Week 2 Loss - Post Thoughts Here

HTTR · 09-15-2019, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by mooby

All that talk from Pam Oliver about Jay Gruden not liking AP because he's a north-south guy, wtf was up with that? If a guy is not a good scheme fit for you, why is he here?

I thought that was bizarre, especially coming right after (or before) AP busted a 5 yarder around the left side. It may just be a polite way of saying that our FO has their heads up their asses.

jamf · 09-15-2019, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by mooby

All that talk from Pam Oliver about Jay Gruden not liking AP because he's a north-south guy, wtf was up with that? If a guy is not a good scheme fit for you, why is he here?

What’s really odd is AP has been the only good back(statistically) under Gruden.

punch it in · 09-15-2019, 10:35 PM

This is the most terrible start to a football season ever.
Skins 0-2
Canes 1-2 (beat bethune cookman but i think u actually lose style points for playing them)
Suicide pool - Took Browns first week
Fantasy- 0-2
Fuck You football. Fuck you.

punch it in · 09-15-2019, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Offense has scored 48 points in two games. Defense has allowed 63 points in two games. Again, #FireManusky.

14 of those points were garbage time. Offense has its problems too. Yay us.

Hail to the Redskins · 09-15-2019, 10:42 PM

Just to add... maybe it's too early to judge Sweat or Collins (although after watching him rush for the 6 games, I'm predicting Sweat will be a massive bust), as they are having to play under the direction of the worst DC this side of Joe Barry.

A new DC and these guys may flourish, who knows? They just never will under Manusky.

Want more proof?

Preston Smith: 1.5 sacks last week, INT this week in GB
B. Breeland: INT today for Chiefs
K. Fuller: INT today for Chiefs

Guys leave here, perform ust as well, or better...guys come to this defense... and you get what you've seen from Z. Brown, J. Norman, L. Collins, etc.

...and if I remember correctly, Brown was Pro-Bowl production before keys to D were given to Manusky, right?

Chico23231 · 09-15-2019, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Hail to the Redskins

Just to add... maybe it's too early to judge Sweat or Collins, as they are having to play under the direction of the worst DC this side of Joe Barry.

Want more proof?

Preston Smith: 1.5 sacks last week, INT this week in GB
B. Breeland: INT today for Chiefs
K. Fuller: INT today for Chiefs

Guys leave here, perform ust as well, or better...guys come to this defense... and you get what you've seen from Z. Brown, J. Norman, L. Collins, etc.

Good point. I can’t believe the absolute bullshit job our front office and Jay has done with finding a d coordinator.

metalskins · 09-15-2019, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by mooby

All that talk from Pam Oliver about Jay Gruden not liking AP because he's a north-south guy, wtf was up with that? If a guy is not a good scheme fit for you, why is he here?

He had over 1000 yards rushing last year. Gruden is an idiot.

SouperMeister · 09-15-2019, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by 5superbowls3wins

Turned it off at halftime. I have better things to do with a Sunday afternoon. I also got tired of a looking at Redskins stadium with more Cowboys fans in it then the home team. We’ve completely lost home field advantage folks..

Snyder must resort to dumping large swaths of seats on StubHub because fans are no longer buying what he's selling.

rocnrik · 09-15-2019, 11:22 PM

Looking at schedule .. no way Gruden and staff wins more than 4 games ..we beat giants , dolphins and maybe two more but at thus point whatever it takes for major changes I’m all in.. including Bruce Allen gone, I never thought I would be this pessimistic about skins but I am!

punch it in · 09-15-2019, 11:24 PM

Manusky has been fired everywhere he ever coached. How these same dingbats keep landing jobs is mind numbing. I swear to God I don’t think there is any real vetting done before these guys sign their 7 figure offer sheets. Its just “yeah i used to coach with his brother in the college ranks and we both like the same television shows” - boom. Hired.

DynamiteRave · 09-15-2019, 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by rocnrik

Looking at schedule .. no way Gruden and staff wins more than 4 games ..we beat giants , dolphins and maybe two more but at thus point whatever it takes for major changes I’m all in.. including Bruce Allen gone, I never thought I would be this pessimistic about skins but I am!

I actually don’t mind not winning. Maybe it’ll inspire Snyder to clean house, we shoulda done that this off season but maybe a complete collapse will really drive the point home.

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calia · 09-15-2019, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by punch it in

This is the most terrible start to a football season ever.
Skins 0-2
Canes 1-2 (beat bethune cookman but i think u actually lose style points for playing them)
Suicide pool - Took Browns first week
Fantasy- 0-2
Fuck You football. Fuck you.

Rough patch, Punch. At least all but the Redskins might improve.

Honestly, we are giving up > 30 points and > 475 yards a game. I know the eagles and cowboys have talent, but that’s absurd. If Manusky isn’t gone soon, I’ll be pissed. I realize injuries to Allen, Dunbar, and Moreau aren’t helping, but this group is seriously underperforming.

I’d elevate Tomsula to DC. He’s at least passionate and will motivate guys. Hard to imagine anyone else decent being available to step in.

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SFREDSKIN · 09-16-2019, 12:12 AM

One thing I liked today is the way Steve Sims was used. That kid some high upside. Here’s a really good scouting breakdown on him:

https://uploads-ssl.webflow.com/5988...Steven_PDF.pdf

punch it in · 09-16-2019, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by calia

Rough patch, Punch. At least all but the Redskins might improve.

Honestly, we are giving up > 30 points and > 475 yards a game. I know the eagles and cowboys have talent, but that’s absurd. If Manusky isn’t gone soon, I’ll be pissed. I realize injuries to Allen, Dunbar, and Moreau aren’t helping, but this group is seriously underperforming.

I’d elevate Tomsula to DC. He’s at least passionate and will motivate guys. Hard to imagine anyone else decent being available to step in.

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I just don’t think BA and DS care that much about winning. They r making alot of money. I agree about Tomsula but I do not even think the brass gives a crap anymore.

skinsfaninok · 09-16-2019, 12:15 AM

Jay is begging to get fired, he will get his wish and he'll end up in vegas w his bro

09-15-2019, 10:35 PM	#78
punch it in From a Land Down Under Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: toms river, nj Age: 53 Posts: 23,770	Re: Week 2 Loss - Post Thoughts Here This is the most terrible start to a football season ever. Skins 0-2 Canes 1-2 (beat bethune cookman but i think u actually lose style points for playing them) Suicide pool - Took Browns first week Fantasy- 0-2 Fuck You football. Fuck you.

09-15-2019, 10:42 PM	#80
Hail to the Redskins The Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 1,687	Re: Week 2 Loss - Post Thoughts Here Just to add... maybe it's too early to judge Sweat or Collins (although after watching him rush for the 6 games, I'm predicting Sweat will be a massive bust), as they are having to play under the direction of the worst DC this side of Joe Barry. A new DC and these guys may flourish, who knows? They just never will under Manusky. Want more proof? Preston Smith: 1.5 sacks last week, INT this week in GB B. Breeland: INT today for Chiefs K. Fuller: INT today for Chiefs Guys leave here, perform ust as well, or better...guys come to this defense... and you get what you've seen from Z. Brown, J. Norman, L. Collins, etc. ...and if I remember correctly, Brown was Pro-Bowl production before keys to D were given to Manusky, right? __________________ “Sometimes it is not enough to our best; we must do what is required.” - Sir Winston Churchill (1874-1965)

09-15-2019, 11:22 PM	#84
rocnrik Playmaker Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 2,752	Re: Week 2 Loss - Post Thoughts Here Looking at schedule .. no way Gruden and staff wins more than 4 games ..we beat giants , dolphins and maybe two more but at thus point whatever it takes for major changes I’m all in.. including Bruce Allen gone, I never thought I would be this pessimistic about skins but I am!

09-15-2019, 11:24 PM	#85
punch it in From a Land Down Under Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: toms river, nj Age: 53 Posts: 23,770	Re: Week 2 Loss - Post Thoughts Here Manusky has been fired everywhere he ever coached. How these same dingbats keep landing jobs is mind numbing. I swear to God I don’t think there is any real vetting done before these guys sign their 7 figure offer sheets. Its just “yeah i used to coach with his brother in the college ranks and we both like the same television shows” - boom. Hired.

09-16-2019, 12:12 AM	#88
SFREDSKIN Living Legend Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Pacifica, CA Posts: 15,164	Re: Week 2 Loss - Post Thoughts Here One thing I liked today is the way Steve Sims was used. That kid some high upside. Here’s a really good scouting breakdown on him: https://uploads-ssl.webflow.com/5988...Steven_PDF.pdf __________________ Joe Gibbs- The best coach of all time, Lombardi trophy should be renamed Gibbs. Art Monk- Art was like an OL playing WR, doing the dirty work and not getting the glory. Darrell Green- Best DB ever. Purveyor of fine Filth

09-16-2019, 12:15 AM	#90
skinsfaninok Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UNITED STATES Age: 38 Posts: 36,157	Re: Week 2 Loss - Post Thoughts Here Jay is begging to get fired, he will get his wish and he'll end up in vegas w his bro __________________ “Mediocre people don’t like high achievers, and high achievers don’t like mediocre people.” ― Nick Saban

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