All Arrington All The Time (Mega Merge Club Mix)

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by #56fanatic

He is getting paid what Danny agreed to pay him. there was no negotiation. If someone wanted to pay you 10 million to pick up trash, would you do it? right! What I was reading earlier, they could take to roster bonus, make it guaranteed money and stretch it over the length of the contract. Making the amount a little smaller per year. We are eventually going to come to this problem with all the big names we have on our team. Portis, will have the same problems in the next couple of years. Springs signed a big deal for a guy 30 years old. Was spings worth a 10 million signing bonus? Is any of these guys "worth" all the money they get paid. What I am saying is, once in a blue moon does a guy with the athletic ability, the on the field and off the field persona of a LaVar Arrington come along. He loves the fans and basically was going to let the 6.5 million dispute go away, but the Players union wouldn't let it. He said last year if Dan Snyder and the Redskins ever decide to let him go or say they wanted to trade him he would retire. He does not want to wear another uniform, he want to be a redskins for LIFE. In todays world of sports, that is a very refreshing statement and one that sticks with me when i hear these guys demaning trades, demanding contract extensions, release me all this crap. LaVar is "THE MAN!!!"

LaVar is the man!! And can I say, that I'm starting to believe that it is total bullshit when athletes say that I'm this or that for life. Bull....they are only "Redskins or anything else for life", based on the most current contract that they have.

You can only say someone is a Redskin for life if they start and finish as a Redskin. Look at the 80's rosters, those guys are Skins for life. Joe Gibbs is a Redskin for life!!! Unlike his NFC counterpart Bill Parcells - who himself is a contract and media whore!!

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by #56fanatic

He is getting paid what Danny agreed to pay him. there was no negotiation. If someone wanted to pay you 10 million to pick up trash, would you do it? right! What I was reading earlier, they could take to roster bonus, make it guaranteed money and stretch it over the length of the contract. Making the amount a little smaller per year. We are eventually going to come to this problem with all the big names we have on our team. Portis, will have the same problems in the next couple of years. Springs signed a big deal for a guy 30 years old. Was spings worth a 10 million signing bonus? Is any of these guys "worth" all the money they get paid. What I am saying is, once in a blue moon does a guy with the athletic ability, the on the field and off the field persona of a LaVar Arrington come along. He loves the fans and basically was going to let the 6.5 million dispute go away, but the Players union wouldn't let it. He said last year if Dan Snyder and the Redskins ever decide to let him go or say they wanted to trade him he would retire. He does not want to wear another uniform, he want to be a redskins for LIFE. In todays world of sports, that is a very refreshing statement and one that sticks with me when i hear these guys demaning trades, demanding contract extensions, release me all this crap. LaVar is "THE MAN!!!"

Great post. I also hope the probs with Lavar can be worked out and get him on the field! I would like to know what the real deal is? Wait and see

[EXoffender]

Do these "face of the franchise" players understand that this is where a huge contract gets them?

[#56fanatic]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

I forgot to add 56: I agree we have a some overachievers on our defense. Thanks to Gregg Williams and his staff. But I will disagree that most are average players. It could be argued that many NFL teams, forget about the NFC, many NFL teams would love to have: C.Griffin, Sean Taylor, Shawn Springs, Marcus Washington, Carlos Rogers down the road, hell I'll even throw in Joe Salave'a. No he's no super star, but he plays great within the system, and I would say could compliment most DTs very well in the league right now. That's more than half of the defense.

In my opinion, every team has about half dozen or so players on either side of the ball that are products of good coaching and the "system", if you will. Jeremiah Trotter is a very good example of someone who is a Pro Bowler with the right team.

So while you say that we have average players, in that case who doesn't??

your right, alot of teams do have average players. Sean Taylor, Marcus Washingt, Griffin, Springs, are not average. Taylor, washington, griffin, and springs all should have gone to the probowl last year. What I am saying is Greg Williams, a great coach, has a pretty big ego. And I have a feeling that with all the LaVar issues in the offseason, he is saying I can make a great D without LaVar. i would hope this isn't the case. But I have heard that Williams does have to turn sideways to get his head through the doors at Redskins Park!

[firstdown]

Williams is the man and I think he is just waiting for the right game to unleash Lavar. Lavar is talking alot about how he will do what the coaches want of him and if what we have seen is all we are going to see of Lavar he would not be this patient. I would think as he gets more time in pratice he will be worked into more schemes and he will see more playing time. Money is not a factor its about what the coaches feel is best for the team just like the Brunell situation and we see how thats turned out.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by #56fanatic

your right, alot of teams do have average players. Sean Taylor, Marcus Washingt, Griffin, Springs, are not average. Taylor, washington, griffin, and springs all should have gone to the probowl last year. What I am saying is Greg Williams, a great coach, has a pretty big ego. And I have a feeling that with all the LaVar issues in the offseason, he is saying I can make a great D without LaVar. i would hope this isn't the case. But I have heard that Williams does have to turn sideways to get his head through the doors at Redskins Park!

Honestly, I think it's little bit of money coming into play here, a little bit of LaVar getting into the schemes, and I'm willing to bet that teams have already inquired about LaVar's services.

[diehardskin2982]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Williams is the man and I think he is just waiting for the right game to unleash Lavar. Lavar is talking alot about how he will do what the coaches want of him and if what we have seen is all we are going to see of Lavar he would not be this patient. I would think as he gets more time in pratice he will be worked into more schemes and he will see more playing time. Money is not a factor its about what the coaches feel is best for the team just like the Brunell situation and we see how thats turned out.

Thats why I feel it's not an issue of coaching at all but an issue with the ownership

[#56fanatic]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

Honestly, I think it's little bit of money coming into play here, a little bit of LaVar getting into the schemes, and I'm willing to bet that teams have already inquired about LaVar's services.

I think Pittsburg will be one the ones willing to give up a draft pick to two. And I was reading San Diego would also be interested. But who wouldn't be. Getting a guy of his ability(if healthy) in his prime. And especially with all this crap going on, coming back with not just a chip on his shoulder, but a big ass pine tree on his shoulder. I do believe he will end up in Pittsburg. He is a homer and thats where he is from. If its not washington, then pittsburg is where he will be.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by diehardskin2982

Thats why I feel it's not an issue of coaching at all but an issue with the ownership

Are you saying Danny does not want Lavar on the field and the coaches are going along and you think the same was true with brunell and Ramsey?

[MTK]

I really don't think this has anything to do with Snyder at all.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I really don't think this has anything to do with Snyder at all.

I agree with you but if it did I would be very dispointed in our coaching staff.

[#56fanatic]

Originally Posted by firstdown

I agree with you but if it did I would be very dispointed in our coaching staff.

If anything, I believe Danny wants LaVar on the field. You have to remember, Danny was a diehard Redskin fan before he struck it rich and bought them. If this was anyother coaching staff, he would have already demanded LaVar be on the field. In a way, I wish he would step in and say to play him.

[RedskinRat]

It's too easy to use the same 'Dan Snyder ruined the Redskins' excuse. If we have gained anything with the re-hire of Coach Gibbs it's that Dan has taken a back seat to Gibbs.

I'd guess at a Lavar Vs. Williams ego clash. Lavar has a problem playing outside of his instictive style, Williams needs him to to perform within the framework.

When the circumstances dictate (i.e. we're looking to take a QB out of his rhythm, Mr. Plummer) Lavar will be let loose, lord help the poor bugger on the end of THAT storm.

[MTK]

Snyder and Arrington are supposedly very tight, I'm not sure how the whole contract dispute thing may have hurt their relationship, but LaVar was a pallbearer at Snyder's father's funeral if that tells you anything.

[diehardskin2982]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Are you saying Danny does not want Lavar on the field and the coaches are going along and you think the same was true with brunell and Ramsey?

I don't think the same about brunnel or Ramsey at all. That was a coaching issue.
Lavar on the other hand has blasted the team in the past in the media.
Had a dirty dispute with the team over 6.5 million dollars.
Lavar has a hefty contract and the less time he has on the field the more money the team saves.

Because of that preseason game were Willams was able to use Arrington well, I think those whole thing about him not being able to "fit" into schemes is just smoke and mirrors.