Heartbreak City: Redskins-Saints Postgame Thread

[sdskinsfan2001]

Cousins does do some dumb ass stuff. His brain turns to much quite often at the end of halfs. That was a monumental fuck up based on above post.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I'm kind of tired of the Snyder bashing. Yes he and Allen aren't the best people to work for but what did that have to do w/ the loss today? That prevent defense that sucked shit had nothing to do with the owner and his bitch boy.

Definitely gets tiring to hear about it after every loss. We had our chances to win, the front office didn’t blow this game.

[skinsfaninok]

Our D and O sucks ass in the crucial moments of games. Both cave big time, Seattle was just luck they missed 3 fgs. We are what we are and that's a very avg and Injured team

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[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by mooby

Because he executed it like a timing play. He didn't look over there, just threw the ball expecting a receiver to be near. Those plays exist.

Bad call by Kirk and the coaching staff imo, but the game never should've come to that. That's on the d.

If it was a run play why would he expect crowder to be wandering around over there blocking no one? If the guy has no idea what you're doing maybe look before you chuck it. Stupid freaking decision. Call a damn audible or run the original play.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Our D and O sucks ass in the crucial moments of games. Both cave big time, Seattle was just luck they missed 3 fgs. We are what we are and that's a very avg and Injured team

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Have you ever thought that Minnesota and NO have some pretty good OL’s? Look what the vikings did to the rams today, dominated them. Our OL is missing 2
Starters, a 1/2 player at LT, D is missing Allen, Foster, Nicholson (early in the game), Ionnadis has one hand and Zack Brown is not himself (playing hurt). Those are two good teams we played and
Yes they fucked up.

[NC_Skins]

BJL1906‏ @Big_John_1906

Kirk is a very good QB. Jay is a very good HC. Great QBs don't make killer mental errors. Great coaches know when to avoid something that their teams do poorly. Neither are great so 9-7 is the perennial ceiling


Sums it up nicely about the situation.

[REDSKINS4ever]

Gruden was actually calling an excellent game up until the final two minutes...he stupidly called a third straight running play on 3rd and short knowing the Saints defense was looking for the run.... instead of calling a QB sneak....had he told Cousins to keep it the Saints would not have gotten the football back..... Gruden is incompetent as hell...

[jamf]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Are you really going to come on here and blame this game on Cousins? I just can't get over that. He may or may not have screwed up that play but so fucking what? He dropped numerous dimes all day, the o gave that high school defense a 15 point lead w/ like 5:00 to play. I don't give a damn what happened on that play, it should have never even come down to that if we have someone that could make a stop.

Do I blame him for losing the game? No

Do I blame him for not winning the game? Yes

He is the QB of the team, the pressure is on him but unfortunately he comes up with the mental version of the butt fumble.

On the biggest fucking play of the game (at the time) he makes a negative play that cost us yards and time.
Also, after the penalty he did not have the team ready for the next play and wasted 1/3 of the total time we had left.

Double fuck up!

[jamf]

On to blaming Gruden!

F this bum as well.
He comes out and targets Doctson with success early on. Their best corner goes out and we don’t throw to him again? Wtf

Gruden is too nice. Likes the players too much. Someone needed to cut Hall in the offseason. He is too broken down.

Grudens player rotation sucks. Running backs need carries. Slitting carries between 3 backs doesn’t work. Force the ball to your best players. Doctson needs 10-15 targets a game.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

If he can't handle the 2minute defense he shouldn't be given even an interim job.

What I really want to see is if Gruden can put away any of these teams coming up. We should beat all of them by comfortable margins.

Losing, even in the most gut wrenching fashion to the one of the top 3 teams in the league just isn't worth throwing out the head coach.

Comfortably might be pushing it. Lol. It isn’t all about today. Today was just the straw that broke the camels back imo. He made at-least 3-4 calls down the stretch and in OT that were just wrong. Not in retrospect, but in any spect. It is a recurring pattern for him. Getting away from things that work. Being cute when you do not have to be. Making things more difficult than they have to be. I do not think he will be fired during the season just because it doesn’t happen often. I can say comfortably that if we do not make the playoffs he will be fired in the off season. You know Danny boy is as pissed off as we are. This one was just unimaginable.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Are you really going to come on here and blame this game on Cousins? I just can't get over that. He may or may not have screwed up that play but so fucking what? He dropped numerous dimes all day, the o gave that high school defense a 15 point lead w/ like 5:00 to play. I don't give a damn what happened on that play, it should have never even come down to that if we have someone that could make a stop.

This is so true. It never, ever, ever, ever, ever should have been an issue IF, and that is a big if, Gruden calls a better play on third and nothing. Or if the D does not turn into absolute pussies before our very eyes. Or if our special teams didn’t go full spaz. Im not excusing KC in that moment. I am really not. But it shouldn’t even matter.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by jamf

On to blaming Gruden!

F this bum as well.
He comes out and targets Doctson with success early on. Their best corner goes out and we don’t throw to him again? Wtf

Gruden is too nice. Likes the players too much. Someone needed to cut Hall in the offseason. He is too broken down.

Grudens player rotation sucks. Running backs need carries. Slitting carries between 3 backs doesn’t work. Force the ball to your best players. Doctson needs 10-15 targets a game.

I can agree w/ this. However we were moving the ball and scoring. So even though Doc disappeared which is total BS, other guys were making plays.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by jamf

Do I blame him for losing the game? No

Do I blame him for not winning the game? Yes

He is the QB of the team, the pressure is on him but unfortunately he comes up with the mental version of the butt fumble.

On the biggest fucking play of the game (at the time) he makes a negative play that cost us yards and time.
Also, after the penalty he did not have the team ready for the next play and wasted 1/3 of the total time we had left.

Double fuck up!

I can name numerous other big plays that were fuck ups. I can name about 20 on defense but you want to blame one on the QB that kept you in the game and gave you a 15 point lead? Ok whatever... Personally Gruden just should have let the play go and not said anything to the QB... and get a few more yards for the kicker. You're already in FG range and they have no TO's. No need to do anything expect get a few more yards for your kicker.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

If it was a run play why would he expect crowder to be wandering around over there blocking no one? If the guy has no idea what you're doing maybe look before you chuck it. Stupid freaking decision. Call a damn audible or run the original play.

They didn't call an audible because it was too loud. Original play was bad because they had stacked the line for a run. It was a miscommunication, Kirk saw the coaches mouthing to throw it, but it was too loud for everybody to hear the audible. Kirk thought Crowder would be in the area, so he could get away with throwing it and no intentional grouding. Obviously it was a comms error.

[jamf]

That is true but you need a work horse at Wr you can go to on critical plays. Garçon was this guy. Jordan Reed was this guy.
On 3rd downs, they don’t trust anyone.
We can’t run a god damn slant on 3rd downs.
Wtf how does Gruden overlook this simple yet effective route?