The everything Gruden thread

[Brody81]

Originally Posted by Rotten1980

Here go buddy:





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Rotten, your post are becoming very rotten!! Do you have anything else besides spewing your dislike for Gruden? I'm starting to dislike this forum because of your rhetoric. Please come up with something different. As I was told on this site last year "You are a one trick pony"...

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Rotten1980

Here go buddy:



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Try looking at the rankings under the words "total offense" where we are number 12 and they are number 13.
Better yet stick with what I was saying and compare the Bengals from last year to the Bengals of this year. You want to bring up AJ Green? What about our complete lack of an o line, or three not so hot qb's? Wait till Gruden gets some competence on the line and a QB thats halfway decent. Probably though the front office will fail him like they have been failing coaches for 23 effin years.

[Fiversons]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Really? Ask the Colts who they thought was better.

Gruden was a good OC in Cincy... What remains to be seen is if he is good HC material, and so far he is not making a case for himself... While I agree very few if any coaches would have success this year in DC, it really does seem like we are regressing instead of improving, which is very troublesome... Regardless, I think you give him another shot next year... But all of this is moot if Allen is still the guy evaluating the talent and shaping the roster...

Allen being the GM is by far the biggest reason why we suck this season...

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Fiversons

Gruden was a good OC in Cincy... What remains to be seen is if he is good HC material, and so far he is not making a case for himself... While I agree very few if any coaches would have success this year in DC, it really does seem like we are regressing instead of improving, which is very troublesome... Regardless, I think you give him another shot next year... But all of this is moot if Allen is still the guy evaluating the talent and shaping the roster...



Allen being the GM is by far the biggest reason why we suck this season...

I couldnt agree more. Except I dont think we are regressing. I think we forget how bad we were just last year. I just want to give the guy a shot with all the trimmings - cap money, first round pick, New DC. As you said, and I have said hopefully the FO doesnt shit all over whatever changes need to be made to our team and our DC again.

[Rotten1980]

^^ Cincy averaging about 4 points more a game.

[Fiversons]

Originally Posted by punch it in

I couldnt agree more. I dont think we are regressing. I think we forget how bad we were just last year. I just want to give the guy a shot with all the trimmings - cap money, first round pick, New DC. As you said, and I have said hopefully the FO doesnt shit all over whatever changes need to be made to our team and our DC again.

Now. If Dan actually decided to hire a real GM, then I would be all for letting that GM find a Coach, and letting that Coach pick his staff... You know, the way real freaking franchises run their team... And in that scenario, if Jay has to be sent packing, I really won't care because it's the right way to do to business... But if it's just the status quo all over again, and they think canning Jay is the answer to winning, I really might have to consider boycotting football for a while... I don't know how much longer I can take... This is by far the worst season I have ever followed, and that's saying a lot...

[Rotten1980]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Try looking at the rankings under the words "total offense" where we are number 12 and they are number 13.
Better yet stick with what I was saying and compare the Bengals from last year to the Bengals of this year. You want to bring up AJ Green? What about our complete lack of an o line, or three not so hot qb's? Wait till Gruden gets some competence on the line and a QB thats halfway decent. Probably though the front office will fail him like they have been failing coaches for 23 effin years.

Hey bud out of curiosity, what wins games when you watch football, points or yards?

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Rotten1980

Hey bud out of curiosity, what wins games when you watch football, points or yards?

My original point, that you have somehow twisted around to spell Gruden Sucks, was that the Cincy O has taken a step back. It had nothing to do with the Redskins, and who effin cares if Cincy is kicking another fg than we are each week?!? In what world does that speak of or about J Grudens ability to be the HC on a team that hasnt sucked donkey balls for 23 years? Give the man a damn chance.
If we had half a decent line as Cincy and half a decent defense than we would be winning. None of that is Grudens fault. Not even close.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by Rotten1980

Hey bud out of curiosity, what wins games when you watch football, points or yards?

That's a false either-or since yards can lead to points and defenses/special teams can, too.

[Evilgrin]

The lines on both sides of the ball are terrible. The entire defense has been pretty much been done on the cheap since forever.

[over the mountain]

Originally Posted by Evilgrin

The lines on both sides of the ball are terrible. The entire defense has been pretty much been done on the cheap since forever.

we have a ton of cap space attributed to the DL. i posted the cap breakdown by position a few weeks ago per team and league avg.

on D - we are very heavy at DL and very light in secondary.

we have to have the cheapest corners and safeties in the league. tracy porter is by far the highest paid at 4.5 mil.

[donofriose]

Originally Posted by Fiversons

Now. If Dan actually decided to hire a real GM, then I would be all for letting that GM find a Coach, and letting that Coach pick his staff... You know, the way real freaking franchises run their team... And in that scenario, if Jay has to be sent packing, I really won't care because it's the right way to do to business... But if it's just the status quo all over again, and they think canning Jay is the answer to winning, I really might have to consider boycotting football for a while... I don't know how much longer I can take... This is by far the worst season I have ever followed, and that's saying a lot...

Did you watch last year?

[Rotten1980]

I can't believe we paid Tracy effing Porter. The FA/draft for 2014 is complete head scratcher except DJax a saving grace.

[Fiversons]

Originally Posted by donofriose

Did you watch last year?

This year is much worse, I don't know how anybody can say otherwise... At least last year we had the RGIII isn't recovered from injury excuse...

[Fiversons]

Originally Posted by Rotten1980

I can't believe we paid Tracy effing Porter. The FA/draft for 2014 is complete head scratcher except DJax a saving grace.

Come jump aboard the fire Bruce Allen wagon... There is plenty of room left, but seats are filling up fast after each Sunday...