Redskins vs Vikings Gameday thread

[Gary84Clark]

Originally Posted by OnceWeWereKings

Egh. Double Egh. Griff looked like there was no rust in the first quarter and regressed throughout the game with flashes of competence after the first. My question since the "he needs time to develope" shtick came about is this: how much time is too much? We are on year 3 now. Year one looked good...but so far 2 and 3 aren't going so well.....
Defense looked good for the first quarter and a half...then seemed to abandon the blitz?? I saw the dbs in zone after amerson and Breeland showed early they could man up. Wtf. Looked like prevent d in the second half. Egh!!!!!!
Our entire team looks lost for the most part. It's a fucking shame.

He did ok, didn't throw 4 picks. Mad a couple bad throws. Made some deep throws on the money.

[sevier2]

If you watch Gruden's post game conference it's clear he's pissed with the defense. In my mind, that gives me hope because I know he's a smart guy and will either A) Get Hazlet fired up and get him coaching how he needs to, or B) Fire him and replace him with competent staff.

This game looked exactly like I expected. RG3 is rusty and our team still isn't very good. I'll admit the raw talent we have is probably the only thing keeping us in the game, but we need to remember this is Gruden's FIRST year. Give him at least 3 to really get "his" guys and players and personnel and then grade him.

I believe in Gruden. It just takes time.

[CASKINS]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Rex Ryan

THIS....THIS THIS THIS...we'd be knocking the chocolate outta qb's

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by sevier2

If you watch Gruden's post game conference it's clear he's pissed with the defense. In my mind, that gives me hope because I know he's a smart guy and will either A) Get Hazlet fired up and get him coaching how he needs to, or B) Fire him and replace him with competent staff.



This game looked exactly like I expected. RG3 is rusty and our team still isn't very good. I'll admit the raw talent we have is probably the only thing keeping us in the game, but we need to remember this is Gruden's FIRST year. Give him at least 3 to really get "his" guys and players and personnel and then grade him.



I believe in Gruden. It just takes time.

B is the only choice as far as Haslett goes. The guy is a career loser with a track record of leaving a defense worse off than when he got to it. It is UNREAL that this clown is still employed.

[Gary84Clark]

I was watching football life and was reminded that ole Hazmat Suit got rid of Ricky Williams. After the Saints sold their draft for Ricky, he still wound up being a beast running back. Hazmat Suit is crazy.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Gary84Clark

Better to take the sack than up chuck picks. sometimes you take the sack. You can't be scared to get hit and play in the NFL.

We all know you have an undying love for RG-3, but just stop. Dude got worse as the game went on, and it culminated with him throwing the season into the dirt. You keep mentioning that he did not throw 4 picks like that is some major accomplishment, but you cant throw anything when you are holding the ball for 5-10 effing seconds.

[irish]

This was a winnable game but unfortunately the D cant stop anybody. Something has to change on D.

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by Gary84Clark

He did ok, didn't throw 4 picks. Mad a couple bad throws. Made some deep throws on the money.

I thought winning was your bottom line?

[skinsfan69]

We simply do not have players on defense. Where was Kerrigan and Murphy? What about the prized free agent Hatcher? Where was the game saving sack when we needed it? Clark should not be on an NFL field at this point. Bowen also gets blown 5 yards off the ball. So many players on this defense are just average or below average.

[Hog1]

It is not a secret we need some additional talent from another draft and FA to reinforce the D
And hopefully in the offseason mgmt and Jay will fairly evaluate Haz's tenure.

[irish]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

We simply do not have players on defense. Where was Kerrigan and Murphy? What about the prized free agent Hatcher? Where was the game saving sack when we needed it? Clark should not be on an NFL field at this point. Bowen also gets blown 5 yards off the ball. So many players on this defense are just average or below average.

Hatcher always seems to be coming out of the game and I dont understand why. I bet he played less than 75% of the snaps.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by irish

Hatcher always seems to be coming out of the game and I dont understand why. I bet he played less than 75% of the snaps.

I don't know that I want 1 defensive lineman playing more than 75% of the snaps. Even the most well-conditioned d-linemen need breathers. If a player is tired, I'd rather he remove himself from the game, we know what happens when tired players stay on the field, especially on defense.

[Chico23231]

Minnesota had been average 12.5 points the last 4 weeks leading up to this game....Defense blew it the second half

[irish]

Originally Posted by mooby

I don't know that I want 1 defensive lineman playing more than 75% of the snaps. Even the most well-conditioned d-linemen need breathers. If a player is tired, I'd rather he remove himself from the game, we know what happens when tired players stay on the field, especially on defense.

While he doesn't need to play every down I do think he should be able to handle playing 3 out of 4 plays. When he's not in it makes a big difference.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Minnesota had been average 12.5 points the last 4 weeks leading up to this game....Defense blew it the second half

Agree.

Griffin didn't look horrible. At times he looked pretty good. O-Line is a mess; pass protection is horrible.