Should We Punt Groom?

SmootSmack · 09-22-2005, 12:10 PM

What have you guys thought of Andy Groom so far? I've been kind of disappointed in him so far actually. But I can't quite pinpoint what exactly it is that's bugging me about him.

I don't think punter is a position we can really afford to overlook. Field position is huge, especially for us since I expect we'll be playing a lot of tight games. So is it worth it to go through the growing pains with him or should we maybe consider looking for a veteran?

jbcjr14 · 09-22-2005, 12:14 PM

We have lost the field position game in both contests this year. I don't think Groom has done a horrible job. In fact, I think he has done well given he is a rookie and certainly has not kicked a shankey yet.

MTK · 09-22-2005, 12:14 PM

Problem is what else is out there?

He's young, but I think he's worth developing.

ChounsMan · 09-22-2005, 12:16 PM

Keep Groom, lets not lose another Akers because we are not patient.

That Guy · 09-22-2005, 12:18 PM

he gets it high, as seen by most of our coverage, giving them enough time to get downfield hasn't been a big problem... a couple extra yards would be cool though.

illdefined · 09-22-2005, 12:18 PM

is Tupa on IR?, he's not coming back?

MTK · 09-22-2005, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by illdefined

is Tupa on IR?, he's not coming back?

yes he's on IR

SmootSmack · 09-22-2005, 12:28 PM

You guys are probably right. I guess I just had really high expectations of him that I want to see more out of him. Sort of the same way I feel about Patten. All in due time I suppose

RedskinRat · 09-22-2005, 12:30 PM

After his block on the run-back I think we can at least give him 4-5 more games.

I don't think the Special Teams are playing lights out yet either.

illdefined · 09-22-2005, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by RedskinRat

After his block on the run-back I think we can at least give him 4-5 more games.

I don't think the Special Teams are playing lights out yet either.

you talkin about Novak?

RedskinRat · 09-22-2005, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by illdefined

you talkin about Novak?

Er....ah, yes......it's been a confusing start to the week.

At one point I even thought we beat Dallarse in their house on a night they were inducting 3 HOF'ers....and we were 13 - 0 down with less than 4 minutes to go!

I probably just need to lie down.......

illdefined · 09-22-2005, 12:43 PM

ha i totally understand. i never quite knew why Punter and Kicker are usually separate guys? it's has to be that specialized??

RedskinRat · 09-22-2005, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by illdefined

ha i totally understand. i never quite knew why Punter and Kicker are usually separate guys? it's has to be that specialized??

Totally agree. In Europe we have a billion people that can kick a ball straight up, with a fade/slice ect playing Rugby (ok, slightly less than a billion) and I never understood why they weren't recruited into the NFL more often.

Has anyone esle seen the kicks in Rugby for the conversions from crazy angles?

EternalEnigma21 · 09-22-2005, 12:52 PM

I dont know what the kid has done wrong. We keep starting on our own 2, and thats just decent punting by the opposition. Then when we cant get anything going on offense, he has to punt from his own 20. I don't think he's been a liability... am I missing something?

SmootSmack · 09-22-2005, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by illdefined

ha i totally understand. i never quite knew why Punter and Kicker are usually separate guys? it's has to be that specialized??

And then you have those teams that have one kicker for field goals and another for kickoffs

09-22-2005, 12:10 PM	#1
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Should We Punt Groom? What have you guys thought of Andy Groom so far? I've been kind of disappointed in him so far actually. But I can't quite pinpoint what exactly it is that's bugging me about him. I don't think punter is a position we can really afford to overlook. Field position is huge, especially for us since I expect we'll be playing a lot of tight games. So is it worth it to go through the growing pains with him or should we maybe consider looking for a veteran? __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

09-22-2005, 12:14 PM	#2
jbcjr14 The Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Austin, Texas Age: 54 Posts: 2,015	Re: Should We Punt Groom? We have lost the field position game in both contests this year. I don't think Groom has done a horrible job. In fact, I think he has done well given he is a rookie and certainly has not kicked a shankey yet. __________________ "Work Harder: millions on welfare are counting on you" - Obama 2009 address to Congress.

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MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,518	Re: Should We Punt Groom? Problem is what else is out there? He's young, but I think he's worth developing. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

09-22-2005, 12:16 PM	#4
ChounsMan Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Connecticut Age: 53 Posts: 312	Re: Should We Punt Groom? Keep Groom, lets not lose another Akers because we are not patient. __________________ Throwing on 4th and inches..!

09-22-2005, 12:18 PM	#5
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 42 Posts: 17,553	Re: Should We Punt Groom? he gets it high, as seen by most of our coverage, giving them enough time to get downfield hasn't been a big problem... a couple extra yards would be cool though.

09-22-2005, 12:18 PM	#6
illdefined Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: nyc Age: 48 Posts: 2,631	Re: Should We Punt Groom? is Tupa on IR?, he's not coming back? __________________ a fan. not a cheerleader.

09-22-2005, 12:28 PM	#8
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: Should We Punt Groom? You guys are probably right. I guess I just had really high expectations of him that I want to see more out of him. Sort of the same way I feel about Patten. All in due time I suppose __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

09-22-2005, 12:30 PM	#9
RedskinRat Franchise Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: I'm in LA, trick! Posts: 8,700	Re: Should We Punt Groom? After his block on the run-back I think we can at least give him 4-5 more games. I don't think the Special Teams are playing lights out yet either.

09-22-2005, 12:43 PM	#12
illdefined Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: nyc Age: 48 Posts: 2,631	Re: Should We Punt Groom? ha i totally understand. i never quite knew why Punter and Kicker are usually separate guys? it's has to be that specialized?? __________________ a fan. not a cheerleader.

09-22-2005, 12:52 PM	#14
EternalEnigma21 Assistant Regional Mod Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Carbondale CO Age: 44 Posts: 2,958	Re: Should We Punt Groom? I dont know what the kid has done wrong. We keep starting on our own 2, and thats just decent punting by the opposition. Then when we cant get anything going on offense, he has to punt from his own 20. I don't think he's been a liability... am I missing something?

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