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Old 03-09-2007, 10:17 AM   #1
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Bram Weinstein: stay put at No. 6

Here's his two cents. He covers the Skins, I usually respect his opinion and this is definitely a different view.

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Old 03-09-2007, 10:25 AM   #2
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Re: Bram Weinstein: stay put at No. 6

Actually he makes the most sense. For the life of me, I don't get the fascination over Bly. If he's not a huge upgrade over what we have, and he isn't, why are we playing musical chairs with draft picks?

Just draft the damn guy we need on defense, and let the chips fall where they may.
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Old 03-09-2007, 10:26 AM   #3
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Re: Bram Weinstein: stay put at No. 6

Please please please read this Dan Snyder.
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Old 03-09-2007, 10:30 AM   #4
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Re: Bram Weinstein: stay put at No. 6

He makes a good point, but leaves out something crucial; the Skins are thus far not enamored w/G. Adams or A. Branch according to JLC. For that reason, they don't want to pay #6 money to a guy they can get at say #15, or the Broncos #21. Big difference in $ between those picks.

When looking at it that way, the Skins would benefit w/the pick & less cap for their top rookie. Plus, if Springs doesn't want to be here (who knows the real truth?) & Bly does, we get a corner who is at least equal plus 2 years younger.

I don't want to trade Springs & I have reservations about the Bly deal, but I'm at least encouraged that the front office is asking for more rather than giving everything to Denver.
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Old 03-09-2007, 10:46 AM   #5
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Re: Bram Weinstein: stay put at No. 6

Honestly, I don't think I agree. He kind of contradicts himself in saying, "Stop paying old players and build through the draft."

Ummm, isn't that exactly what they're doing if they make the Bly deal?
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Old 03-09-2007, 10:47 AM   #6
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Re: Bram Weinstein: stay put at No. 6

3 picks in the draft versus possibly 7 or 8? I would think that DRAFTING 7 or 8 players qualifies as building through the draft.

If we stay at six, that's all we get. We get no replacement for Dock, we get no other picks until the late rounds. The chances of those REALLY panning out are VERY slim.
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Re: Bram Weinstein: stay put at No. 6

If we get a 1st 2nd and 3rd I understand it. If we get a 1st and a 3rd we are a joke.
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Old 03-09-2007, 10:54 AM   #8
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Re: Bram Weinstein: stay put at No. 6

This article makes NO sense. Why pay a high bonus for someone unless you're dead sure they're going to be the second coming?

This team needs depth, we're not one stud player away. We need to build through more picks.
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Old 03-09-2007, 10:56 AM   #9
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Re: Bram Weinstein: stay put at No. 6

We have too many needs to stay put at #6. Denver seems hot and heavy about trading up so I say milk them for everything we can. Switching #1's with them and adding a 2nd and a 3rd would be huge. I really don't see what there is to hate about a deal like that.
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Re: Bram Weinstein: stay put at No. 6

f-ck Bly...we need to do a straight draft pick trade with Denver in which they compensate us according to the chart. That would mean all 4 of Denvers 1st day picks. Denver wants to toss Bly into the deal and overstate his value and rip us off in the process. If we get a 1st & 2nd and Bly for the 6th pick then we basically spent two 3rd round picks on a 30 year old CB! That trade is awful as reported!
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Re: Bram Weinstein: stay put at No. 6

As for Springs I find it funny that people are reluctant to part with him. I think Springs and Bly are in the same class of corner at this point in their careers but the big difference right now is Springs' inability to stay healthy.
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Re: Bram Weinstein: stay put at No. 6

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f-ck Bly...we need to do a straight draft pick trade with Denver in which they compensate us according to the chart. That would mean all 4 of Denvers 1st day picks. Denver wants to toss Bly into the deal and overstate his value and rip us off in the process. If we get a 1st & 2nd and Bly for the 6th pick then we basically spent two 3rd round picks on a 30 year old CB! That trade is awful as reported!
If Bly is in the deal they would have to add a 3rd rounder in addition to the 2nd and the swap of #1's.
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Old 03-09-2007, 11:03 AM   #13
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Re: Bram Weinstein: stay put at No. 6

I agree w/ a couple things but one crucial thing is being left off. SS won't take a paycut so his CAP # would be huge if we kept him. He won't restructure. Bly's deal might be a little more cap friendly, well at least for right now.

To get a quality, top cb in Bly and still have a 21st pick and a 2nd/3rd + a potential SS trade for a pick or two might be doable.

FWIW, i'm hoping SS & the skins can work something out. SS, Smoot, Rogers...I could live w/ that secondary.
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Old 03-09-2007, 11:05 AM   #14
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Re: Bram Weinstein: stay put at No. 6

it really depends on the deal. if the broncos give 1,2,3 + bly for the #6, and you can trade springs on top of that for another 2 or 3, then that still gives you a chance to trade up for okoye, or take carriker, as well as taking another DE (because of the great depth) or OG in the 2nd and an OG/TE/etc in the 3rd.

if the deal is only bly, pick 21, and a 3rd rounder, then no, it doesn't make sense, cause it's not a great offer.
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Old 03-09-2007, 11:06 AM   #15
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Re: Bram Weinstein: stay put at No. 6

The again, if we could hold on to Springs and draft a stud lineman, that could do wonders for our pass rush, and our secondary.

I tend to agree that we need to trade down, but I don't want to go crazy about getting Bly. He's really not that good, and If I can hold on to Springs, albeit an unhappy one, I think we could be in good shape.

But I guess Springs would stay healthy for a whole 5 games, so theres always that to consider.
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