Secondary

CrustyRedskin · 09-23-2014, 02:45 PM

Noticed Chicago was down five starters last night.

Great teams have great depth-John Wooden

Defensewins · 09-23-2014, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

Orakpo? Isn't he that tall, bearded guy from Texas? Haven't seen him around for quite awhile. What's he doing these days?

Wasn't Haslett going to unleash him to rush the passer this year?
According the Orakpo fan club, he was going to be a different player this year. I think the words were "you will see...I can't wait".
All kidding aside, I have been the biggest critic of Orakpo in the past for not keeping contain and gap responsibility when he wildly rushed the passer in the past. The ironic part is he has improved on that this year. Seriously, I have been impressed with him improving on that weakness he had, but he has not yet gotten the sacks yet. It is a long season - he still has time to get his sacks. .

Lotus · 09-23-2014, 02:52 PM

Breeland will kill us with avoidable errors. Almost all rookie corners do. But the bright side of the Hall injury is that Breeland will enter next year with considerable experience for a young pup.

Lilman52 · 09-23-2014, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

Orakpo? Isn't he that tall, bearded guy from Texas? Haven't seen him around for quite awhile. What's he doing these days?

Brian Orakpo has torn ligament, will play with cast | ProFootballTalk

Well this should help him out some.... SMH. Can't catch a break for this defense

NC_Skins · 09-23-2014, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Meks

They had pressure, philly just gameplanned to get the ball out in 3-4 seconds 85% of the time. I dont care who u are its hard to sack a guy that fast. .. we beat foles up a decent amount, little to no pressure is a near sighted remark

They did? They only had 2 QB hits the whole day and 0 sacks. ZERO. Actually, 3-4 seconds is a lifetime in terms of a QB holding the ball. If they are holding over 2.7 seconds, it's too long. (may be long even then)

Fast releases for Peyton Manning, Tom Brady have propelled their NFL careers - The Denver Post

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blo...time-to-throw/

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blo...time-to-throw/

Even if he was getting the ball out fast (which he wasn't), it's up to the coach to counter that. Sounds like Haslett got out-coached yet again. THAT, I can buy.

MTK · 09-23-2014, 06:45 PM

Foles was on his ass all day. No sacks but there was definitely a lot of pressure.

Hog1 · 09-23-2014, 07:14 PM

We have been playing good physical ball. We are unaccustomed to winning and will take some time as we are a work in progress. I like what I see out of Jay as well

CRedskinsRule · 09-23-2014, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Hog1

We have been aging good physical ball. We are un accustomed to winning and will take some time as we are a work in progress. I like what I see out of Jay as well

I am a Gruden supporter, but he has to get the penalties cleaned up fast.

Hog1 · 09-23-2014, 08:02 PM

He's a rook to
I think he will and his game plans have been solid
The obvious let downs on penalties, and teams nonsense have to go

SFREDSKIN · 09-23-2014, 08:10 PM

I personally like our young secondary, they'll be fine. They will have growing pains and success, a change needs to happen at some point. Amerson, Breeland, Minnifield, I wish Crawford was brought back.

saden1 · 09-23-2014, 08:11 PM

Bruce Allen thought the defense had no gaping holes. You guys should all stop panicking and have some faith!

Oh wait, a mediocre corner went down and a mediocre safety was cut and replaced with a less mediocre safety. Eject! Eject!

Hog1 · 09-23-2014, 08:15 PM

I think BA is......keenly aware what holes we have where

NC_Skins · 09-23-2014, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

Foles was on his ass all day. No sacks but there was definitely a lot of pressure.

We must have watched different games. He have have been pressured some but the 2 QB hits definitely contradicts your statement about being on his ass all day.

DYoungJelly · 09-23-2014, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Meks

They had pressure, philly just gameplanned to get the ball out in 3-4 seconds 85% of the time. I dont care who u are its hard to sack a guy that fast. .. we beat foles up a decent amount, little to no pressure is a near sighted remark

I don't know about the 3 to 4 seconds but totally agree otherwise.

Their play calling was a lot of quick passes and reads.

Our pass rush with 4 could always improve but they were definitely game planning for it.

Bangee7 · 09-23-2014, 08:42 PM

Hated to see the D Hall injury, but it definitely opens opportunities for the young guns.

Also, Porter getting in should help out- he's always been solid.

I'm OK with getting a good long look at Trenton Robinson as well.

No better way for them to learn than to strap it on & get them out there.

Hail!

09-23-2014, 02:45 PM	#46
CrustyRedskin Playmaker Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: RatherbeinDC, TX Posts: 3,059	Re: Our Secondary Noticed Chicago was down five starters last night. Great teams have great depth-John Wooden __________________ Lafayette, we're here. HTTR. You wern't a bunch of losers on 10-27-14.

09-23-2014, 02:52 PM	#48
Lotus Fire Bruce NOW Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Hattiesburg, MS Posts: 11,434	Re: Our Secondary Breeland will kill us with avoidable errors. Almost all rookie corners do. But the bright side of the Hall injury is that Breeland will enter next year with considerable experience for a young pup. __________________ Bruce Allen when in charge alone: 4-12 (.250) Bruce Allen's overall Redskins record : 28-52 (.350) Vinny Cerrato's record when in charge alone: 52-65 (.444) Vinny's overall Redskins record: 62-82 (.430) We won more with Vinny

09-23-2014, 06:45 PM	#51
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,518	Re: Our Secondary Foles was on his ass all day. No sacks but there was definitely a lot of pressure. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

09-23-2014, 07:14 PM	#52
Hog1 Quietly Dominating the East Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Naples, Florida Posts: 10,675	Re: Our Secondary We have been playing good physical ball. We are unaccustomed to winning and will take some time as we are a work in progress. I like what I see out of Jay as well __________________ Goodbye Sean..........Vaya Con Dios thankyou Joe....... *“God made certain people to play football. He was one of them.” – Joe Gibbs* Last edited by Hog1; 09-23-2014 at 07:41 PM.

09-23-2014, 08:02 PM	#54
Hog1 Quietly Dominating the East Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Naples, Florida Posts: 10,675	Re: Our Secondary He's a rook to I think he will and his game plans have been solid The obvious let downs on penalties, and teams nonsense have to go __________________ Goodbye Sean..........Vaya Con Dios thankyou Joe....... *“God made certain people to play football. He was one of them.” – Joe Gibbs*

09-23-2014, 08:10 PM	#55
SFREDSKIN Living Legend Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Pacifica, CA Posts: 15,164	Re: Our Secondary I personally like our young secondary, they'll be fine. They will have growing pains and success, a change needs to happen at some point. Amerson, Breeland, Minnifield, I wish Crawford was brought back. __________________ Joe Gibbs- The best coach of all time, Lombardi trophy should be renamed Gibbs. Art Monk- Art was like an OL playing WR, doing the dirty work and not getting the glory. Darrell Green- Best DB ever. Purveyor of fine Filth

09-23-2014, 08:11 PM	#56
saden1 MVP Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Seattle Age: 45 Posts: 10,069	Re: Our Secondary Bruce Allen thought the defense had no gaping holes. You guys should all stop panicking and have some faith! Oh wait, a mediocre corner went down and a mediocre safety was cut and replaced with a less mediocre safety. Eject! Eject! __________________ "The Redskins have always suffered from chronic organizational deformities under Snyder." -Jenkins

09-23-2014, 08:15 PM	#57
Hog1 Quietly Dominating the East Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Naples, Florida Posts: 10,675	Re: Our Secondary I think BA is......keenly aware what holes we have where __________________ Goodbye Sean..........Vaya Con Dios thankyou Joe....... *“God made certain people to play football. He was one of them.” – Joe Gibbs*

09-23-2014, 08:42 PM	#60
Bangee7 Impact Rookie Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Pa Posts: 697	Re: Our Secondary Hated to see the D Hall injury, but it definitely opens opportunities for the young guns. Also, Porter getting in should help out- he's always been solid. I'm OK with getting a good long look at Trenton Robinson as well. No better way for them to learn than to strap it on & get them out there. Hail!

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