It's not Brunell's fault!

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by hesscl34

It's not Brunell, at all..

Sorry Skins. It's all about TEAM. And our TEAM isn't playing well. To be honest, I think it's ego. We are up at the 1/2, our guys feel good and they let it go. Time and Time again. It's all about thought, and these guys believe they are great so when they are up they let down and think it's a cake walk and we lose = Titans = Vikings.

wow, time to put down the pom-poms. "it's not brunell AT ALL"???. Wrong answer. no throws deep = 10 in the box = no running or screen game. Either he can't throw long or he won't, but strictly horizontal offenses don't work in the NFL.

defense and OL played horribly too, but even with that, it's time for brunell to go back home now.



and it's not ego, it's lack of talent or bad playcalling (or both, your choice). they were LUCKY to be up, lucky to get a return TD, and lucky that they didn't get bombed to death earlier.

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by mike340

Gee, I seem to remember Peyton's was lower. Since you bring this up, and I don't have the videotape, could someone please post the corresponding stat(s) for Peyton, i.e. attempts, completions, and hurries. Thanks.

after the first half it was the same. peyton's better and the colt's DL is better, but honestly, if not for garbage time, brunell would have had another 160 yard game. People around here act like facing a good DE is an automatic excuse for brunell, even though plenty of other teams are able to cope, it's somehow okay that our QB can't. yes, the OL wasn't great, but seriously, less koolaid please, he's just not that good.

[dmek25]

those 5 yard passes were pretty obvious yasterday when even aikman was wondering out loud about them. 3 steps and the ball comes out isnt going to win alot of games in the nfl.

[irish]

The only thing that makes MBs stats look even half way decent is all the garbage time yards he picked up. It isnt all MBs fault. The fault lies with the overpaid and over aged coaches that cant seem to find a way to make the system work with the players they have. The fault also lies with the front office that signs players onl to find out later they cant do what the coaches need them to do.

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by Grim21Reaper

I agree that Samuels is overrated but he is no worse than a top 5 tackle. Archuletta is garbage. Unfortunately, we are stuck with them for a while. I would like to see Archuletta benched, at least we will find out if the guy has any pride.

In all fairness to Samuels I thought the coaching staff should have found a way to give him some help with Freeney knowing he has problems with speed rushers. It not like they don't know, so some help should have been there.

I'm not going to talk about Brunell anymore because everything that can be said about him has already been said ,except for the fact we have nine more games to talk about him some more.

[SmootSmack]

Bring back Bill Musgrave!!!!

[Twilbert07]

What's Brunell's starting record during his three years with the Redskins? Even with last year's 9-6 (he didn't start the first game), he has a losing record. That's the bottom line: He is a losing QB who has lost the ability to make plays every game.

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by TAFKAS

Bring back Bill Musgrave!!!!

he seems to have helped vick this year. i'd say he's pretty good.

[Twilbert07]

Originally Posted by That Guy

he seems to have helped vick this year. i'd say he's pretty good.

I agree. Living down here in Atlanta, the Falcons' fans are split between loving and hating Vick. But, hell, he makes plays and wins games like yesterday against the Steelers. Makes me envious at times.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by mike340

Another thing that's happened this year is that Saunders's system doesn't allow for many audibles at the line of scrimmage. Brunell did that (I believe effectively) in prior years. As you saw, Peyton changed many plays at the line of scrimmage. As it is, there is now no way to adjust a play for the defensive set. This has got to make life harder for the offense.

The offense is averaging 20 points/game. 21/game two years ago would have gone 13-2-1. But our defense is allowing 26/game!
Who has allowed more total points than we have(171)? The Jets, Lions, and 49ers. That's it!
To contrast, at Denver's current rate, their defense would take 1 1/2 years to yield 171 points.

All good points. As far as MB this week, I'm not sure what you (the Warpath collective) would want from him? More deep incompletions? Is that what makes a great QB? Let's see who can throw down the field out of the reach of everyone. Then the D will really respect us! Sadly, this is really what some of you want.

Brunell went down the field twice in the first half, completed one, and the other seemed like a pretty good throw that Santana almost got to. I think we were all victim of some questionable third down playcalling in the 3rd Quarter.

The guy is averageing OVER 7 yards an attempt (7.11 yards/attempt) on the year with less than a pick every two games. (For comparisons sake: Peyton Manning 7.87, Tom Brady 6.49, Jake Delhomme 6.62, Drew Bledsoe 6.71, Brett Favre 6.22) Hell, with those stats, I'd throw every play if I didn't have CP in the backfield.

So why throw down the field anymore than they are? If the offense is based on safe passes (which it is), and the goal of the offense is to move the ball efficently (which they have been doing), why the hell is a lack of fly routes a problem?

There is a lot to like about the offense from this game. Cooley appears to be reemerging. Brunell is spreading the ball, as Randle El, Moss, Lloyd, Betts, Portis, and Cooley all caught multiple passes. They go up and down the field with relative ease. I think the OLine struggled in the 2nd half and Brunell got beat up.

But if 73% completion and an interceptionless game doesn't satisfy you, then I mean WHAT THE HELL WOULD?

[GTripp0012]

Oh and to answer the thread topic question:

It's not Brunell's fault because...see for yourself

NFL.com - Mark Brunell

[T.A.P.O.A.F.O.R.]

Originally Posted by That Guy

no throws deep = 10 in the box = no running or screen game. Either he can't throw long or he won't, but strictly horizontal offenses don't work in the NFL.

watching the game, that's what hurt the most. i thought portis was playing well given what he had. what he had was everyone up on the line. 3/4 of the way through the game my roommate (a pats fan who rarely watches redskins games) comments, "holy crap. does he ever throw it more than 5 yards?"

[Dogtag]

Yeah, its Brunnl's fault. Let's go break his legs. Why can't he cover the oher team's recievers. And the field goals he has missed recently. He is not very good at stopping the run either. And have you noticed how he cant block the defensive line. One would hope he could call his own plays better.

[Hog1]

At a cursory glance at the numbers, it seems MB is having a better year than most. As far as "garbage time", all QB's numbers are padded with a certain amount??? As stated earlier, it's a team sport and, and this team (with VERY few exceptions) shares the wealth. Can Brunell save us? No. Is it his fault? No------------Bring on JC. 2007 is NOW

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

All good points. As far as MB this week, I'm not sure what you (the Warpath collective) would want from him? More deep incompletions? Is that what makes a great QB? Let's see who can throw down the field out of the reach of everyone. Then the D will really respect us! Sadly, this is really what some of you want.

Brunell went down the field twice in the first half, completed one, and the other seemed like a pretty good throw that Santana almost got to. I think we were all victim of some questionable third down playcalling in the 3rd Quarter.

The guy is averageing OVER 7 yards an attempt (7.11 yards/attempt) on the year with less than a pick every two games. (For comparisons sake: Peyton Manning 7.87, Tom Brady 6.49, Jake Delhomme 6.62, Drew Bledsoe 6.71, Brett Favre 6.22) Hell, with those stats, I'd throw every play if I didn't have CP in the backfield.

So why throw down the field anymore than they are? If the offense is based on safe passes (which it is), and the goal of the offense is to move the ball efficently (which they have been doing), why the hell is a lack of fly routes a problem?

There is a lot to like about the offense from this game. Cooley appears to be reemerging. Brunell is spreading the ball, as Randle El, Moss, Lloyd, Betts, Portis, and Cooley all caught multiple passes. They go up and down the field with relative ease. I think the OLine struggled in the 2nd half and Brunell got beat up.

But if 73% completion and an interceptionless game doesn't satisfy you, then I mean WHAT THE HELL WOULD?

is this a joke? i really hope it is.

if you can't complete deep, no one is going to keep guys out of the box. you're mistaking stats for facts. the stats are nice, but they're garbage. without the last drive, he has 160 yards for the game. he kept throwing for 4 yards when he needed 8. he refuses to throw over the middle of the field. he refuses to throw deep. it looks like he's just out there to be out there. his numbers are more YAC inflated than most.


and no, qbs on bad teams rack up a LOT more garbage time stats on winning teams.