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Old 02-02-2015, 01:05 PM   #166
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With all of the talk around us needing safety help and trust me I am firmly on that bandwagon. Did everyone forget that we picked up Duke Ihenacho last year and then he got hurt, I remember him being pretty good and could with Phillip Thomas be a decent safety tandom, as I believe that we are much more in desperate need of yournger cheaper more effective o-line as well as pass rush help.
we limped into this past season with a "everything needs to go right for this group to be serviceable" secondary.

I want FS addressed with a bonafide NFL caliber starter. not a rookie, not a guy who may rebound, not a guy who takes a vet min contract.

imo the NFL is changing. FS is vital now. SS is very important. elite corners are luxuries which i would love to have, but if you give me an elite FS and a solid SS, i can mask average corners with a decent pass rush and good cover line backers.

yeshh .. i feel like i just described the seahawks D sans the elite corners.

the idea that a great pass rush masks a weak secondary is not necessarily true in today's offensive friendly NFL. even with a good pass rush, QBs/OCs are finding ways to create more time and take the top off.
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Old 02-02-2015, 01:11 PM   #167
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Re: 2015 Free Agents

Here's a UFA to consider as a Third Down Back: Shane Vereen.

- 25 years old
- 52 receptions last season. 3 receiving TD's.
- 4.1 YPC. 2 rushing TD's last season.
- No fumbles in 2014.
- Exceptional quickness
- Great hands
- Good route runner

Whatta ya say?
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Old 02-02-2015, 01:17 PM   #168
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Here's a UFA to consider as a Third Down Back: Shane Vereen.

- 25 years old
- 52 receptions last season. 3 receiving TD's.
- 4.1 YPC. 2 rushing TD's last season.
- No fumbles in 2014.
- Exceptional quickness
- Great hands
- Good route runner

Whatta ya say?
Does he block well? Because Helu does all of the above well too and will probably be cheaper.
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Old 02-02-2015, 01:19 PM   #169
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Here's a UFA to consider as a Third Down Back: Shane Vereen.

- 25 years old
- 52 receptions last season. 3 receiving TD's.
- 4.1 YPC. 2 rushing TD's last season.
- No fumbles in 2014.
- Exceptional quickness
- Great hands
- Good route runner

Whatta ya say?
1. i think Gruden def wants to add a pass catcher out of the back field
2. i think we should find our own shane vereen. he may want 4-5 mil per when we can find an equivalent for less or draft one mid/late (if he isnt on the roster already).
3. I think vereen's stats are a product of brady/belicheck.

edit - yeah helu is pretty much vereen without the spotlight or targets. good call
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Old 02-02-2015, 01:27 PM   #170
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Re: 2015 Free Agents

i hope helu is back on the cheap. no sense in paying rbs in this day and age...
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Old 02-02-2015, 01:35 PM   #171
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They are in love with Silas Redd and Gruden has had liked Thompson since college, I doubt we keep Helu or sign a FA RB this year.
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Old 02-02-2015, 01:37 PM   #172
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Does he block well? Because Helu does all of the above well too and will probably be cheaper.
Why did the Skins let Helu become a UFA? Is it because Helu is looking for a larger role?

What makes you think Helu will re-sign here? If he doesn't, we'll need someone to fill his shoes.

BTW, no RB on the Redskins, including Helu, was anything to brag about in pass protection last season.
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Old 02-02-2015, 01:42 PM   #173
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They are in love with Silas Redd and Gruden has had liked Thompson since college, I doubt we keep Helu or sign a FA RB this year.
Redd could become a decent RB, but he doesn't look like a 3rd down back to me.

Thompson doesn't impress me at all in any role. I think he'll get cut in 2015.

So, I think we'll need somebody in Helu's role for next season.
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Old 02-02-2015, 02:19 PM   #174
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Re: 2015 Free Agents

A running back I'd like us to look at in the draft is Jeremy Langford from Michigan State. Not an elite playmaker like Abdullah or Gordon, but he's got decent speed and quickness, good hands out of the backfield, and he's a good blocker as well.

Excerpt from Dane Brugler's write-up on CBS:

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Old 02-02-2015, 02:59 PM   #175
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Why did the Skins let Helu become a UFA? Is it because Helu is looking for a larger role?



What makes you think Helu will re-sign here? If he doesn't, we'll need someone to fill his shoes.



BTW, no RB on the Redskins, including Helu, was anything to brag about in pass protection last season.

1. Not a huge priority probably, Skins will look to upgrade if possible.

2. I think he'll test the market, not sure the Skins would push hard to keep him any way.

3. Helu and Vareen are similar players, my point is if you want Vareen you're basically getting another Helu but at a premium price. I'm not personally advocating for either guy.
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Old 02-02-2015, 03:51 PM   #176
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Re: 2015 Free Agents

at the end of the season, gruden was putting thompson in to pass block. he wasn't amazing at it, but he was better than the other three RBs.
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Old 02-03-2015, 10:13 AM   #177
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Re: 2015 Free Agents

Starting today teams can waive players from their rosters. Players with four or more seasons immediately become free agents and able to sign with any team while those with less than four years in the league are subject to the waiver system.

The Skins are fifth in line to claim a player with less than four years of service. I can see how this could conceivably help us but i have some questions.

First of all, why would teams want to waive players at this time? It seems to me that they might want to wait.

Secondly, if the Skins pick up a waived player, would they need to drop another player from their roster?

I'm having trouble grasping the benefits of these new rules.
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Old 02-03-2015, 11:11 AM   #178
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a new name for the list:

New England Patriots: Malcolm Butler
Oooo...something shiney!!!

Vinny! Vinny!
Where's Vinny????
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Old 02-03-2015, 12:09 PM   #179
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Re: 2015 Free Agents

Matty is right, we need better pass blocking from our RB's.

We need to find someone who can do what Helu does and block, too. It won't be a tragedy if we let Helu walk.

Chris Thompson has a hard time staying on the field. He's not the best replacement for Helu.
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Old 02-03-2015, 03:15 PM   #180
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a new name for the list:

New England Patriots: Malcolm Butler
Exactly the kind of player SM needs to find. Undrafted FA that can come in and add quality depth. Not start right away but be a 3rd or 4th corner.
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