Redskins vs Vikings Gameday thread

[Fiversons]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

I expected that performance by RG3, meh. Made a couple good plays (escape play to Helu, all the throws to DJax), and made a couple terrible ones (Int, last throw, holding the ball). He's rusty, like most would be.

The most aggrevating plays to me are when guys dont help him like the back to back drops by Alfmo and Garcon on the deep pass in the 3rd(?) quarter. We cant be dropping perfectly thrown balls.

There is plenty of blame to go around... I just don't have any confidence III will ever be the franchise QB we drafted him to be... I just don't see it and I don't see how anybody can come to a different conclusion at this point in his career is all I am saying... I was going to the Bucs game, but I am not spending a couple hundred dollars to watch this team lose games in the fashion they do...

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Fiversons

There is plenty of blame to go around... I just don't have any confidence III will ever be the franchise QB we drafted him to be... I just don't see it and I don't see how anybody can come to a different conclusion at this point in his career is all I am saying... I was going to the Bucs game, but I am not spending a couple hundred dollars to watch this team lose games in the fashion they do...

I think Cooley said it best these last eight games, need RG3 to be really good or really bad. Make the decision easy.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

I think Cooley said it best these last eight games, need RG3 to be really good or really bad. Make the decision easy.

Hard to argue with that

[Avinash_Tyagi]

You can't pin this loss on Griffin

Yes he had a couple of bad throws, but it was our poor O-line and Defense that really lost it for us

Originally Posted by Fiversons

There is plenty of blame to go around... I just don't have any confidence III will ever be the franchise QB we drafted him to be... I just don't see it and I don't see how anybody can come to a different conclusion at this point in his career is all I am saying... I was going to the Bucs game, but I am not spending a couple hundred dollars to watch this team lose games in the fashion they do...

I disagree,

behind an O-line that can buy him a few seconds, RG3 could be a great QB

Our O-line though is too porous

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

I've been reading these non-stop rants of yours and your twin CASkins for two days now and, believe me, it is tiresome at this point. I'm sure you've made your point with everyone by now. RGIII is probably our QB for the rest of the season and there's nothing you can do about it, so try to deal with it.

And our defense is our defense for the rest of the year so deal with that. Non stop rants my ass. Why dont you read what i say and try to talk about it like an adult instead of just writing it off as a "rant". Basically all i have said about Griff is he crumbled during crunch time at the end of each half and that he held the ball too long. A number of others have said the same. I expect more from a #2 pick that we mortgaged our future for. Excuse time is over. I gave Griff credit for every nice throw he made in the game. I have said over and over that I HOPE that Griff becomes the guy. If my opinion is that he wont be the guy and that upsets you than block me or go fishing or something.

[Fiversons]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

I think Cooley said it best these last eight games, need RG3 to be really good or really bad. Make the decision easy.

Agreed 100%, too bad it usually is never this cut and dry... And just FYI, Cooley is still the man...

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Avinash_Tyagi

You can't pin this loss on Griffin

Yes he had a couple of bad throws, but it was our poor O-line and Defense that really lost it for us



I disagree,

behind an O-line that can buy him a few seconds, RG3 could be a great QB

Our O-line though is too porous

Fair or not, as the franchise QB, the meal ticket, Griffin is going to get some blame for losses. The INT was awful as was the 4th down incompletion at the end of the game

[Fiversons]

Originally Posted by punch it in

And our defense is our defense for the rest of the year so deal with that. Non stop rants my ass. Why dont you read what i say and try to talk about it like an adult instead of just writing it off as a "rant". Basically all i have said about Griff is he crumbled during crunch time at the end of each half and that he held the ball too long. A number of others have said the same. I expect more from a #2 pick that we mortgaged our future for. Excuse time is over. I gave Griff credit for every nice throw he made in the game. I have said over and over that I HOPE that Griff becomes the guy. If my opinion is that he wont be the guy and that upsets you than block me or go fishing or something.

Punch, you will have to learn as I have that when we point out the obvious regarding III, we will be attacked... Some people, and I don't know if he is one, will defend the guy and already have pre-made excuses... He is simply not anywhere close to living up to what we paid for him...

[Fiversons]

Originally Posted by Avinash_Tyagi

You can't pin this loss on Griffin

Yes he had a couple of bad throws, but it was our poor O-line and Defense that really lost it for us



I disagree,

behind an O-line that can buy him a few seconds, RG3 could be a great QB

Our O-line though is too porous

The O-Line does suck, but so what? What has he done that would make you believe he is our long term answer at QB?

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Fiversons

There is plenty of blame to go around... I just don't have any confidence III will ever be the franchise QB we drafted him to be... I just don't see it and I don't see how anybody can come to a different conclusion at this point in his career is all I am saying... I was going to the Bucs game, but I am not spending a couple hundred dollars to watch this team lose games in the fashion they do...

Oh man, are you trying to pick a fight with Tshile?

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

I think Cooley said it best these last eight games, need RG3 to be really good or really bad. Make the decision easy.

So true.

[Avinash_Tyagi]

Originally Posted by OnceWeWereKings

Egh. Double Egh. Griff looked like there was no rust in the first quarter and regressed throughout the game with flashes of competence after the first. My question since the "he needs time to develope" shtick came about is this: how much time is too much? We are on year 3 now. Year one looked good...but so far 2 and 3 aren't going so well.....
Defense looked good for the first quarter and a half...then seemed to abandon the blitz?? I saw the dbs in zone after amerson and Breeland showed early they could man up. Wtf. Looked like prevent d in the second half. Egh!!!!!!
Our entire team looks lost for the most part. It's a fucking shame.

He looked great when the O-line actually created some sort of line, looked bad when they let Minnesota defenders fly right by.

I wouldn't think it was possible, but our o-line looks even worse without Polumbus playing

[diehardskin2982]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Call to start Robert Griffin III of Washington Redskins came from top - ESPN





Smoot's prophecy appears to be true.

This is the article I believe that Gruden called amateurish.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Fiversons

Punch, you will have to learn as I have that when we point out the obvious regarding III, we will be attacked... Some people, and I don't know if he is one, will defend the guy and already have pre-made excuses... He is simply not anywhere close to living up to what we paid for him...

He has the rest of the season to stay healthy and play out of his mind or damn close to it. I hope to hell he does because otherwise....ugghhh. Him simply becoming a decent to good qb is not worth what we gave up to get him.

[Avinash_Tyagi]

Originally Posted by Fiversons

The O-Line does suck, but so what? What has he done that would make you believe he is our long term answer at QB?

No one will be our long term answer at QB with our current O-line

you're in fact asking the wrong question.

Its not about QB, its about the lines.

Have weak O and D lines and you will never be a winning team.

I don't care if you have Joe Montana, Steve Young, Tom Brady, Peyton Manning all rolled into one back there, without a good O-line to defend, you'll still lose.