Realistic "State of the Skins"

[diehardskin2982]

Before this game I wrote a thread about getting over the hump. Last night I think the skins might have done it. It only takes a little bit, and BOOM! We got a win in dallas. The Cowboys treated this game like a homecomming. So they deserved that 4rth quarter asswhooping. Brunnel looked liked the old brunnel in jacksonville before the injruy. If we can build on that and our offense has more confidence going agianst Seattle we will be a serious threat to everyone in the NFC East.

[mooby]

i'd like to add another good to mark brunell's performance. he threw three good passes, two were for tds, and the other was a 41 yarder on third and 2.

bad: where's lavar, i really think he could've helped us in the turnover department last night.

[scowan]

Originally Posted by SUNRA

I agree. But on a lighter note. We really watched the Redskins score three touchdowns in 2:37 seconds. I guess the Referees didn't want the defense to hurt their feelings. Sean Taylor landed the biggest hit and turnover of the week and Walt Harris picks it up. What do we hear, an incomplete pass. Get the hell out of hear. The real score would be 21-13. Man f$%k the Cowboys.

Sundra, you are right about that hit by Taylor. That was a completed pass and a fumble. That guy caught that pass, was it Crayton I don't remember, turned up field, took two steps and got hammered! If the replay officals would have stopped the game for a review, it would have been overturned. That was a wicked, very legal hit by Taylor.

[redrock-skins]

Originally Posted by scowan

Sundra, you are right about that hit by Taylor. That was a completed pass and a fumble. That guy caught that pass, was it Crayton I don't remember, turned up field, took two steps and got hammered! If the replay officals would have stopped the game for a review, it would have been overturned. That was a wicked, very legal hit by Taylor.

There was another similiar play earlier in the game too, where the Cowboys caught and then fumbled the ball. So we got screwed twice. The ref blew the whistle in both case I believe, which makes the play not reviewable. I've heard cries elsewhere about "phantom holding calls" against Dallas toward the end of the game so all I have to do is bring up those two "phantom non-fumble calls".

[That Guy]

where the hell did that playcalling come from in the last 4 minutes? and can we always do that please?

I want more mark rypien bombs away passing...

[memphisskin]

I think we found out that Brunell may have a little something left in his tank and maybe the gameplan wasn't as conservative as it appeared. Field position really dictated that we not take chances for most of the game, but now that we've found the deep ball things might just open up.

The Good - Team Defense. Just outstanding, they kept us in the game without the offense contributing much and slammed the door when they needed to.

The Bad - Pass protection and penalties. For all the talk about protecting the qb we still struggled in blitz pickup and Brunell got hit and harassed way too much. Cleaning up the penalties may get our offense untracked, but hopefully the deep passes are the spark that we need to ignite our offense.

The Ugly - Team Offense. Maybe these two deep balls will give them the confidence that they need. But it looked too much like the same old offense for 3+ quarters and that's not a good thing. Where were the stretch plays, all the new stuff to get Portis on the edge or maybe even a screen pass to Portis.

But the bottom line is that we're 2-0. Hey, did anyone notice that our win over Dallas is getting very little attention. I saw Peter King has Dallas (12) and Chicago (15) in his Fine 15. Wonder if we'll get any mention considering we beat both of those teams.

[memphisskin]

I think we found out that Brunell may have a little something left in his tank and maybe the gameplan wasn't as conservative as it appeared. Field position really dictated that we not take chances for most of the game, but now that we've found the deep ball things might just open up.

The Good - Team Defense. Just outstanding, they kept us in the game without the offense contributing much and slammed the door when they needed to.

The Bad - Pass protection and penalties. For all the talk about protecting the qb we still struggled in blitz pickup and Brunell got hit and harassed way too much. Cleaning up the penalties may get our offense untracked, but hopefully the deep passes are the spark that we need to ignite our offense.

The Ugly - Team Offense. Maybe these two deep balls will give them the confidence that they need. But it looked too much like the same old offense for 3+ quarters and that's not a good thing. Where were the stretch plays, all the new stuff to get Portis on the edge or maybe even a screen pass to Portis.

But the bottom line is that we're 2-0. Hey, did anyone notice that our win over Dallas is getting very little attention. I know if we lost the Cowboys would have been Super Bowl contenders, but we win and we're still a "flawed team." At least we know the flaw isn't on defense. And I saw Peter King has Dallas (12) and Chicago (15) in his Fine 15. Wonder if we'll get any mention considering we beat both of those teams.

[SUNRA]

What about Dan Synder? Man you would have thought Jesus Christ came back by the way he was jumping up and down. All I could imagine him saying, "Pure unadulterated Ecstacy." Thank you, Jesus!

[That Guy]

man, look at the defensive stats... looks like pierce singlehandedly made the gints run defense awesome, maybe we should have kept him...

[RedskinPete]

Originally Posted by That Guy

man, look at the defensive stats... looks like pierce singlehandedly made the gints run defense awesome, maybe we should have kept him...

Sure would have love that but the LB's we have are as good or better!

[Southpaw]

Originally Posted by Ade Jimoh Fan Club

GOOD - Sean Taylor's hit on Crayton at the end of the game. Awesome!
BAD - Sean Taylor's coverage for most of the game. While I still think Taylor has the potential to be a beast in the NFL, I have to be honest about the fact that he is nowhere near the neighborhood of Roy Williams, Ed Reed or even Mike Brown in terms of dominating a game. Not close.

Saying Mike Brown is better than Taylor is borderline blasphemy. People are afraid of Taylor. Have you ever seen a Sportscenter highlight where someone says "so and so gets JACKED UP by Mike Brown"? ST also plays the run 10 times better than Brown. The only thing that Brown has going for him is his ability to be in the right place at the right time, which seems to have diminished a bit over the years.

And ST has way better coverage ability and recovery speed than Roy Williams. ST got beat on a flea flicker, which if done correctly, will beat any defense(I specifically remember a Monday night game last year where Ed Reed and Ray Lewis got beat on a flea flicker). Roy got beat twice by a standard double move.

Originally Posted by Ade Jimoh Fan Club

GOOD - TEAM defense
BAD - You are nutzo if you think the defense is better off w/o Lavar in the lineup. Where the hell was he? Didn't hear Carlos Rogers name called all game either (although I saw him in the game at least). These guys are gamechangers, supposedly. We tallied NO sacks and NO turnovers. Did you see Roy Williams last night - he was everywhere. We need some of that. Getting our playmakers in the game will help. Don't worry, G-Williams will still have them playing like a team.

I agree with this statement, somewhat. A lot of people try to act like we're just fine without LaVar, but he's a playmaker. A lot of times, he's the only pressure on the QB because of our dismil defensive line(my only knock on the defense). He's a ball hawk and causes chaos for offenses when he's healthy. You'll see the difference in the defense when he's %100.

[BleedBurgundy]

I think the play calling was over-conservative for most of the game. What changed was that we didn't have enough time to play that way anymore... so we started attacking and we got the first TD. What impressed me most was that when we got the ball back, down 13-7, We went long on 2nd down with a lot of clock left. Normally, we'd be expecting a few short throws to try and move the chains. Instead, we went for the jugular... I think that was a huge change in philosophy.

[illdefined]

Originally Posted by BleedBurgundy

What impressed me most was that when we got the ball back, down 13-7, We went long on 2nd down with a lot of clock left. Normally, we'd be expecting a few short throws to try and move the chains. Instead, we went for the jugular... I think that was a huge change in philosophy.

agreed. that was a first down play!

but even throwing it long on 4 & 15th was a gutsy non-conservative move. i really hope something broke in that stodgy, conservative philosophy that only ensures we lose by a respectable amount. no more please!

[redsk1]

What a game. I think I woke the neighborhood up at 1245am last night screaming at the tv. Good win, but we have a lot of improving to do. I don't see how the ref's missed TWO calls on fumbles. Unbelievable.
Realistically our offense was horrible for 3 qtrs. Maybe this will open some things up. Did anyone notice, Michaels and Madden, using phrases like no weapons, nothing to scare to defense, predictable, to describe our offense? I think they were being nice. Lets enjoy this win but know we have GOT to do a better job offensively.
BTW- Greg Williams said they practiced the f-flicker 3 times in practice this week.

[hurrykaine]

Originally Posted by Ade Jimoh Fan Club

I hear you! It seems like the Cowbitches get at least one bogus call like that every time we play them. Every time. Under 2 Min's - that should have at least been reviewed.

I just saw it more closely on the highlight reel - Crayton took two steps after catching the ball (aka a football move) before Taylor leveled him. Fumble!!!!!!

Wish we could get an independent review of this.