When will Sean Taylor be in camp?

SKINSnCANES · 07-11-2004, 12:49 PM

He wouldnt have left school early if he didnt want to play. THe circumstances around him to seem a bit odd, but they are odd because he hastn explained them. Im sure he'll get an agent soon, sign and have a press conference. Of course they did say he was going to sign an agent last weekend didnt they?

skinsfanthru&thru · 07-12-2004, 12:29 AM

does anyone else think the possible $10,000 fine against Taylor for missing part of the rookie symposium is a tad harsh? especially for someone coming into the league and who had a legitimate excuse to leave. in the WP post on the subject they mentioned the league fined ryan leaf when he missed part of it because he was speaking at a children's football camp. How f-ed up is that that u r gonna fine a young player who went and talked at a kids camp instead of getting advice in an auditorium?

That Guy · 07-12-2004, 02:31 AM

because they think its that important, and if you let one guy out, then that lets other's make excuses or schedule excuses for those days. Its possibl the only time before the season they have to hammer home the importance of not wasting money, dealing with the public/media, expectations and the rest. Its in the leagues best interest and the players... and well, they obviously want to make sure everyone is there.

on a side note, i really wish taylor had an agent or PR guy to at least give some indication of what's up, cause he really seems to like keeping things quiet.

SmootSmack · 07-12-2004, 02:36 AM

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Originally Posted by skinsfanthru&thru

does anyone else think the possible $10,000 fine against Taylor for missing part of the rookie symposium is a tad harsh? especially for someone coming into the league and who had a legitimate excuse to leave. in the WP post on the subject they mentioned the league fined ryan leaf when he missed part of it because he was speaking at a children's football camp. How f-ed up is that that u r gonna fine a young player who went and talked at a kids camp instead of getting advice in an auditorium?

Oh jeez! Ryan Leaf giving advice to kids. I just hope Sean Taylor wasn't one of those kids back in '98.

MTK · 07-12-2004, 08:50 AM

It's obviously something that the NFL takes very seriously.

I'm willing to give Taylor the benefit of the doubt for now, but it would be nice to hear some positive things about him for a change!

No agent, missing practices, taking off from the rookie symposium, ugh!

sportscurmudgeon · 07-12-2004, 01:27 PM

Someone said that Joe Gibbs was going to step in and make all this work out. Can you explain how that will happen? Is Gibbs going to forge Taylor's signature on a contract? I doubt that he will give him an ultimatum to sign his contract by a certain date or the Skins are going to release him. Just what coercive power do you think Gibbs has here?

Look, Taylor does not have an agent as of this moment. Unless he is as dumb as a box of rocks, he will not try to negotiate his own contract the first time around. So until he hires an agent - or re-hires the one he fired - there will be no progress on negotiations no matter who the Skins assign to do the negotiating.

Once he hires an agent, that will determine how fast the negotiations proceed. There are agents out there whose standard tactic to to string things along until the team is desparate to get the guy into camp and that is how they think they get contract concessions. If Taylor picks one of these "slow progress" guys, you won't see him until after the 3rd preseason game. If he hires a guy who believes in long negotiating sessions to get to a deal, he could be signed withing a week or ten days after the new agent and the Skins begin talking.

So, what's the over/under on the number of days until Taylor hires an agent? Then, what's the probability that it will be a "fast-mover" as opposed to a "slow-progressor"?

My opinion is that Sean Taylor will not be going to Japan...

SmootSmack · 07-12-2004, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by sportscurmudgeon

My opinion is that Sean Taylor will not be going to Japan...

Japan?

joecrisp · 07-12-2004, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by smootsmack

Japan?

Make that Canton-- and not the one in China, either.

SmootSmack · 07-12-2004, 01:36 PM

I guess it would be time to start worrying if he really did go to Japan instead of Canton. LOL

MTK · 07-12-2004, 02:45 PM

Maybe Gibbs is threatening to send him to Japan if he doesn't sign?! LOL

sportscurmudgeon · 07-12-2004, 10:27 PM

Sorry about that gentlemen. I was fixated on the previous trip to Japan to play a pre-season game and my fingers typed the words before my brain was engaged. That's dangerous - - having your fingers in overdrive and your brain in neutral. :confused-

To restate my opinion more geographically correctly, I think Sean Taylor will miss the HoF game in Canton, Ohio against the Broncos.

BTW, John Thompson and Doc Walker had some less than polite and courteous things to say about Taylor and his maturity level and his focus today.

gibbsmeatitle · 07-12-2004, 10:59 PM

itvnetop · 07-12-2004, 11:03 PM

as long as taylor doesn't sign master p to represent him...

espn says that several players have been fined for missing the symposium for even more legitimate reasons for the player- dayne had an ear infection with a doctor's note saying he couldn't fly and some other guy was helping his sister give birth or something... maybe dayne should have gone anyway...

gibbsmeatitle · 07-12-2004, 11:05 PM

My first post so I'll keep it brief. This sounds like trouble a la one Michael Westbrook. I hope I'm wrong. I hope...

SmootSmack · 07-13-2004, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by sportscurmudgeon

Sorry about that gentlemen. I was fixated on the previous trip to Japan to play a pre-season game and my fingers typed the words before my brain was engaged. That's dangerous - - having your fingers in overdrive and your brain in neutral. :confused-

To restate my opinion more geographically correctly, I think Sean Taylor will miss the HoF game in Canton, Ohio against the Broncos.

BTW, John Thompson and Doc Walker had some less than polite and courteous things to say about Taylor and his maturity level and his focus today.

That's ok, you gave us all a good laugh today

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07-11-2004, 12:49 PM	#16
SKINSnCANES Pro Bowl Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: New Jersey Age: 44 Posts: 5,455	He wouldnt have left school early if he didnt want to play. THe circumstances around him to seem a bit odd, but they are odd because he hastn explained them. Im sure he'll get an agent soon, sign and have a press conference. Of course they did say he was going to sign an agent last weekend didnt they? __________________ "I'm used to winning, coming from the University of Miami. " Clinton Portis

07-12-2004, 01:36 PM	#24
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	I guess it would be time to start worrying if he really did go to Japan instead of Canton. LOL __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

07-12-2004, 12:29 AM	#17
skinsfanthru&thru Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Richmond, VA Age: 45 Posts: 3,815	does anyone else think the possible $10,000 fine against Taylor for missing part of the rookie symposium is a tad harsh? especially for someone coming into the league and who had a legitimate excuse to leave. in the WP post on the subject they mentioned the league fined ryan leaf when he missed part of it because he was speaking at a children's football camp. How f-ed up is that that u r gonna fine a young player who went and talked at a kids camp instead of getting advice in an auditorium?

07-12-2004, 02:31 AM	#18
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 43 Posts: 17,620	because they think its that important, and if you let one guy out, then that lets other's make excuses or schedule excuses for those days. Its possibl the only time before the season they have to hammer home the importance of not wasting money, dealing with the public/media, expectations and the rest. Its in the leagues best interest and the players... and well, they obviously want to make sure everyone is there. on a side note, i really wish taylor had an agent or PR guy to at least give some indication of what's up, cause he really seems to like keeping things quiet.

07-12-2004, 08:50 AM	#20
MTK Hail Raiser Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 53 Posts: 100,050	It's obviously something that the NFL takes very seriously. I'm willing to give Taylor the benefit of the doubt for now, but it would be nice to hear some positive things about him for a change! No agent, missing practices, taking off from the rookie symposium, ugh!

07-12-2004, 01:27 PM	#21
sportscurmudgeon Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,159	Someone said that Joe Gibbs was going to step in and make all this work out. Can you explain how that will happen? Is Gibbs going to forge Taylor's signature on a contract? I doubt that he will give him an ultimatum to sign his contract by a certain date or the Skins are going to release him. Just what coercive power do you think Gibbs has here? Look, Taylor does not have an agent as of this moment. Unless he is as dumb as a box of rocks, he will not try to negotiate his own contract the first time around. So until he hires an agent - or re-hires the one he fired - there will be no progress on negotiations no matter who the Skins assign to do the negotiating. Once he hires an agent, that will determine how fast the negotiations proceed. There are agents out there whose standard tactic to to string things along until the team is desparate to get the guy into camp and that is how they think they get contract concessions. If Taylor picks one of these "slow progress" guys, you won't see him until after the 3rd preseason game. If he hires a guy who believes in long negotiating sessions to get to a deal, he could be signed withing a week or ten days after the new agent and the Skins begin talking. So, what's the over/under on the number of days until Taylor hires an agent? Then, what's the probability that it will be a "fast-mover" as opposed to a "slow-progressor"? My opinion is that Sean Taylor will not be going to Japan...

07-12-2004, 02:45 PM	#25
MTK Hail Raiser Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 53 Posts: 100,050	Maybe Gibbs is threatening to send him to Japan if he doesn't sign?! LOL

07-12-2004, 10:27 PM	#26
sportscurmudgeon Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,159	Sorry about that gentlemen. I was fixated on the previous trip to Japan to play a pre-season game and my fingers typed the words before my brain was engaged. That's dangerous - - having your fingers in overdrive and your brain in neutral. :confused- To restate my opinion more geographically correctly, I think Sean Taylor will miss the HoF game in Canton, Ohio against the Broncos. BTW, John Thompson and Doc Walker had some less than polite and courteous things to say about Taylor and his maturity level and his focus today.

07-12-2004, 10:59 PM	#27
gibbsmeatitle Camp Scrub Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Tucson, AZ Age: 59 Posts: 4

07-12-2004, 11:03 PM	#28
itvnetop Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Los Angeles, CA Age: 49 Posts: 3,007	as long as taylor doesn't sign master p to represent him... espn says that several players have been fined for missing the symposium for even more legitimate reasons for the player- dayne had an ear infection with a doctor's note saying he couldn't fly and some other guy was helping his sister give birth or something... maybe dayne should have gone anyway...

07-12-2004, 11:05 PM	#29
gibbsmeatitle Camp Scrub Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Tucson, AZ Age: 59 Posts: 4	My first post so I'll keep it brief. This sounds like trouble a la one Michael Westbrook. I hope I'm wrong. I hope...

When will Sean Taylor be in camp?

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