The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0

MTK · 02-09-2018, 04:24 PM

Zero chance Kirk's deal doesn't exceed JG's.

CRedskinsRule · 02-09-2018, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by MTK

Zero chance Kirk's deal doesn't exceed JG's.

I tend to disagree. I think JG is all upside and potential, and they had to sign him now. KC has a track record that places him in a certain pecking order, and no team is forced to sign him, there are other options.

I will be interested to see where his number comes down, and I would not be shocked to see him wait until after the draft to sign.

skinsfan69 · 02-10-2018, 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by jamf

I'm not so sure he will get more than Jimmy G. I think the Garoppolo contract sets the ceiling for Kirk.

We've seen the best of KC and there is enough game to know exactly what you are getting.

Garoppolo arrived midseason for a 1 win team and won 5 in a row with three of those wins against playoff teams.

Garoppolo has a higher upside and is younger while KC is durable but is also a "Trust the process" QB.
I think Garoppolos momentum got him that contract and Kirks image has taken a hit lately.

I'm probably wrong since I thought he was going to get 28M Per last week but things have changed overnight.

Could not agree more.

mooby · 02-10-2018, 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

I tend to disagree. I think JG is all upside and potential, and they had to sign him now. KC has a track record that places him in a certain pecking order, and no team is forced to sign him, there are other options.

I will be interested to see where his number comes down, and I would not be shocked to see him wait until after the draft to sign.

I feel like you're forgetting supply and demand. There aren't enough good qb's to go around, and Kirk is a good qb. All it takes is one.

NC_Skins · 02-10-2018, 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by MTK

Zero chance Kirk's deal doesn't exceed JG's.

I have to agree with Matty on this. NO chance in hell he doesn't exceed JG's contract.

Schneed10 · 02-10-2018, 09:10 AM

Yeah you guys are losing the forest for the trees, it’s going to be a straight up bidding war for Kirk. Remember, skill or potential doesn’t drive the market, leverage does.

Defensewins · 02-10-2018, 11:05 AM

There is the small chance that Kirk takes slightly less money to be on a talented winning team or a team that is a QB away from being great. But does not have a Ton of cap space. Denver?

Schneed10 · 02-10-2018, 11:13 AM

I would say that if Denver has to clear the space for Kirk, they will be neither talented nor particularly winning.

CRedskinsRule · 02-10-2018, 03:03 PM

This is an odd year for Qb's. You have probably 3 or 4 similar guys available either as FA or through trades that are NFL quality but not elite.

For example If Denver could get Foles for their 2nd and a player like they tried for AS, that would be preferable for their salary cap then KC and cutting players. Case Keenum likewise fits AR as well as KC but at half the cost.

KC exaggerated his value with two FT in a row and showed himself likely to be difficult to negotiate with. Teams will look at all of that. Then teams still have several quality options in the draft.

Bottom line Kirks number is closer to AS worth than an elite top level QB, and teams have more options than might be normally available.

MTK · 02-10-2018, 04:57 PM

KC is going to get paid. Sorry but he’s not getting Alex Smith money. He’s set to be the top free agent period and will have multiple teams after him.

sdskinsfan2001 · 02-10-2018, 05:39 PM

AS > KC all day based on contracts and team chemistry. I think a QB that goes 8-8ish every year that is making 30 million dollars is terrible for team chemistry. Eventually guys are gonna resent not just that you're making that much, but that the team can't sign or keep other guys because you're making that much. Excited to move on and we'll draft our long term future QB to learn for a year or 2 next draft.

OmahaRedskins · 02-10-2018, 08:46 PM

KC will be the highest paid player until the Rodgers deal.

CRedskinsRule · 02-10-2018, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by OmahaRedskins

KC will be the highest paid player until the Rodgers deal.

You think he gets more than Brews? No way.

Giantone · 02-10-2018, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

You think he gets more than Brews? No way.

You mean Brees ,right ,or does he get paid in beer?

CRedskinsRule · 02-10-2018, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Giantone

You mean Brees ,right ,or does he get paid in beer?

Lol. Yup. 32M beers a year.

Yes Brees

02-09-2018, 04:24 PM	#661
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02-10-2018, 09:10 AM	#666
Schneed10 A Dude Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Newtown Square, PA Age: 45 Posts: 12,422	Re: The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0 Yeah you guys are losing the forest for the trees, it’s going to be a straight up bidding war for Kirk. Remember, skill or potential doesn’t drive the market, leverage does. __________________ God made certain people to play football. He was one of them.

02-10-2018, 11:05 AM	#667
Defensewins Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 3,749	Re: The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0 There is the small chance that Kirk takes slightly less money to be on a talented winning team or a team that is a QB away from being great. But does not have a Ton of cap space. Denver?

02-10-2018, 11:13 AM	#668
Schneed10 A Dude Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Newtown Square, PA Age: 45 Posts: 12,422	Re: The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0 I would say that if Denver has to clear the space for Kirk, they will be neither talented nor particularly winning. __________________ God made certain people to play football. He was one of them.

02-10-2018, 03:03 PM	#669
CRedskinsRule Living Legend Join Date: Aug 2008 Age: 57 Posts: 21,429	Re: The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0 This is an odd year for Qb's. You have probably 3 or 4 similar guys available either as FA or through trades that are NFL quality but not elite. For example If Denver could get Foles for their 2nd and a player like they tried for AS, that would be preferable for their salary cap then KC and cutting players. Case Keenum likewise fits AR as well as KC but at half the cost. KC exaggerated his value with two FT in a row and showed himself likely to be difficult to negotiate with. Teams will look at all of that. Then teams still have several quality options in the draft. Bottom line Kirks number is closer to AS worth than an elite top level QB, and teams have more options than might be normally available.

02-10-2018, 04:57 PM	#670
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,518	The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0 KC is going to get paid. Sorry but he’s not getting Alex Smith money. He’s set to be the top free agent period and will have multiple teams after him. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

02-10-2018, 05:39 PM	#671
sdskinsfan2001 Living Legend Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Hanahan, South Carolina Age: 41 Posts: 20,145	Re: The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0 AS > KC all day based on contracts and team chemistry. I think a QB that goes 8-8ish every year that is making 30 million dollars is terrible for team chemistry. Eventually guys are gonna resent not just that you're making that much, but that the team can't sign or keep other guys because you're making that much. Excited to move on and we'll draft our long term future QB to learn for a year or 2 next draft. __________________ "You can be my wingman anytime." "Bulls**t. You can be mine."

02-10-2018, 08:46 PM	#672
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