Santana Moss

[irish]

Originally Posted by SirLK26

Santana was one of the reasons I became a fan. Ring of famer for sure.

Moss was a nice player but a Ring of Famer, no way.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by irish

Moss was a nice player but a Ring of Famer, no way.

3rd on the team all time with 581 catches, I think he will get a spot someday.

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

3rd on the team all time with 581 catches, I think he will get a spot someday.

Agreed. In addition to his numbers, he was a Cowboy killer par excellence.

[Meks]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

3rd on the team all time with 581 catches, I think he will get a spot someday.

3rd all time in this franchise is impressive in its own right. Add in what he MEANT and DID for the franchise, I think his time served here will be rewarded we will just have to see how.

[MTK]

His numbers stack up pretty well

Washington Redskins All-time Leading Receivers - The Football Database

[53Fan]

Especially considering the QB's he played with, I'd say Santana had a HELL of a career.

[SolidSnake84]

Originally Posted by Meks

3rd all time in this franchise is impressive in its own right. Add in what he MEANT and DID for the franchise, I think his time served here will be rewarded we will just have to see how.

This is a great quote. We really haven't had a real QB in almost 15 years. To make those kind of numbers with basically castoffs / washouts throwing to him is pretty impressive.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by 53Fan

Especially considering the QB's he played with, I'd say Santana had a HELL of a career.

Moss played with so much toughness and heart, it outweighs the numbers. It bothers me to hear fellow fans talk negative of the dude. Santana will always be one of my favorite skins.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by irish

Moss was a nice player but a Ring of Famer, no way.

I agree

[irish]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

His numbers stack up pretty well

Washington Redskins All-time Leading Receivers - The Football Database

Looking at the numbers really brings home to me that SM was a nice player but in no way a RoF'er. IMO the RoF is reserved for the greatest of em all and SM just doesnt qualify no matter how much heart and toughness he had.

[JoeRedskin]

Currently, there are 46 members of the RoF. The receivers on the list are:
Charley Taylor
Bobby Mitchell (Listed as a Flanker)
Gary Clark
Art Monk
Wayne Millner (listed as an end)
(Also, Jerry Smith, TE, is also included)

Obviously, there are many on the list of "80 Greatest Redskins" who are not in the RoF. The receivers on the "80 Greatest" but not on the RoF are Roy Jefferson and Ricky Sanders (Don Warren, TE - as an aside, surprised Clint Didier not on the 80 Greatest list).

So, should Santana leapfrog Jefferson and Sanders? Looking at the lists, I am not sure. the ROF is pretty exclusive, lots of HOF'ers keeping company there. In fact, you could make a case for the HOF for almost everyone on the list. While I think he is certainly on the next "80 Greatest" (or whatever number they next use), I think a case could be easily made that Santana doesn't quite make the RoF based on who is and isn't on the two lists. To me, it's really a borderline call and comes down to purely a matter of opinion.

[punch it in]

Ive always liked Moss. He is a Cane and a Redskin. He is getting alot of love rite now, but man there were alot of people ragging on him for having the dropsies over the last few years. I personally always thought he was pretty sure handed. Wish i could easily dig up and repost the negative comments about him.

[MTK]

If Snyder wants him in, he'll get in. Simple as that.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Ive always liked Moss. He is a Cane and a Redskin. He is getting alot of love rite now, but man there were alot of people ragging on him for having the dropsies over the last few years. I personally always thought he was pretty sure handed. Wish i could easily dig up and repost the negative comments about him.

Eh, fans rag on everyone at some point.

[artmonkforhallofamein07]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

If Snyder wants him in, he'll get in. Simple as that.

That is kinda my thinking Matty, Moss was one of Snyders guys and holds something special with the owner. He'll get in just based on the fact that the list of players during the Synder era is small that can even be considered. Samuels, Portis, ST, and Moss are the only ones I can think of the last few years who could be considered. Based on that Snyder will put a couple Of his guys in there.