Offensive line shakeup

Longtimefan · 09-23-2010, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

It was nice to see all the playaction, I feel like it's been a while since we've seen it used regularly.

Some of the play designs were pretty sweet too, the misdirection, throwing back across the field, nice to finally have an OC that knows what he's doing.

Imagine how much more effective those play action passes will be when we finally get the running game going. The plays we saw Sunday off play action were done with the minimal threat of a run. This offense will be down-right scary when the running game does come around.

Monkeydad · 09-23-2010, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by 2BIG2BSKINNY

Lichensteiger at one gaurd and Doc at the other than put Hicks at RT and Jamal Brown at Left... That is how I would do it...until Williams gets back!!!

Makes sense. Hicks can play RT, but Jamaal is our only other healthy LT-caliber lineman.

Heyer..go

sportscurmudgeon · 09-23-2010, 06:28 PM

Someone said here that he had never seen offensive linemen rotated during a game.

A coach named Paul Brown (RIP) - - you may have heard of him; if you go to Canton you can learn about him in the Hall of Fame - - used to rotate left guards on EVERY PLAY. They were "messenger guards" and that is how they brought the plays into the QBs.

Oh, the Browns won championships doing that.

Oh, one other thing, one of the "messenger guards" - - obviously getting in for only half of the offensive snaps - - was Gene Hickerson (RIP). If you visit Canton, you can learn all about him in the Hall of Fame too.

The Browns didn't use "messenger guards" because they were deficient on the offensive line. That is why it worked for them.

The Redskins rotate on the offensive lineman because neither of the guards in question stands out as a stud. That is why it only works sort of well for them.

DCtoAZ · 09-23-2010, 06:37 PM

Why does Will Montgomery #63 not get any love ? He's never dressed and I think at times he plays well.

saden1 · 09-23-2010, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

It was nice to see all the playaction, I feel like it's been a while since we've seen it used regularly.

Some of the play designs were pretty sweet too, the misdirection, throwing back across the field, nice to finally have an OC that knows what he's doing.

It really was nice...and the ball got to where it's suppose to go, to the receiver! The sad part is we have no running game for the Texans to bite on. There's a reason why McNabb has the second best TD to INT ratio of all time.

SirClintonPortis · 09-23-2010, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by saden1

It really was nice...and the ball got to where it's suppose to go, to the receiver! The sad part is we have no running game for the Texans to bite on. There's a reason why McNabb has the second best TD to INT ratio of all time.

Rodgers...deep balls all over the place...beating Checkdown Campbell...is itz possible-skis?

Lotus · 09-23-2010, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by sportscurmudgeon

Someone said here that he had never seen offensive linemen rotated during a game.

A coach named Paul Brown (RIP) - - you may have heard of him; if you go to Canton you can learn about him in the Hall of Fame - - used to rotate left guards on EVERY PLAY. They were "messenger guards" and that is how they brought the plays into the QBs.

Oh, the Browns won championships doing that.

Oh, one other thing, one of the "messenger guards" - - obviously getting in for only half of the offensive snaps - - was Gene Hickerson (RIP). If you visit Canton, you can learn all about him in the Hall of Fame too.

The Browns didn't use "messenger guards" because they were deficient on the offensive line. That is why it worked for them.

The Redskins rotate on the offensive lineman because neither of the guards in question stands out as a stud. That is why it only works sort of well for them.

Well done.

Back in the day before radio headsets in helmets, many teams used messenger guards to bring in the play call.

Dirtbag59 · 09-23-2010, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DCtoAZ

Why does Will Montgomery #63 not get any love ? He's never dressed and I think at times he plays well.

I think you answered your own question.

Mechanix544 · 09-23-2010, 07:27 PM

Montgomery sucks my nads..........

Monkeydad · 09-23-2010, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Mechanix544

Montgomery sucks my nads..........

Thread Hell, here we come.

Lotus · 09-23-2010, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Mechanix544

Montgomery sucks my nads..........

So he doesn't get any love, but you get his love?

CultBrennan59 · 09-24-2010, 12:17 AM

Montgomery is strictly a backup. He should never be starting a season for anyone, especially when I saw him play last year, how slow he was getting out of his stances, and how he would get driven into the backfield on run plays.

The only thing I give him is a pat on the back for making the squad this year.

artmonkforhallofamein07 · 09-24-2010, 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Lotus

So he doesn't get any love, but you get his love?

burn.... feel it....:cheeky-sm

#56fanatic · 09-24-2010, 10:50 AM

I am all for finding a combination of lineman that produce maximum results, however with this type of scheme there needs to be that cohesion and mixing and matching through out the game doesn't seem to be getting it done. The pass protection seems to be pretty decent all though McNabb has the ability to move around a quite bit more than what we are use to seeing. Hopefully as teams realize McNabb can shred them if they keep playing 8 in the box, it will open up some running lanes. It would just seem to me if Dockery is that much in question, then you replace him and let the other guy (forgot his name) play. From what I have seen of him he doesn't seem to be all that bad and this is with limited action in recent years. It would seem to reason with game reps and constant playing time he would end up being a pretty good lineman for Shanny. Brown is playing out of position. he is a probowler for a reason. He just has to adjust to playing a different side with different techniques. I dont think he has been horrible, pretty solid. The only thing i question is when they traded for him, why he wasn't moved to left and Trent play the right, which i thought was a more natural position for him coming out of college.

Dirtbag59 · 10-03-2010, 09:36 PM

Anyone know why Montgomery was out there today for Hicks?

Edit: Never mind

granthpaulsen
Artis Hicks was sick. He tried to play through it but couldn't. Shouldn't be a lingering issue for the #Redskins

MikeJonesTBD
Artis Hicks said in the locker room that he was feeling sick, and couldn't keep playing. He was disappointed, but relieved that the team won

09-23-2010, 06:28 PM	#48
sportscurmudgeon Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,159	Re: Offensive line shakeup Someone said here that he had never seen offensive linemen rotated during a game. A coach named Paul Brown (RIP) - - you may have heard of him; if you go to Canton you can learn about him in the Hall of Fame - - used to rotate left guards on EVERY PLAY. They were "messenger guards" and that is how they brought the plays into the QBs. Oh, the Browns won championships doing that. Oh, one other thing, one of the "messenger guards" - - obviously getting in for only half of the offensive snaps - - was Gene Hickerson (RIP). If you visit Canton, you can learn all about him in the Hall of Fame too. The Browns didn't use "messenger guards" because they were deficient on the offensive line. That is why it worked for them. The Redskins rotate on the offensive lineman because neither of the guards in question stands out as a stud. That is why it only works sort of well for them. __________________ The Sports Curmudgeon www.sportscurmudgeon.com But don't get me wrong, I love sports...

09-23-2010, 06:37 PM	#49
DCtoAZ Impact Rookie Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Scottsdale, Arizona Age: 43 Posts: 623	Re: Offensive line shakeup Why does Will Montgomery #63 not get any love ? He's never dressed and I think at times he plays well. __________________ "F*CK THE DALLAS JUMBOTRON" NFC EAST CHAMPS RG3 will be back & #12 can run the show until hes ready.We are young w depth. 23,59,89 will all be back.Alfred Morris aka Diesel Hybrid ! @DCtoAZ81 ...2013 NFC CHAMPS

09-23-2010, 07:27 PM	#54
Mechanix544 The Starter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Fort Bliss, TX Posts: 2,277	Re: Offensive line shakeup Montgomery sucks my nads..........

09-24-2010, 12:17 AM	#57
CultBrennan59 Pro Bowl Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 6,526	Re: Offensive line shakeup Montgomery is strictly a backup. He should never be starting a season for anyone, especially when I saw him play last year, how slow he was getting out of his stances, and how he would get driven into the backfield on run plays. The only thing I give him is a pat on the back for making the squad this year. __________________ "Anyones better than Madieu Williams"

09-24-2010, 10:50 AM	#59
#56fanatic The Starter Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Charlotte NC Age: 50 Posts: 1,801	Re: Offensive line shakeup I am all for finding a combination of lineman that produce maximum results, however with this type of scheme there needs to be that cohesion and mixing and matching through out the game doesn't seem to be getting it done. The pass protection seems to be pretty decent all though McNabb has the ability to move around a quite bit more than what we are use to seeing. Hopefully as teams realize McNabb can shred them if they keep playing 8 in the box, it will open up some running lanes. It would just seem to me if Dockery is that much in question, then you replace him and let the other guy (forgot his name) play. From what I have seen of him he doesn't seem to be all that bad and this is with limited action in recent years. It would seem to reason with game reps and constant playing time he would end up being a pretty good lineman for Shanny. Brown is playing out of position. he is a probowler for a reason. He just has to adjust to playing a different side with different techniques. I dont think he has been horrible, pretty solid. The only thing i question is when they traded for him, why he wasn't moved to left and Trent play the right, which i thought was a more natural position for him coming out of college.

10-03-2010, 09:36 PM	#60
Dirtbag59 Naega jeil jal naga Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Atlanta, Georgia From: Silver Spring, Maryland Age: 39 Posts: 14,750	Re: Offensive line shakeup Anyone know why Montgomery was out there today for Hicks? Edit: Never mind granthpaulsen Artis Hicks was sick. He tried to play through it but couldn't. Shouldn't be a lingering issue for the #Redskins MikeJonesTBD Artis Hicks said in the locker room that he was feeling sick, and couldn't keep playing. He was disappointed, but relieved that the team won __________________ "It's nice to be important, but its more important to be nice." - Scooter "I feel like Dirtbag has been slowly and methodically trolling the board for a month or so now." - FRPLG

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