Victory Monday

CRedskinsRule · 09-13-2011, 03:50 PM

you all were talking about Orakpo?

Here is his take:

ESPNRadio980 ESPN 980
by Redskins
On @ESPNRadio980 Brian Orakpo said "the team can have victory Monday when they clinch the division"
6 minutes ago

I have never seen anything but passion and pride from this guy. So glad the Bills went with Maybin

mooby · 09-13-2011, 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

you all were talking about Orakpo?

Here is his take:

ESPNRadio980 ESPN 980
by Redskins
On @ESPNRadio980 Brian Orakpo said "the team can have victory Monday when they clinch the division"
6 minutes ago

I have never seen anything but passion and pride from this guy. So glad the Bills went with Maybin

I didn't say I didn't love his attitude. But the whole team deserves props for its' attitude, it's so nice to see that the entire team has its' attitude in sync. After last season it feels so good to wake up and not see any member of our team lashing out in the media for being a malcontent.

Monkeydad · 09-13-2011, 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by artmonkforhallofamein07

AND Eli did win a Superbowl. I don't like the Giants, but I am just saying the guy ain't all bad.

He sucked up until a month before that Super Bowl and has been on a decline since.

156 TDs and 114 INTs with 60 fumbles in 7 years is not good. 58% career passer.

He gets elevated because of his last name and the big media market he plays in.

His stats are comparable to Boomer Esiason at this point. Both have a similar 57-58% completion rate and their TD:INT ratio is identical (I did the math). Both are locks for 15-20 INTs a year but Boomer never had 25 like Eli did last year, even on the Bengals, Jets or Cardinals.

No one would call Boomer a top QB. Good, yes...not great. Eli gets hyped like he's one of the top in the league.

Eli Manning NFL & AFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com

Boomer Esiason NFL & AFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com

artmonkforhallofamein07 · 09-13-2011, 04:48 PM

I am no Eli lover by any stretch of the imagination. The run into the Superbowl was a good footnote to his career.

I also want to confirm I would never use great and Top QB to describe Eli. Just pointing that out is all.

Anyways, back to the thread topic. VICTORY MONKEY!

Great way to start the season, great attitude from the players even if MS was not going to give the guys a day off. Love hearing all this stuff. Rak will get his this year. The D is going to be better evry week. Who knows where we end up at the end of it all, but we do have hope and currently are in the lead of the NFC East, albeit week one.

CrustyRedskin · 09-13-2011, 04:59 PM

That game winning drive and Super Bowl trophy carry a lot of weight. Im sure his last name has something to do with his persona as well. Im just saying bashing this guy is a waste of my time. Ive never been scared of a Giants team because of Eli and he doesnt just get under my skin like Romo and his hide and seek escapades. To me its like pickning a fight with a child, or bitching at a 90 year old man for forgetting something i mean you got to go out of your way looking for stuff. But he does always have the same look on his face, there it is thats it, i got him. But thats just my humble opinion.

RedskinsRave · 09-13-2011, 05:03 PM

Cooley or Davis I choose Both!

It’s a rare thing in this league to have two tight ends who have the talent to be perennial probowlers. On one corner you have Fred Davis, pretty much a tall widereciever who lacks the needed blocking skills, on the other corner you have Chris Cooley, fan favorite, tough SOB, and all around well-rounded tightend. What I have recently noticed from the Redskins fan base is a tug of war between whose better. You have the one side claiming the budding star Fred Davis, claiming they love his speed and his hands. The enemy of them are the Cooley fans, holding dear to our beloved #47 who still has the work ethic and the skill to make several more probowls. Well I have decided to be the Ghandi in this, ladies and gentlemen, I want peace, Why can’t we love both tight ends? Why can’t we give Rex “Unleash the Dragon” Grossman the matchup hell which is two strongly skilled tightends. No answer to that folks? Because I am right, With Fred Davis and Cooley combined the Redskins receive an advantage over other teams in this league, one of the few advantages we can actually lay claim to. We have two guys who honestly can have 80-100 yards and multiple touchdowns every game. Fred Davis proved that Sunday receiving 5 receptions for 105 yards. Chris Cooley showed his continued value with solid blocks and 2 catches for 21 yards. Both offer versatility and represent a very valuable chunk of the Redskins Shanny offense. Why should we lose that? Why have trade Cooley threads? Or trade Davis threads? I’m telling you right now, we would have to receive an empire in return for either player, not the 3rd round pick fans were clamoring for, that’s no empire, that’s a colony. Fred Davis is in a key season, his contract season. Davis has been on record many times claiming he wants to be a featured tight end, Davis is a featured tight end in our system with improved stats across the board ahead. The front office is in an easy situation to me, re-sign the guy, keep the best tight end tandem in the NFL in Washington. Heres to Cooley and Davis crossing up the Cardinals defense this week, and heres to them crossing up defenses for years to come. HTTR

See more at redskinsrave.com

artmonkforhallofamein07 · 09-13-2011, 05:25 PM

As far as your point goe RedskinsRave. You are right on, take a look at New England for example. They have Hernandez and Gronkowski. Both very good, and both very useful in their own right. If we are running 2 and 3 TE sets why not have two very good ones and one newcomer?

CrustyRedskin · 09-13-2011, 05:30 PM

Yes especially on short yardage like 2nd and minus 5. Options are unlimited!

Giantone · 09-13-2011, 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Monkeydad

He sucked up until a month before that Super Bowl and has been on a decline since.

156 TDs and 114 INTs with 60 fumbles in 7 years is not good. 58% career passer.

He gets elevated because of his last name and the big media market he plays in.

Eli Manning NFL & AFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com

Boomer Esiason NFL & AFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com

Maybe but I have a question for you,how many starting QB's have the Skins had in Eli's 7 years?When he sucks ...he stinks but when he's good he's very good .Like the Super bowl run or not he did it , and he won it, and he was the MVP of it,alot of "good" QB's can't say it.....alot of great QB's can't say it.

GMScud · 09-13-2011, 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Giantone

Maybe but I have a question for you,how many starting QB's have the Skins had in Eli's 7 years?When he sucks ...he stinks but when he's good he's very good .Like the Super bowl run or not he did it , and he won it, and he was the MVP of it,alot of "good" QB's can't say it.....alot of great QB's can't say it.

You know what I think is funny? You said that not having OTA's/offseason hurt Eli and his WRs. Well, there have never been that many passing yards in a single week in NFL history. Didn't hurt anyone else. LOL.

12thMan · 09-13-2011, 06:21 PM

I, too, think it's funny that pundits and Giants fans are still whining about missing Osi and Tuck, while completely dismissing how we shut down their downfield passing game and didn't let Jacobs get on a roll.

It's like they forget the other team is paid to play football, until they lose to the Redskins then it's this guy was hurt or that guy was hurt.

artmonkforhallofamein07 · 09-13-2011, 06:23 PM

Nice Stat Scud...

Giantone... If you are here to talk about how bad we have been in the past.. well keep dwelling on that one. We are here for the present, not what happened the last seven years. To be quite honest there may be another QB starting next year. Who knows... you guys lost to a team that played better, a QB who out performed yours, a defense who dominated you in the second half, and and offense who has had the same starting QB for four games with no OTAs. We won you lost. You should drop it. Eli is who he is. We all know it. He caught lightening in a bottle back in 07. He is not terrible and he is not great.

CrustyRedskin · 09-13-2011, 06:31 PM

Hey Rex Grossman is on PTI for 5 good minutes check it out!!!!!! And he did a great job, nice Rexy!!!

Giantone · 09-13-2011, 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GMScud

You know what I think is funny? You said that not having OTA's/offseason hurt Eli and his WRs. Well, there have never been that many passing yards in a single week in NFL history. Didn't hurt anyone else. LOL.

LOLReally,are you sure?How many yards did mcNabb have?I find it funny how mad you're getting when you realise Eli isn't all that bad.
No doubt he stunk Sunday and you guys played great but as a Giant fan I know he can play better.So how many QB's is it?

tryfuhl · 09-13-2011, 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Giantone

lol.....funny coming from a guy who is Good Charlotte's #1 fan.

What?

09-13-2011, 03:50 PM	#121
CRedskinsRule Living Legend Join Date: Aug 2008 Age: 57 Posts: 21,429	Re: Victory Monday you all were talking about Orakpo? Here is his take: ESPNRadio980 ESPN 980 by Redskins On @ESPNRadio980 Brian Orakpo said "the team can have victory Monday when they clinch the division" 6 minutes ago I have never seen anything but passion and pride from this guy. So glad the Bills went with Maybin

09-13-2011, 04:48 PM	#124
artmonkforhallofamein07 Pro Bowl Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Charleston , SC Posts: 5,001	Re: Victory Monday I am no Eli lover by any stretch of the imagination. The run into the Superbowl was a good footnote to his career. I also want to confirm I would never use great and Top QB to describe Eli. Just pointing that out is all. Anyways, back to the thread topic. VICTORY MONKEY! Great way to start the season, great attitude from the players even if MS was not going to give the guys a day off. Love hearing all this stuff. Rak will get his this year. The D is going to be better evry week. Who knows where we end up at the end of it all, but we do have hope and currently are in the lead of the NFC East, albeit week one. __________________ Just win.

09-13-2011, 04:59 PM	#125
CrustyRedskin Playmaker Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: RatherbeinDC, TX Posts: 3,059	Re: Victory Monday That game winning drive and Super Bowl trophy carry a lot of weight. Im sure his last name has something to do with his persona as well. Im just saying bashing this guy is a waste of my time. Ive never been scared of a Giants team because of Eli and he doesnt just get under my skin like Romo and his hide and seek escapades. To me its like pickning a fight with a child, or bitching at a 90 year old man for forgetting something i mean you got to go out of your way looking for stuff. But he does always have the same look on his face, there it is thats it, i got him. But thats just my humble opinion. __________________ Lafayette, we're here. HTTR. You wern't a bunch of losers on 10-27-14.

09-13-2011, 05:03 PM	#126
RedskinsRave Camp Scrub Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 17	Re: Victory Monday Cooley or Davis I choose Both! It’s a rare thing in this league to have two tight ends who have the talent to be perennial probowlers. On one corner you have Fred Davis, pretty much a tall widereciever who lacks the needed blocking skills, on the other corner you have Chris Cooley, fan favorite, tough SOB, and all around well-rounded tightend. What I have recently noticed from the Redskins fan base is a tug of war between whose better. You have the one side claiming the budding star Fred Davis, claiming they love his speed and his hands. The enemy of them are the Cooley fans, holding dear to our beloved #47 who still has the work ethic and the skill to make several more probowls. Well I have decided to be the Ghandi in this, ladies and gentlemen, I want peace, Why can’t we love both tight ends? Why can’t we give Rex “Unleash the Dragon” Grossman the matchup hell which is two strongly skilled tightends. No answer to that folks? Because I am right, With Fred Davis and Cooley combined the Redskins receive an advantage over other teams in this league, one of the few advantages we can actually lay claim to. We have two guys who honestly can have 80-100 yards and multiple touchdowns every game. Fred Davis proved that Sunday receiving 5 receptions for 105 yards. Chris Cooley showed his continued value with solid blocks and 2 catches for 21 yards. Both offer versatility and represent a very valuable chunk of the Redskins Shanny offense. Why should we lose that? Why have trade Cooley threads? Or trade Davis threads? I’m telling you right now, we would have to receive an empire in return for either player, not the 3rd round pick fans were clamoring for, that’s no empire, that’s a colony. Fred Davis is in a key season, his contract season. Davis has been on record many times claiming he wants to be a featured tight end, Davis is a featured tight end in our system with improved stats across the board ahead. The front office is in an easy situation to me, re-sign the guy, keep the best tight end tandem in the NFL in Washington. Heres to Cooley and Davis crossing up the Cardinals defense this week, and heres to them crossing up defenses for years to come. HTTR See more at redskinsrave.com __________________ http://redskinsrave.com

09-13-2011, 05:25 PM	#127
artmonkforhallofamein07 Pro Bowl Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Charleston , SC Posts: 5,001	Re: Victory Monday As far as your point goe RedskinsRave. You are right on, take a look at New England for example. They have Hernandez and Gronkowski. Both very good, and both very useful in their own right. If we are running 2 and 3 TE sets why not have two very good ones and one newcomer? __________________ Just win.

09-13-2011, 05:30 PM	#128
CrustyRedskin Playmaker Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: RatherbeinDC, TX Posts: 3,059	Re: Victory Monday Yes especially on short yardage like 2nd and minus 5. Options are unlimited! __________________ Lafayette, we're here. HTTR. You wern't a bunch of losers on 10-27-14.

09-13-2011, 06:21 PM	#131
12thMan MVP Join Date: May 2005 Location: washington, D.C. Posts: 11,460	Re: Victory Monday I, too, think it's funny that pundits and Giants fans are still whining about missing Osi and Tuck, while completely dismissing how we shut down their downfield passing game and didn't let Jacobs get on a roll. It's like they forget the other team is paid to play football, until they lose to the Redskins then it's this guy was hurt or that guy was hurt.

09-13-2011, 06:23 PM	#132
artmonkforhallofamein07 Pro Bowl Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Charleston , SC Posts: 5,001	Re: Victory Monday Nice Stat Scud... Giantone... If you are here to talk about how bad we have been in the past.. well keep dwelling on that one. We are here for the present, not what happened the last seven years. To be quite honest there may be another QB starting next year. Who knows... you guys lost to a team that played better, a QB who out performed yours, a defense who dominated you in the second half, and and offense who has had the same starting QB for four games with no OTAs. We won you lost. You should drop it. Eli is who he is. We all know it. He caught lightening in a bottle back in 07. He is not terrible and he is not great. __________________ Just win.

09-13-2011, 06:31 PM	#133
CrustyRedskin Playmaker Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: RatherbeinDC, TX Posts: 3,059	Re: Victory Monday Hey Rex Grossman is on PTI for 5 good minutes check it out!!!!!! And he did a great job, nice Rexy!!! __________________ Lafayette, we're here. HTTR. You wern't a bunch of losers on 10-27-14. Last edited by CrustyRedskin; 09-13-2011 at 06:47 PM.

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