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Old 09-05-2015, 08:58 PM   #346
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Well this article seems to tell the real story...

Washington Redskins to keep Robert Griffin III as backup QB

- - - Although Kirk Cousinswas named Washington's starting quarterback earlier this week, Redskins owner Daniel Snyder and president Bruce Allen want to keep Griffin despite the financial risk associated with retaining the former Heisman Trophy winner, a source told ESPN.- - -
Allen, and particularly Snyder, want to hold on to RG3? That sounds familiar

Anyhow, I know Redskins have been talking to some teams but I don't know how serious the talks have been. Still feel some team will step up, only takes one.
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Old 09-05-2015, 09:04 PM   #347
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If Griffin hasn't been cleared to play yet, and the Skins release him, aren't they potentially on the hook for this years salary and next years $16M ?
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Old 09-05-2015, 09:10 PM   #348
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If Griffin hasn't been cleared to play yet, and the Skins release him, aren't they potentially on the hook for this years salary and next years $16M ?
Well they can't release him until cleared, and if they do they'd be-I believe-off the hook if another team claims him
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Old 09-05-2015, 09:16 PM   #349
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Allen, and particularly Snyder, want to hold on to RG3? That sounds familiar

Anyhow, I know Redskins have been talking to some teams but I don't know how serious the talks have been. Still feel some team will step up, only takes one.
Bills, Chiefs and who else SS?
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Old 09-05-2015, 09:23 PM   #350
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Bills, Chiefs and who else SS?
I don't know
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Old 09-05-2015, 11:00 PM   #351
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I don't know
Are the Bills and Chiefs rumors true? Are we also looking at bringing back Daniels?
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Old 09-05-2015, 11:11 PM   #352
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If Griffin hasn't been cleared to play yet, and the Skins release him, aren't they potentially on the hook for this years salary and next years $16M ?

edit: Smoot's already on this it seems. Pretty much what he said.
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Old 09-05-2015, 11:19 PM   #353
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Are the Bills and Chiefs rumors true? Are we also looking at bringing back Daniels?
It's well well known Reid is a big fan...Alex smith I think is in his last year of contract.

Bills...just look at the worst line up of qb in the league. It would be very Rex of him to make the trade.

I don't think Cleveland or the Jets wouldnt make a trade. And actually think the jets are competent at the qb position.

We wouldn't trade to team in the east.

Dark horse...maybe the saints, Chicago and Cincy?
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Old 09-06-2015, 12:09 AM   #354
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We wouldn't trade to team in the east.
I would. He's easy to defend. Send a blitz every down and he'll panic.
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Old 09-06-2015, 04:18 AM   #355
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I would. He's easy to defend. Send a blitz every down and he'll panic.
LOL!

Absolutely!
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Old 09-06-2015, 09:26 AM   #356
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No doubt the 5th year option injury clause is an issue.

I don't think it can be assumed that Scott is all hung-ho to get Griffin off the team and Snyder is alone in wanting him on the team.

Scott inherited both Gruden and Griffin. I'm sure at this point its clear that Griffin isn't the best QB on this team to run J's offense and also clear that J isn't keen on catering his offense or continuing to develop Griffin.

But, I'm sure Scott is also evaluating J. Maybe J will prove to be right and Kirk makes a leap from last year when he wasn't able to hold on to the job. Kirk stepping up is what is best for the franchise.

But what if J's wrong? And Kirk can't hold it down?

Then Scott would have shipped off Griffin only to watch plan A fail. I'm guessing the idea behind keeping Griffin is similar to the reason Kirk was drafted in the 1st place. To hedge. Now, I'm not sure how the mechanics/logistics work out keeping Griffin on the team but I bet that is where the thought process is on the members of the FO that want to keep Griffin.
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Old 09-06-2015, 09:39 AM   #357
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No doubt the 5th year option injury clause is an issue.

I don't think it can be assumed that Scott is all hung-ho to get Griffin off the team and Snyder is alone in wanting him on the team.

Scott inherited both Gruden and Griffin. I'm sure at this point its clear that Griffin isn't the best QB on this team to run J's offense and also clear that J isn't keen on catering his offense or continuing to develop Griffin.

But, I'm sure Scott is also evaluating J. Maybe J will prove to be right and Kirk makes a leap from last year when he wasn't able to hold on to the job. Kirk stepping up is what is best for the franchise.

But what if J's wrong? And Kirk can't hold it down?

Then Scott would have shipped off Griffin only to watch plan A fail. I'm guessing the idea behind keeping Griffin is similar to the reason Kirk was drafted in the 1st place. To hedge. Now, I'm not sure how the mechanics/logistics work out keeping Griffin on the team but I bet that is where the thought process is on the members of the FO that want to keep Griffin.
I agree that Gruden is being evaluated but I believe SM has already evaluated Griffin. Moving to Cousins takes Grudens excuse away.

If Cousins and Gruden don't succeed, I believe we aren't going back to Griffin but instead looking to next year's draft. SM inherited all these guys and he has been giving each one some rope. We will see if any of these guys know how to use it to survive and not make a noose.

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Old 09-06-2015, 09:49 AM   #358
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I agree that Gruden is being evaluated but I believe SM has already evaluated Griffin. Moving to Cousins takes Grudens excuse away.
I agree that Scott has evaluated Griffin in this current system, in J's system. But, Scott has also witnessed one of his QBs struggle in one system, yet flourish in other. Who knows? *shrugs* all the leaks point to Griffin being gone. But, for me I can see a reason to keep him around.

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If Cousins and Gruden don't succeed, I believe we aren't going back to Griffin but instead looking to next year's draft. SM inherited all these guys and he has been giving each one some rope. We will see if any of these guys know how to use it to survive and not make a noose.
You're probably right that if Kirk doesn't succeed its back to the drawing board.....again. I really, really don't want to be there again. That's why I think J missed a real opportunity to buy himself time by drafting a QB this year. At least if these QBs fail he could look to a rook instead of Colt McCoy (who I like btw) as the QB of the future. That way there would at least be a reason not to dump him. But there is no way he fails with these QBs and gets to choose another, like you said it will be another HC. I would rather start again with Griffin then any of the prospects coming out next year. If you look at raw talent you aren't gonna get any better then Griff.
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Old 09-06-2015, 09:53 AM   #359
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Re: Cousins to start 2015 Season

it's probably more along the lines of the GM wants to get value if he can, even if it's just a 7th round pick or just 3m in cap space via a trade. I'm pretty sure he'd be looking for a new QB in the draft if this experiment doesn't work out.
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Old 09-06-2015, 10:05 AM   #360
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Re: Cousins to start 2015 Season

We all agree it's been determined rg3 is not the future, so there is no way we ever want him to see the field bc of the risk of 16 mil injury possibility.

We all agree we don't rg3 to sabotage 16 million of cap space?
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