Around the NFL 2013 Offseason (Episode 99)

[Monkeydad]

That's a nifty post.

I agree...lets stop teaching it...EVERYONE.

[scowan]

Originally Posted by Monkeydad

They're a disgrace. Hideous.




Although I think the Riley Cooper comment is being blown WAYYYYYYY out of proportion, mainly by the media...I'm loving the chaos and divided locker room. LeSean McCoy claims he can't play alongside Cooper any more. Mike Vick of all people is making the most sense in that situation...never thought I'd agree with him on anything.

How much do you want to bet that word gets used 100 times every day in that locker room...but of course, only by certain players. If we're going to ruin Cooper and Paula Deen, we need to line the news trucks up at Chris Rock and Al Sharpton's houses too. Punishing the offenders won't help race relations while maintaining the double-standard. If white people are going to be tarred and feathered for the word, lets stop using it completely. All of us.



Anyway, Eagles going 3-13 this year...calling it.

Deion Sanders had some comments about Riley Cooper on the NFL Network this weekend that I agree with 100%. He said black people use the N word all the time when they talk to each other and call each other that word. They also use it in their songs, but the second some other race uses it, its like Watch Out!!! Then he said, "Who is racist?" Yep, that's what I'm asking. We live in a waaaay tooo politically correct world. Yes, we should all be sensitive to the things we say, but people need to grow thicker skins as well. Deion also ask the question "How many of us would want a camera on in our homes all the time for the stuff we say?"

[Monkeydad]

^ Yes, seriously...he said a bad word, while drunk.

Where is the public outcry for the real criminals? This offseason:

Andre Smith and Da-Quan Bowers both took a gun into an airport.

Jay Ratliff put everyone in danger by driving drunk. His temmate killed someone that way.

Michael Boley was arrested for child abuse.

Amari Spivey beat up his girlfriend over child support, with the kid there.

Dez Bryant was arrested for beating his own mother.

Titus Young drove drunk THEN tried to steal his car back from the impound lot. He was also arrested for burglary, resisting arrest and assaulting a cop.

Pacman Jones...another one, this time assault.

Jason Peters, Mr. Fast and Furious street racer...going to kill someone like that, man.

Aaron Hernendez didn't incite as much emotion and he likely killed anywhere from one to three people...or more. But no...we need to force his guy out of the NFL for saying a racist word at a concert.

I hate the racist word too, but we need to keep some perspective, it is just a word...one that seems to be accepted by those it's supposed to offend.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by scowan

Deion Sanders had some comments about Riley Cooper on the NFL Network this weekend that I agree with 100%. He said black people use the N word all the time when they talk to each other and call each other that word. They also use it in their songs, but the second some other race uses it, its like Watch Out!!! Then he said, "Who is racist?" Yep, that's what I'm asking. We live in a waaaay tooo politically correct world. Yes, we should all be sensitive to the things we say, but people need to grow thicker skins as well. Deion also ask the question "How many of us would want a camera on in our homes all the time for the stuff we say?"

1. Coopers comments were way out of line regardless the color of his skin; people get murder everyday does that make it right?

2. Cooper was not in his home when he said it so he was subject to public opinion

3. If you are using Deion Sanders as the needle to your moral compass you might want recalibrate it.

It been one thing if Cooper told a off color joke with the N word in it but his comments were disturbing to say the least.

[donofriose]

Words by themselves are not bad, they are just words. Its the context that matters. Also packers left tackle is out. Sucks for them because he had moved from right to left meaning their depth is even thinner on the line.

[SmootSmack]

I thought some of his teammates had a pretty interesting observation about Cooper. They said he wasn't racist (which wasn't the interesting part) but they said the bigger concern to them (at least from how I remember it) was that Cooper often gets crazy drunk when he goes out and gets out of control

[MTK]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I thought some of his teammates had a pretty interesting observation about Cooper. They said he wasn't racist (which wasn't the interesting part) but they said the bigger concern to them (at least from how I remember it) was that Cooper often gets crazy drunk when he goes out and gets out of control

When that report came out about the team getting him some outside help, I wonder if that's more about the drinking vs. what he said.

[Lotus]

Is there anything more than coincidence that this year's two biggest off-field episodes (Cooper, Hernandez) involve former Florida Gators gone wild?

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Lotus

Is there anything more than coincidence that this year's two biggest off-field episodes (Cooper, Hernandez) involve former Florida Gators gone wild?

Still a long way to go before the magic of Tebow gets cancelled out.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Still a long way to go before the magic of Tebow gets cancelled out.

That's definitely true.

But I was after troublemaker Gators, not overhyped Gators. Is there something in the Gator football culture that leads to Hernandez-Cooper outcomes? I am genuinely just wondering.

[Chico23231]

That egostical lying prick Urban Meyer is the common denominator. He recruited them and let them do whatever they wanted at Florida. Eff him

[Skinzman]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

That egostical lying prick Urban Meyer is the common denominator. He recruited them and let them do whatever they wanted at Florida. Eff him

Did you all know that Shanahan and Allen are drug dealers. Look at Trent Williams and Jarvis Jenkins. Shanahan and Allen are the common denominators. They drafted them and let them do what ever they wanted in Washington.

Sweeping generalizations for the win...

Does this site have a facepalm emote?

[Lotus]

Devin Thomas came up for discussion on the Warpath the other day. He has now left the Motor City.

Lions release Devin Thomas | ProFootballTalk

[GridIron26]

Originally Posted by Lotus

Devin Thomas came up for discussion on the Warpath the other day. He has now left the Motor City.

Lions release Devin Thomas | ProFootballTalk

It's really surprising that he's been in the league this long

[over the mountain]

Originally Posted by Monkeydad

^ Yes, seriously...he said a bad word, while drunk.

Where is the public outcry for the real criminals? This offseason:

Andre Smith and Da-Quan Bowers both took a gun into an airport.

Jay Ratliff put everyone in danger by driving drunk. His temmate killed someone that way.

Michael Boley was arrested for child abuse.

Amari Spivey beat up his girlfriend over child support, with the kid there.

Dez Bryant was arrested for beating his own mother.

monkey i am not picking on you per se but i always kinda roll my eyes when ppl try to defend or justify 1 person's specific negative act by pointing out all the other evil deeds that others might have done.

it has no relevance to the specific bad act being discussed and in no way excuses or absolves anyone from anything.

when ppl do that, i interpret it as them saying "whats the big deal, did you her what johnny said .... "


and im glad that no one here has raised the "white cracker" argument bc the term white cracker doesnt have 100s of years of oppression, hate and slavery behind it.

with all that strongly said, i dont think the NFL would have any justification for fining or suspending him. if football teams are like a family, id let the eagles family handle it internally. if he is too divisive of a presence, then the eagles should do what they have to do.

my 2 cents - no one should get a pass for using the word the way in which he said it but what he said should have no bearing on his football eligibility through the league office. i apologize for perhaps extending this convo.