70Chip Presents the #56Fanatic "Does LaVar Deserve Special Treament" Poll

[diehardskin2982]

yes, he has done nothing but has been a good player for the skins. he gets hurt and people turn their back on him... when we were terrible he said he wanted to stay a skin for life and continues to say it now. he should not be traded for Ray Lewis on anyone else for that matter

[Skins_4_Lyfe]

Originally Posted by TAFKAS

Some say that LaVar deserves better (perhaps special) treatment because he's been with us through the lean years and was once our best player. (and may still be if he could stay healthy). LaVar has been loyal and we should show him we'll go the extra mile for him.

Others say...so what. Bottom line is we were bad and now we're better and we've shown that we can win without him and his huge salary. We need to do what's best for the Redskins, not LaVar

What sayest thou?

(Thanks to TheMalcolmConnection for inspiring me to start another thread about LaVar)

I'm not sure if you’re trying to be humorous...if so I missed the joke. No one is saying that Lavar deserves to be placed above the team...the fact of the matter is that we don't know the real story behind Lavar and fans shouldn't be so quick to draw conclusion.

"Treated better"...No...How about being treated like a person; a human being!

[#56fanatic]

Wow, should I feel special?

1st off, I dont think he should get special treatment, no player should get special treatment. 2ndly, reworking his deal would save us a good bit of money on the cap for next year. I am not a big fan of reworking deals, but in this case with the cap hit being such a huge burden, and LaVar willing to take less money to stay here, why not! I do feel he has been, at times, treated unfairly. Now, whos guilty for that, who knows, not anyone here, and not me. we all have out OPINIONS on who is at fault. The fact is he is a good LB, at one time one of the best in the NFL. That was before the injury. At the end of the year, and through the playoffs he was a playmaker and put Sean Alexander out(clean or not) He means a lot to the fans and to the community. That doesn't mean we keep him for the fans sake, you can not run a team that way. However, it would be different if he had the talent of a waterboy. He will be back to 100%, should be back to his original playing weight which will bring back the quickness and stamina. He will also be much stronger with his legs and more than likely would be a better pass rusher. My vote for special treatment is NO. I am tired of the LaVar issue. we will see if he is here or not shortly.

[offiss]

I think the Skins have been more loyal to Lavar than he has to them. Has Lavar lived up to his contract? NO! Has he lived up to the elite status that a #2 pick in the draft should be? NO! And the fact that Lavar has been grossly overpaid he has the nerve to make a major stink about another 6 mil that he never had coming to begin with, as if the 68 mil wasen't double what he was worth to begin with, kind of like knocking off fort knox, and then going back to accuse someone of lifting your wallet.

Lavar has proven this much, he can easily be replaced by the likes of Lamar Marshall, and Chris Clemons, kind of funny we start winning as soon as Lavar hits the bench, so far he's shown we can lose with him, and win without him. You don't win football games because you have charisma, you win by playing smart football, that's something Lavar has yet to prove.

[70Chip]

If Greg Williams and Dale Lindsey determine that Lavar can be a solid contributor for the next few years , then we should do whatever is necessary to ease his cap burden and keep him here. If they believe his best days are behind him, then they should cut him loose unless keeping him for say, one more year somehow benefits our cap.

Any sentimental or heartstring type b.s. should not be considered when dealing with any personel decision. Those days ended when #28 retired (and well before that for all the other numbers) This is a league wher Joe Montana was let go by the 49ers. Where Emmitt Smith became a Cardinal. Jerry Rice was cut in pre-season by the Broncos. Art Monk, my God, Art Monk played for the gd Eagles. No special treatment.

BTW. Why is it that three seperate Lavar threads are booming while may brilliant, insightful post regarding the League of 9 Extraordinary Gentleman is ignored. I think it's because the anti-Lavarites enjoy hearing the pro-Lavarites make verbal googly eyes. I lova Lavara soa mucha. I can'ta liva without hima.

[#56fanatic]

Originally Posted by offiss

I think the Skins have been more loyal to Lavar than he has to them. Has Lavar lived up to his contract? NO! Has he lived up to the elite status that a #2 pick in the draft should be? NO! And the fact that Lavar has been grossly overpaid he has the nerve to make a major stink about another 6 mil that he never had coming to begin with, as if the 68 mil wasen't double what he was worth to begin with, kind of like knocking off fort knox, and then going back to accuse someone of lifting your wallet.

Lavar has proven this much, he can easily be replaced by the likes of Lamar Marshall, and Chris Clemons, kind of funny we start winning as soon as Lavar hits the bench, so far he's shown we can lose with him, and win without him. You don't win football games because you have charisma, you win by playing smart football, that's something Lavar has yet to prove.

dude, what are you talking about? Did he play his ass off before being injured? YES. did he put up pro-bowl numbers every year? YES. He had major knee injury that forced him out for basically two years. And to say about winning, our defense started playing alot better when he was in the games full time, if him being on the bench helped, I do believe Williams would have kept him there. Fact was, williams knew LaVar deserved, and earned PT. As he proved again the second half and in the playoffs, when he was as close to 100% as hes been in two years. Are you kidding me with this Clemons crap?, he is a 3rd down player, if he was any kind of player wouldn't he have been infront of Holdman. Hey, Danny gave him that money, LaVar signed the contract. Has Danny ever overpaid anybody? I believe about almost all the free agents he has signed have been overpaid compared to what other players with their stats generally get. This contract thing was dropped by LaVar, the Player Association did not drop it, hense the law suit against his agent filed by the PA. Get your facts straight before talking. of course I am going to be the LAVAR LOVER, bla bla bla, doesn't matter! I would stick up for any player on the team that deserved it.

[skinsguy]

No he doesn't deserve special treatment. Do I want him off the team? No, I can't say I do. I think Lavar is a shell of what he used to be, but I believe that probably has to do with all the playing time he missed with being injured. I'd give him another healthy season to make my decision on Lavar.

[MTK]

Poor LaVar.

Give me a break, I can't believe people actually fall for his sad sack routine.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Skins_4_Lyfe

I'm not sure if you’re trying to be humorous...if so I missed the joke. No one is saying that Lavar deserves to be placed above the team...the fact of the matter is that we don't know the real story behind Lavar and fans shouldn't be so quick to draw conclusion.

"Treated better"...No...How about being treated like a person; a human being!

Well there have been posts in the past that talk about how he's meant so much to the team, and he's the face of the organization, and remember how he was our best player back in 2002. Some quotes from TheWarpath.net:

"For all the Lavar Bashers...I'm not sure where all the negativity towards Lavar is coming from but it is not deserved. This guy has been the face of our franchise since he came on board and is guilty of nothing but wanting to win."

"Who cares about what he makes...he must of done something right to recieve the contract in the first place. As I stated before...it's not our place as fans to worry about what a player makes and rather he deserves it or not. If he is "overpaid", consider it compensation for all the BS that everyone has been putting him through."

"The man gave our defense an attitude and ferocity back when the 'skins were a struggling team."

"He was the face of the organization through thick and thin, during those bad years. He wants to be a Redskin for life. LOYALTY, us fans bitch about loyalty, that the players are here for the money, they have no loyalty. This guy has more loyalty to the Redskins than I have ever seen out of todays players."

And all I'm saying is should that matter? I think truthfully it's a factor, but it should not be the deciding factor. But for those that believe (and I'm pretty sure there are quite a few who do) that we "owe" LaVar something all I'm asking is why?

[That Guy]

those that say yes are mainly argueing an emotional attachment. his contract is horrible and he runs to the media to whine too much. If you give him special treatment than moss needs it too, and portis, and taylor, and....

moss and taylor are playing WAY above their contracts, have started every game, haven't whined to the media and have consistantly been more concerned with winning than playing time. of all the people on the team, lavar deserves nothing because he hasn't really played in two years and he's complained to the media every other week.

as for loyalty, you realize he's gotten MILLIONS to ride the bench and has 12mill more this year. he's been paid for his loyalty, and its killing the team due to the cap concerns its brought.

and you CANNOT rework his contract without a new CBA. If it isn't signed lavar's contract (danny's fault, not his) will single handedly nuke the roster.

[GoSkins!]

I think that we should keep Lavar because he likes apple pie... my favorite.

[That Guy]

"Who cares about what he makes...he must of done something right to recieve the contract in the first place. As I stated before...it's not our place as fans to worry about what a player makes and rather he deserves it or not. If he is "overpaid", consider it compensation for all the BS that everyone has been putting him through."

everyone should care because what he makes and whether he lives up to his contract directly affects the competitiveness of the team. like i said, no cba and HIS contract forces a mass release of players.

[Riggo44]

Lavar is my favorite Skin. But he should be dealt with like anyone else on the team. If Arrington reworks his contract He could be back next year. But I must say I would be happily surprised if he does.

[jdlea]

I voted yes just to piss everyone else off...lol.

But seriously, does he deserve "special" treatment? No. I think he should be treated just like any other Redskin...that means he's definitely gone. Big Deal + Any drop in production = A ticket out of Washington. That's how Snyder rolls.

What's the worst part about it is that everyone here turns on those players immediately after they get cut, like it's their fault. Did they make Snyder give them the huge money? No. But it'll happen with Portis and Taylor and Griffin and almost happened with Samuels and will probably happen with Washington and Jansen at some point.

That's what we do here. Not to put it all on Washington, that's today's NFL, but we're some of the worst offenders, IMO.

[44deisel44]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Hell no

No single player is above the team.

That wasn't question......Hell yeah..he deserves better....he's our boy!!!
....Geez..and when he's our D mvp next year? people will be breaking their knees jumping back on wagon.......:frusty: