Taylor Effing Heinicke

[irish]

Originally Posted by MTK

20/36 sounds right for him. TH is giving us what we thought RF would give us and at a cheaper price. And he still has some upside.

Rivera was counting on much much more from RF than he's getting from TH.

https://washingtonfootballwire.usato...ylor-heinicke/

[MTK]

Originally Posted by irish

Rivera was counting on much much more from RF than he's getting from TH.

https://washingtonfootballwire.usato...ylor-heinicke/

Do you really think Ron thought he was getting a top 5 QB in RF??

Per the article PFF ranked RF #19 coming into this year, that's more like what Ron thought he was getting.

[SunnySide]

I think RR and Turner were looking for a game managing qb who can throw the ball to Gibson or Thomas on designed plays PLUS the ability to hit on the occassional long shot.

Stretching the field and not letting D only defend the first 20 yards from LOS was a big talking point coming into this season.

Heinike was hitting those seams to Thomas for good through air yards plays and I hope we can get that going. Effective when we need 15

[irish]

Originally Posted by MTK

Do you really think Ron thought he was getting a top 5 QB in RF??

Per the article PFF ranked RF #19 coming into this year, that's more like what Ron thought he was getting.

No. I think RR thought he was getting a dynamic QB who seemed to be getting better and could provide WFT with a deep threat QB that they haven't, and still don't have.

Don't get me wrong, I like TH and what he's doing now but the notion that WFT has somehow found its QB of the future is IMO ridiculous.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by irish

No. I think RR thought he was getting a dynamic QB who seemed to be getting better and could provide WFT with a deep threat QB that they haven't, and still don't have.

Don't get me wrong, I like TH and what he's doing now but the notion that WFT has somehow found its QB of the future is IMO ridiculous.

It might be equally as ridiculous to say they haven't. We just haven't seen enough.

[punch it in]

I really don’t care about the deep ball right now. It is no coincidence that our D is rising up as we are killing clock with long sustained drives. There is a happy chemistry on this team right now between the O and the D that we haven’t seen in forever. They are feeding off each other.

Teams still have to respect the deep ball with Terry and now Curtis back. So let TH chuck it every once in a while to keep the defense honest, but we make our living with runs, screens, and intermediate passes - LT gonna get in a groove soon. That is how you give the D the rest it needs. It is how they force 3 and outs late in games when you need stops.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by punch it in

I really don’t care about the deep ball right now. It is no coincidence that our D is rising up as we are killing clock with long sustained drives. There is a happy chemistry on this team right now between the O and the D that we haven’t seen in forever. They are feeding off each other.

Teams still have to respect the deep ball with Terry and now Curtis back. So let TH chuck it every once in a while to keep the defense honest, but we make our living with runs, screens, and intermediate passes - LT gonna get in a groove soon. That is how you give the D the rest it needs. It is how they force 3 and outs late in games when you need stops.

Exactly. TH can be enough of a threat with the WR corps we have. That's what opens the middle for LT and McKissic. If defenses stop respecting the deep routes then TH's future will be questionable.

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[skinsfaninok]

Scott Turners offense isn't set up for many deep shots anyway.. Even in Carolina they didn't do it much with Cam.

[AnonEmouse]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Scott Turners offense isn't set up for many deep shots anyway.. Even in Carolina they didn't do it much with Cam.

I do see similarities between Steve Smith and Scary...

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by AnonEmouse

I do see similarities between Steve Smith and Scary...

Me too , Smith was shorter but more stocky tho

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Originally Posted by punch it in

I really don’t care about the deep ball right now. It is no coincidence that our D is rising up as we are killing clock with long sustained drives. There is a happy chemistry on this team right now between the O and the D that we haven’t seen in forever. They are feeding off each other.

Teams still have to respect the deep ball with Terry and now Curtis back. So let TH chuck it every once in a while to keep the defense honest, but we make our living with runs, screens, and intermediate passes - LT gonna get in a groove soon. That is how you give the D the rest it needs. It is how they force 3 and outs late in games when you need stops.

I agree, and it's not like we're not taking shots. Normally Terry comes down with those, but it just wasn't in the cards. I think right now we're averaging 2-3 long balls a game, and that's about right considering #4's arm strength. Keep on completing 77% of your passes and we'll all be...

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

I agree, and it's not like we're not taking shots. Normally Terry comes down with those, but it just wasn't in the cards. I think right now we're averaging 2-3 long balls a game, and that's about right considering #4's arm strength. Keep on completing 77% of your passes and we'll all be...

Yup. Its refreshing to see coaches actually catering to our strengths.

[skinsfaninok]

https://www.theringer.com/nfl/2021/1...ll-team-future

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

https://www.theringer.com/nfl/2021/1...ll-team-future

I really like that write up. It seems pretty accurate, though the one detail he leaves out is Heinicke's limited start and practice time earlier this year and in his career.

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[skinsfaninok]

That GW drive was clutch by TH, on that first play he scrambled from pressure and released the ball before Bates even turned his head, great anticipation and catch too