Official 2012 Election Day Thread

[BleedBurgundy]

Originally Posted by hooskins

Based on international law, it is. How can you expect countries to respect our diplomatic actions and requests based on international law(ex. Iran stop developing nukes) if we don't follow those very rules? It's very hypocritical.

110% agree, this and NDAA were the two biggest reservations I had while voting for Obama.


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[Alvin Walton]

Originally Posted by hooskins

Based on international law, it is. How can you expect countries to respect our diplomatic actions and requests based on international law(ex. Iran stop developing nukes) if we don't follow those very rules? It's very hypocritical.

They can kiss the south end of my red, white and blue ass!

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Alvin Walton

Yup, we've still got a lot of work to do.

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Really,JC ...you guys need to stop.Do any of you realize how much work gets done at a golf course,no really!!!

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by hooskins

My biggest gripe with the Obama administration. Drone strikes are horrible for long term foreign policy in the mid east...and they're illegal.

BS,illegal my ass!(sorry).It's illegal to kill 3000 Americans by flying planes into towers but over there how many people were cheering?

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by Giantone

BS,illegal my ass!(sorry).It's illegal to kill 3000 Americans by flying planes into towers but over there how many people were cheering?

It is illegal. You think it's legal to fly a aircraft (manned or unmanned) through another country to kill somebody?


Also, you were shown exactly what our media wants to show you. You see a few hundred people cheering and assume that's the whole country.

[That Guy]

so if someone flew a drone over te US and killed your parent, or a 4 star general, that wouldn't be terrorism? or does logic magically only work one way.

I can tell you, if that happened, i'd be pretty pissed.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

. You see a few hundred people cheering and assume that's the whole country.

All due respect ,a few hundred,are you serous?In that case ....it was a whole country.

[hooskins]

Originally Posted by Giantone

All due respect ,a few hundred,are you serous?In that case ....it was a whole country.

Really? All of Pakistan? That's not true.

[hooskins]

Originally Posted by Alvin Walton

They can kiss the south end of my red, white and blue ass!

Fine but then we can't expect other countries to follow any international law. And we expect other countries to all the time (extradition, nuclear policy, long/short range missiles, etc.). Hypocritical.

[saden1]

Anyone know the whereabouts of Buster? I hope he's getting help, we don't want his depression to turn into psychosis.

[Daseal]

Originally Posted by That Guy

so if someone flew a drone over te US and killed your parent, or a 4 star general, that wouldn't be terrorism? or does logic magically only work one way.

I can tell you, if that happened, i'd be pretty pissed.

Exactly. The point of these treaties is the 'do unto others' mentality. If we break those rules, we simply can't expect others to follow them.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by saden1

Everyone deserves downtime not to mention the fact that it is possible to walk and chew gum at the some time. The president isn't lazy but you guys go ahead and keep thinking that.

In the words of Nancy Reagan "Presidents don't get a vacation...they just get a change of scenery"

[Alvin Walton]

I've never understood all the angst over drone usage.
In most cases we have the permision of the local govt to use them.
Its a hell of a lot more efficient to just drop on them then to send in a team and capture them and bring them to Guantanamo bay. (Obamas policy)
And it also puts less American lives at risk.
There may be some rule bending going on there, that may be putting it mildly, but if it prevents another 9/11....well then drone baby drone!

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by hooskins

My biggest gripe with the Obama administration. Drone strikes are horrible for long term foreign policy in the mid east...and they're illegal.

You really think that Obama and our military have not been warning Yamen to wipeout those terrorist camps or we will ourself. Last time we ignored those camps bad things happened. Terrorism is illegal by international laws and aiding and abetting is also illegal by international law. This is one area I support Obama as long as its used wisely. Another words I don't want him to kill 20 women and children to get one or two terrorist.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

In the words of Nancy Reagan "Presidents don't get a vacation...they just get a change of scenery"

Perfect quote..given how quickly presidents gray you would think you think they could use some downtown.

...sometimes I wish I lived in their bubble, you know, vacation there for a few weeks and see what it is like in there.