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[That Guy]

NFL | More on Young at Pro Day
Wed, 22 Mar 2006 16:25:01 -0800

Charean Williams, of the Fort Worth Star-Telegram, reports Texas QB Vince Young threw 55 passes with five incomplete and one drop during his Pro Day workout Wednesday, March 22. Young worked out with four wide receivers - Texas WRs David Thomas, Ahmard Hall, Brian Carter and former high school teammate and Idaho WR Daniel Smith. Young also caught one pass on a trick play. "I feel like I did a good job," said Young. "I stayed relaxed, poised and had fun. You hear so much that 'Vince is not working out. Vince is not doing this and that.' I wanted to go out and show them that I am working out."

he did do some work from under center (vs shotgun, which Texas ran nearly 90% of the time this year). Obviouly, this was done without a defense bearing down on him.

[Hail2theskins]

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Young, Vick fail under pressure



By Todd McShay
Scouts Inc.
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The official scores from the Wonderlic Tests taken at the combine were released. As usual, there were some interesting results. Texas QB Vince Young did indeed take the test twice. The league has been tight-lipped regarding his first score, but the higher score of his two attempts was a 15. Young's score was bad, but not the worst of this year's quarterback class. That honor goes to Virginia Tech's Marcus Vick, who scored an 11 on the test.
A perfect score is 50, and the highest score any player posted in this year's class was a 41 (Oklahoma DT Dusty Dvoracek). The lowest score of this year's class was an eight (Syracuse DE Kader Drame, Alabama ILB Freddie Roach, Louisville DT Montavious Stanley, N.C. State TE T.J. Williams and Oklahoma DC Chijioke Onyenegecha), and the average score of all the quarterbacks was a 24.6.
The Wonderlic Personnel Test (WPT) is a short-form intelligence test that measures players' ability to think on their feet, follow directions and make effective decisions under pressure. While Young and Vick exposed their weaknesses in those areas, other quarterbacks shined. Grambling's Bruce Eugene (41), Montana State's Travis Lulay (37), USC's Matt Leinart (35) and Oregon's Kellen Clemens (35) all posted impressive scores.
Prospects at other positions who excelled include Ohio State OC Nick Mangold (35), Tulsa TE/FB Garrett Mills (35), Oregon LB Keith Ellison (36), Cal-Poly State DE Chris Gocong (36), Cornell OL Kevin Boothe (37), Virginia WR Marques Hagans (37), Stanford DT Babatunde Oshinowo (37) and Boston College OT Jeremy Trueblood (37).
Others didn't fare so well, such as Penn State DC Alan Zemaitis (9), Marshall DC Chris Hawkins (10), Miami DE Javon Nanton (10), South Carolina DS Ko Simpson (10), Central Missouri State WR Delanie Walker (10), Syracuse DE James Wyche (10), LSU WR/RS Skyler Green (11), Tennessee DB Jason Allen (11), Clemson DE Charles Bennett (11), Abilene Christian DB Danieal Manning (12), Texas Tech DS Dwayne Slay (12), South Florida RB Andre Hall (13), Pittsburgh DC Josh Lay (13), UCLA TE Marcedes Lewis (13), Mississippi State RB Jerious Norwood (13) and Tarleton State RB Derrick Ross (13).

Pro Days Report

The two most recent Pro Days were held at Florida State and UCLA on March 16th. The overall speed and athleticism of Florida State's prospects is impressive. Leading the charge was DC Antonio Cromartie, who missed all of last season with a knee injury, but elected to leave school early. There are still questions regarding his rustiness, durability and technique, but Cromartie's physical tools are outstanding. After running two 40-yard dashes in the 4.3-range and notching 42 inches on the vertical jump, Cromartie could sneak into the latter portion of the first round. OLB Ernie Sims (5-foot-11, 234 pounds) and DE Kamerion Wimbley (6-4, 248 pounds) also impressed. Sims ran a 40-yard dash in the 4.4's, and Wimbley ran the short shuttle in 4.41 seconds.
TE Marcades Lewis was one of the players who helped his stock the most at UCLA's Pro Day, as he posted impressive times in the short shuttle (4.53) and long shuttle (12.62). Lewis also notched 22 reps on the standard 225-pound bench. Unfortunately, his below average speed and suspect blocking skills may prevent him from being selected in the first round. RB Maurice Drew, satisfied with his impressive times at the combine, participated only in the position drills. QB Drew Olson threw the ball well during passing drills, but his performance in the 40-yard dash (5.19) did not help his cause.
Other notable schools that hosted Pro Days this week include Alabama, Oregon State and South Carolina. At Alabama, OLB DeMeco Ryans helped his draft value by improving on his 40-yard dash times from the combine (4.69 and 4.72). He posted times of 4.64 and 4.65 this time around, while also displaying impressive quickness and instincts during position drills.
QB Brodie Croyle did not run, but was nearly flawless during his passing drills, impressing scouts in attendance with his arm strength and accuracy. ILB Freddie Roach did not help his cause by posting 40-yard dash times of 4.88 and 4.87, while only churning out 18 reps on the 225-pound bench press.
The Oregon State Pro Day was failry unimpressive. WR Mike Hass will likely still be a late-Day 1 or early-Day 2 prospect, but running the 40-yard dash in the 4.6-range did not help his cause. LBs Trent Bray (6-3, 227) and Keith Ellison (6-2, 230) were also uninspiring. Bray posted two miserable 40-yard dash times of 4.90 and 4.89, while Ellison ran in the 4.7-range. For undersized linebacker prospects, those times are especially damaging.
South Carolina's Pro Day provided some positive feedback. DC Jonathan Joseph and DS Ko Simpson both kept their excellent workout numbers from the combine, but impressed with their agility and quickness during position drills. However, the rest of the group was uninspiring. Most notably, RB/FB Daccus Turman ran the 40-yard dash in the 4.9-range and OT Jabary Levey pulled his hamstring during his run, which was timed at 6.01 seconds. Levey will run later in the month once he has healed.
Most scouts I've spoken to agree the most impressive Pro Day so far took place in Columbus, Ohio, where Ohio State prospects such as OLBs A.J. Hawk and Bobby Carpenter, DSs Donte Whitner and Nate Salley, WR Santonio Holmes, DC Ashton Youboty, ILB Anthony Schlegel and OT Rob Simms all turned in strong performances. The Ohio State track is notoriously fast, which is why NFL teams typically add one-tenth of a second to each of the 40-yard dash times.
Regardless, the 40-yard dash times turned in by Hawk (4.44), Holmes (4.34), Whitner (4.39) and Youboty (4.41) were excellent. Carpenter didn't display tremendous straight-line speed in the 40, but impressed scouts with his fluidity and athleticism in agility drills, and during his position drills. Hawk, Holmes, Youboty, Carpenter and Whitner could all come off the board in the first round of the upcoming draft.
Below is a schedule of upcoming Pro Days. I will continue to update the players helping and hurting their draft stock the most over the course of the next few weeks.

[That Guy]

NFL | Ferguson works out at Pro Day
Wed, 22 Mar 2006 18:37:03 -0800

Gil Brandt, of NFL.com, reports Virginia OL D'Brickashaw Ferguson measured a height of 6-5 7/8 and a weight of 305 pounds. He ran the 40-yard dash with times of 5.09 seconds and 5.07 seconds, while running the short shuttle in 4.89 seconds and the three-cone drill in 7.64 seconds. Ferguson did slip on both of his runs due to the hard surface. He also measured a 30-inch vertical jump and an 8-foot-11 long jump.

very good times, his drills that i've seen have been great too.

[That Guy]

Bengals | Assistant coach has Norwood work out
Thu, 23 Mar 2006 20:19:07 -0800

Gil Brandt, of NFL.com, reports Mississippi State RB Jerious Norwood worked out for a Cincinnati Bengals assistant coach at his Pro Day.

NFL | C. McNeil works out at Pro Day
Thu, 23 Mar 2006 20:20:48 -0800

Gil Brandt, of NFL.com, reports Mississippi State OG Chris McNeil measured a height of 6-3 1/4 and a weight of 307 pounds at his Pro Day. He ran the 40-yard dash in 5.00 seconds and 5.01 seconds while completing the short shuttle in 4.57 seconds and the three-cone drill in 7.81 seconds. He had a 31 1/2-inch vertical jump and an 8-foot broad jump. McNeil completed 35 repetitions on the 225-pound bench press.

[That Guy]

Ravens | Team will meet privately with V. Young on April 3
Thu, 23 Mar 2006 20:23:05 -0800

Jamison Hensley, of the Baltimore Sun, reports the Baltimore Ravens will meet with Texas QB Vince Young on April 3. The team will meet with him at their training complex where they can talk with him at length, but will not conduct a private workout with him. The team currently does not plan on scheduling him to workout in private.


interesting...

[That Guy]

NFL | A. Hodge does some work at Pro Day
Thu, 23 Mar 2006 22:55:35 -0800

Gil Brandt, of NFL.com, reports Iowa LB Abdul Hodge measured a height of 6-0 3/8 and a weight of 233 pounds at his Pro Day. He ran the 40-yard dash with times of 4.69 seconds and 4.66 seconds while completing 25 repetitions on the 225-pound bench press. He stood on the rest of his numbers from the NFL Combine.


NFL | Greenway works out at Pro Day
Thu, 23 Mar 2006 22:54:50 -0800

Gil Brandt, of NFL.com, reports Iowa LB Chad Greenway (hamstring) measured a height of 6-2 3/8 and a weight of 240 pounds at his Pro Day. He ran the 40-yard dash with times of 4.58 seconds and 4.62 seconds, but strained his hamstring and was unable to run the shuttles. He had a 38-inch vertical jump and a 10-foot broad jump while completing 19 repetitions on the 225-pound bench press.

[That Guy]

Maroney's results
Minnesota RB Laurence Maroney worked out March 23 on campus. Maroney (6-0 1/8, 215) ran indoors on FieldTurf. He ran one 40 -- times were anywhere from 4.47 to 4.49 -- then passed on the second because of a strained hamstring. He did not run the shuttles or the three-cone drill. He had a 35½-inch vertical jump, a 10-foot-3 broad jump and 21 bench presses. Maroney did not participate in Minnesota's Pro Day on March 6 due to a strained hamstring.

[That Guy]

Eagles | Team meets with Fantuz
Fri, 24 Mar 2006 07:46:52 -0800

Morris Dalla Costa, of the London Free Press reports the Philadelphia Eagles met with Canadian NFL draft prospect WR Andy Fantuz last week. Whether he'll be picked in the NFL draft beginning April 29 is something agent Hadley Engelhard won't speculate on. He may also go No. 1 in the CFL draft April 20. "He did quite well working out," said Engelhard. "During his week at the East-West Shrine Game, he proved he's able to play NFL-style football. He picked things up quickly. The terminology wasn't a problem. The route running wasn't a problem."

#1 CFL pick = NFL camp scrub

[TheMalcolmConnection]

I think Maroney and DeAngelo are the only two RBs out of this draft class to really make a huge impact. Bush will be above average, but won't be the "once-in-a-lifetime" player he is being touted as.

[That Guy]

NFL | Hunter's Pro Day results
Fri, 24 Mar 2006 09:08:28 -0800

Joe Flanagan, of BTI Sports Advisors, has confirmed to KFFL Miami (Ohio) CB Darrell Hunter ran a time of 4.28 and 4.36 seconds at his team's Pro Day workout Thursday, March 23.

sub 4.3, how bout that? regardless of how good or bad he may be, that'll definately move him up quite a ways.

[That Guy]

Darrell Hunter, CB, Miami (OHIO)

Name: Darrell Hunter
College: Miami (OHIO) Number: 28
Height: 6-0 Weight: 206
Position: CB Pos2:
Class/Draft Year: Sr/2006
40 Time: 4.44
Projected Round: 4-5 Stock:
Rated number 20 out of 171 CB's 155 / 1737 TOTAL

Combine Results
Combine Invite? Yes
Height: 5117
Weight: 206
40 Yrd Dash: 4.44
20 Yrd Dash: 2.63
10 Yrd Dash: 1.58
Wonderlic:
225 Lb. Bench Reps: 08
Vertical Jump: 36
Broad Jump: 10'3"
20 Yrd Shuttle: 4.14
3-Cone Drill:

now he has a 4.28 and 4.36 40 time.
2005 stat line: 41 tackles (33 solo) 2 ints, 1 FR, 2FF, 3PD, 1 sack

the problem, of course, is that when your 40 time varies by that much, you have to wonder which number is accurate. has anyone actually seen this guy play? is he any good?

[That Guy]

NFL | Stinson's Pro Day results
Fri, 24 Mar 2006 09:14:12 -0800

Raymond Savage, of Savage Sports Management, has confirmed to KFFL Jackson State OT Albert Stinson measured in at 6-5 1/4 and weighed 331 pounds, along with an arm length of 32 3/8 and a hand length of 10 1/8 at his team's Pro Day workout Wednesday, March 22. Stinson ran the 40-yard dash in a time of 5.20 and 5.23 seconds, 1.83 and 1.89 seconds in the 10-yard dash, had a short shuttle time of 4.70 and a 8.05 time in the three-cone drill. He also had a 26 1/2-inch vertical jump, a long jump of 8 feet and had 28 bench presses.

decent showing for a big guy. He'll still probably go undrafted.

[That Guy]

NFL | Avant's Pro Day results
Fri, 24 Mar 2006 14:42:26 -0800

Gil Brandt, of NFL.com, reports Michigan WR Jason Avant (hand) measured a height of 6-0 1/2 and a weight of 209 pounds at his Pro Day. He ran the 40-yard dash twice with a time of 4.80 seconds, but it is possible the cast on his hand hurt his performance. He will run the 40-yard dash again in the near future. He ran the short shuttle in 4.19 seconds and the three-cone drill in 7.02 seconds while measuring a 35 1/2-inch vertical jump and a 10-foot-4 broad jump.

4.80 = OUCH. we'll see how he does on his re-do.

[That Guy]

Saints | Team dined with M. Williams
Jets | Team to visit with M. Williams
49ers | Team wants to visit with M. Williams

the upshot: Mario williams will not fall below the #6 pick. Not that he was ever expected to.

[That Guy]

NFL | D. Williams' Pro Day results
Fri, 24 Mar 2006 18:29:52 -0800

Gil Brandt, of NFL.com, reports Memphis RB DeAngelo Williams measured 5-9 and weighed 207 pounds at his Pro Day workout Friday, March 24. He had an exceptional workout. He ran his 40s in 4.40 seconds (with the wind) and 4.48 (against). He was wearing nubs, and he ran outdoors on a rubber track. He also ran the short shuttle in 4.10, the three-cone drill in 6.57 and the long shuttle in 10.61. In addition, he had a 34½-inch vertical jump and a 10-foot-9 broad jump. He caught the ball well during positional drills.

nothing surprising, which is good since he's already a first rounder.