At what point would a skins fan be justified in calling for Gibbs' resignation?

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by hurrykaine

I understand the need for continuity in coaching staff and players, but our offense in Gibbs 2.0 has been pi$$ poor for the most part. We love Gibbs for what he accomplished in his first stint and honor him for it, but to not have an offensive identity (other than the 5yd dink and dump pass on 3rd and 13) for over two years is clearly Gibbs' fault. Gibbs can still manage people well, but what if this team fails to make the playoffs next year? Are we then justified in calling for his head? 4 years with a losing record in 3 of them and a bunch of aging overpaid vets is reason enough to get anybody canned.

Gibbs got all the players he wanted to make a championship run last year and this year. He picked an aging vet QB and stuck with him, negating all the young talent we have at WR and TE. Buges has underachieved with our offensive line.

He sure has picked a bunch of nice high character guys that won't implode on a team, but you can't claim that as a victory when the goal was to reach the super bowl. Brunell and others saying anything short of the super bowl this year would be a disappointment????!! What gave them the idea at the beginning of the year that we were going to be good enough to reach anywhere near the SB?

This is a great thread! Gibbs whole style since his return has been a conservative, play not to lose football. Throw 5 yard dink passes and hope the WR's can run after the catch. If I remember correctly his first go around he threw it downfield several times a game. So I'm not sure what the hell he is doing now. Plus his personel moves have not been very good. It's too early to talk about next year but it would be safe to say that this team needs to take a couple steps back before they can take one step forward. I say he gets the full five years on this contract.

[61cad]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

This is a great thread! Gibbs whole style since his return has been a conservative, play not to lose football. Throw 5 yard dink passes and hope the WR's can run after the catch. If I remember correctly his first go around he threw it downfield several times a game. So I'm not sure what the hell he is doing now. Plus his personel moves have not been very good. It's too early to talk about next year but it would be safe to say that this team needs to take a couple steps back before they can take one step forward. I say he gets the full five years on this contract.

How true! Great Post!

[That Guy]

I haven't soured on him, but he does seem to let too many other people make too many important decisions for him . if he's willing to oversee the rebuilding, I can go along with that... cutting vinny and getting a polian or pioli or wolf or beathard type to run the GM side of things would make me feel a lot better about the whole situation though... as well as cutting the fat on this staff.

[atomicnixon]

Joe Gibbs can go 3-13 this year and 0-16 next year, but you will never hear me call me for his resignation. If that unfortunate scenario was to happen, it would not be his fault, it would be Daniel Snyder.

You people who think that Joe Gibbs is a senile old man are crazy. It was just last year we went to the Divisional Round of the playoffs. Come on, lets be real. You cannot be a true fan if you are calling for Gibbs' resignation.

[GREENSTHEMAN]

Originally Posted by hurrykaine

I understand the need for continuity in coaching staff and players, but our offense in Gibbs 2.0 has been pi$$ poor for the most part. We love Gibbs for what he accomplished in his first stint and honor him for it, but to not have an offensive identity (other than the 5yd dink and dump pass on 3rd and 13) for over two years is clearly Gibbs' fault. Gibbs can still manage people well, but what if this team fails to make the playoffs next year? Are we then justified in calling for his head? 4 years with a losing record in 3 of them and a bunch of aging overpaid vets is reason enough to get anybody canned.

Gibbs got all the players he wanted to make a championship run last year and this year. He picked an aging vet QB and stuck with him, negating all the young talent we have at WR and TE. Buges has underachieved with our offensive line.

He sure has picked a bunch of nice high character guys that won't implode on a team, but you can't claim that as a victory when the goal was to reach the super bowl. Brunell and others saying anything short of the super bowl this year would be a disappointment????!! What gave them the idea at the beginning of the year that we were going to be good enough to reach anywhere near the SB?

I have a lot of respect for Joe as a person and a as a coach, I think given the receivers he has this year on the team, and if he remained as the coach calling the plays and if he had not brought Saunders into the team, who knows how the offense might have done this year.

However, I have seen the look in his face during games when the team has won and he reacts like the team just won the superbowl. When the games are really close and come down to a last play he reacts like the team is going to lose rather than showing enough confidence that the players are going to do their job and pull out a win.

I wonder if the players have picked up on that and they follow that lead??

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by atomicnixon

Joe Gibbs can go 3-13 this year and 0-16 next year, but you will never hear me call me for his resignation. If that unfortunate scenario was to happen, it would not be his fault, it would be Daniel Snyder.

You people who think that Joe Gibbs is a senile old man are crazy. It was just last year we went to the Divisional Round of the playoffs. Come on, lets be real. You cannot be a true fan if you are calling for Gibbs' resignation.

it's too bad you can't fire the owner .

calling gibbs senile is a bit crazy, but even though i wouldn't personally ask for his resignation, i don't think those that would aren't true fans. calling out fandom is a bit lame (true fans would give me $100. so are you a true fan or not?).

[jdlea]

I don't think that Gibbs is senile or crazy by any means. However, let's face the facts people, if his name were Steve Spurrier we'd be calling for his head. However, Joe Gibbs is a legend and as such he deserves to be treated accordingly. He deserves more chances than a guy like Spurrier. I'm sure that Gibbs is busting his ass right now trying to right the ship. That said, right now, it's not working. The team looks uninspired, that's the coach's fault. The team is making mental mistakes, that's on the coaches. However, that doesn't mean I think he should be fired or should resign. However, the guy deserves to finish his contract, but if all they have to show for 5 years is 1 playoff appearance, he shouldn't get a new one.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by TAFKAS

I'll be called a "yes man" for sure, but I really believe there are some people who have the right-however frustrating it may be for people-to decide when they want to leave. Dean Smith, Bobby Cox, Greg Popovich, Bobby Bowden, Joe Gibbs, to name a few.

I agree. Has Joe Gibbs not earned the right to leave at his own desire? Remember, we feel like he's made some mistakes this season right now, but in 365 days, he could be once again looking like the genius that he is. I prefer to reserve judgement on how well he's done this year until after its apparent whether or not his decisions have been right or wrong ones.