postgame comments from Portis

Southpaw · 08-14-2006, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by BigSKINBauer

Coaches don't have to do it. If they choose to take someone out that is fine but the coaches weren't wreckless here. They didn't give portis 8 runs or a first quarter. They didn't make a mistake. What happened, happened. Coaches can't be to be put at fault for this. It was a series and to put this on a coach is dumb. I don't even know if that is what he was doing but if it was it was dumb. My opinion, my homer, band wagon, supposed fan opinion.

I agree that it's not the fault of the coaching staff. I was simply pointing out that Portis wasn't really out of line for speaking his mind, considering what had happened, and the fact that with starting tailbacks, it goes both ways. Some are pulled after a few plays, some play an entire quarter. I don't think he should be blasted for having a preference one way or the other.

memphisskin · 08-14-2006, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by CRT3

I guess my beef is with the owners, but Portis should really shut up and understand that he is not above everyone else. My point is that if he is not going to play then why should I be forced into payinng full fare.

I agree CRT3, you shouldn't have to pay full price to see people trying out for the Skins. But I don't think Portis was putting himself above everyone else, I think he was speaking on behalf of all veterans and not just himself. Four preseason games are a bit much, especially considering all the offseason work these guys do nowadays.

illdefined · 08-14-2006, 12:38 PM

There's no RB controversy.

Portis wasn't even hurt *running*, he was hurt in a support role where he's always clearly excelled. its also the most dangerous role for him, because he's asked to hit guys bigger than him. and boy does he.

there was no need for him to be there. he's right. (no need for Rudi Johnson to be either, aside from record home crowd attendance?). Portis deserves his opinion because of what he does on the field (and off frankly).

as a side note, Brandon Lloyd, spectacular catch aside - everyone knows you do that already- nice sideline pattern straight to the bench right after the interception. way to "stay healthy". is that what we should've expected out of Portis?

irish · 08-14-2006, 12:48 PM

CP and the other starters needed to be in that game for at least 1 series so they can slowly work their way into live game speed and shake off the rust so I have no problem with him being in there. What I do have a problem with is CP losing his situational awareness and trying to lay-out a guy in a game that does not count. If the Bengals get a TD or not it did not matter but CP had to be the tough guy, I hope this injury does not bother him all season.

Paintrain · 08-14-2006, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by irish

CP and the other starters needed to be in that game for at least 1 series so they can slowly work their way into live game speed and shake off the rust so I have no problem with him being in there. What I do have a problem with is CP losing his situational awareness and trying to lay-out a guy in a game that does not count. If the Bengals get a TD or not it did not matter but CP had to be the tough guy, I hope this injury does not bother him all season.

Are you actually ripping him for playing hard? In the heat of battle a competitor is supposed to think, hmm, this is a pre-season game maybe I'll just let a guy score on my team.. Are you kidding?

SmootSmack · 08-14-2006, 12:59 PM

As has been said here already, he was just frustrated. That's all. It's not unlike when half the people on this site start saying cut this guy, trade that guy, should have kept Ramsey, Gibbs is done, we need a GM, blah blah blah after any loss or even any bad play. You can't put too much stock in it really.

memphisskin · 08-14-2006, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by irish

CP and the other starters needed to be in that game for at least 1 series so they can slowly work their way into live game speed and shake off the rust so I have no problem with him being in there. What I do have a problem with is CP losing his situational awareness and trying to lay-out a guy in a game that does not count. If the Bengals get a TD or not it did not matter but CP had to be the tough guy, I hope this injury does not bother him all season.

Huh? So go full speed, only don't play hard? That's not football. The lights are on, if u hit the field the coaches want your full effort and the fans deserve it. That said, no reason for Portis to even dress in the first preseason game. The plays they run are not going to be the ones they run in the regular season.

redskinsfanatic · 08-14-2006, 01:17 PM

portis needed to be out there just as much as moss,lloyd,brunnell and every other starter did!they have to get used to taking a pounding the next 5 months,and the only way you can do that is by playing!i have seen the skins in this situation before with joe gibbs running the show,and just like all those other times somebody is gonna have to step it up,and do his best to be as productive as portis if that is possible!i would not be surprised to see the skins pick up a veteran rb to keep until portis can play either.gibbs knows what he is doing,i think that being a hall of fame coach and 3 time superbowl winner earns you that does'nt it????

Monkeydad · 08-14-2006, 01:33 PM

All controversy about comments aside, that was a GREAT hit by Portis. I was cheering when he did it and then everything went south from there.

I just wish he hadn't tried to be Sean Taylor.

NAVYSKINSFAN · 08-14-2006, 01:41 PM

CP has never said or done anything that rubbed me the wrong way EXCEPT this. Even if he was frustrated he had no business throwing Mr Gibbs under the bus like that. Of course he should play the preseason game. Not the whole game or even the first quarter, but a few series is not too much to ask.

12thMan · 08-14-2006, 02:10 PM

I'm not disappointed in Portis one iota. He said what he said. It neither damaged his standing with teammates nor the staff, in my opinion.

You have to take the good with the bad. We can't expect Portis to be very outspoken and positive about the Skins one minute and not ever show his frustration the next. He was being interviewed in the heat of the moment. Some of the standards we hold athletes to are justified and others are just plain ridiculous.

As far as Gibbs not needing to apologize to Clinton, you guys are right he shouldn't have to but he did. I think he did so because that's how he handles things. That's his way of maintaining peace and control of his locker room. Before anything becomes public spectable Gibbs will nip it in the bud. He knows how to down play things to the media, yet be very intense and confrontational with his players in private. He and Clinton we're talking on the sidelines afterward, and probably have a few words since.

Darrell_Green_28 · 08-14-2006, 02:14 PM

Basically we are very thin at a position that was full before the preseason. If I am correct we also lost Kerry Carter for the SEASON in this game...Betts is banged up dont know if i wanna rely on Rock. Lumsdon(SP) is hurt.. damn who do we have. and any updates on Portis. i wouldnt care if he plays again in the preseason but how sure are we he will be available for the season opener especially the next game wk 2 would definitely need him.

BigSKINBauer · 08-14-2006, 06:14 PM

portis updates

KFFL Breaking News
Portis injury update

Ryan O'Halloran, of the Washington Times, reports Washington Redskins RB Clinton
Portis (shoulder) may not miss the rest of the preseason, but head coach Joe Gibbs said, "It's going to be a while before he'll play." X-rays were negative but an MRI revealed a shoulder subluxation, a temporary and partial separation caused when the ball of the upper arm slips out of the socket.

"Let's get rid of some of these preseason games," said Portis. Redskins' director of sports medicine Bubba Tyer said it will be a couple days before the team knows how long Portis will be out. Portis remained disappointed. "But even if it's not serious, to be nicked going into Week 1, how often do you think defensive coordinators are going to blitz me?" he said.
'

ALSO THERE IS THIS

Portis has MRI on dislocated shoulder - NFL - MSNBC.com

We will know a lot more in 15 minutes when gibbs gives the presser.

Longtimefan · 08-14-2006, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

What do you guys make of Portis's postgame comments?

He was probably just frustrated over the situation, but I'm sure his comment about being injured in a game he had no business playing in will rub some fans the wrong way.

Portis's comments probably reflect the feelings of many players as well as fans around the league, as well as the mindset of todays player. Some of us remember when we played six pre-season games and didn't get paid either. The regular season was shorter,( twelve games) but that would be virtually hard to stomach now with players complaining so much about four games. Maybe key players (as they are refered) shouldn't play in pre-season at all.

mheisig · 08-14-2006, 06:34 PM

I don't hold it against him in the least.

The guy had a 1500+ yard season last year, he gives everything he's got on every play, and I'm sure both he and the coaches know that. He has nothing to prove in preseason, and like Offiss said, RBs hardly need any practice at all in the preseason to get back into form.

Besides, I remember him saying last year that late in the season the thing that hurts him the most is his shoulders. If I were him I'd be pissed too - risking my health and regular season for a meaningless preseason game. I think he showed character in that he went out and played when the coaches told him to, and he played with all his heart at 100% - not some half-assed effort like some people here seem to be suggesting.

If it's anyone's fault it's the coaches - but I think they've learned their lesson. We won't CP the rest of the preseason.

08-14-2006, 12:38 PM	#63
illdefined Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: nyc Age: 48 Posts: 2,631	Re: postgame comments from Portis There's no RB controversy. Portis wasn't even hurt running, he was hurt in a support role where he's always clearly excelled. its also the most dangerous role for him, because he's asked to hit guys bigger than him. and boy does he. there was no need for him to be there. he's right. (no need for Rudi Johnson to be either, aside from record home crowd attendance?). Portis deserves his opinion because of what he does on the field (and off frankly). as a side note, Brandon Lloyd, spectacular catch aside - everyone knows you do that already- nice sideline pattern straight to the bench right after the interception. way to "stay healthy". is that what we should've expected out of Portis? __________________ a fan. not a cheerleader.

08-14-2006, 12:48 PM	#64
irish Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 4,575	Re: postgame comments from Portis CP and the other starters needed to be in that game for at least 1 series so they can slowly work their way into live game speed and shake off the rust so I have no problem with him being in there. What I do have a problem with is CP losing his situational awareness and trying to lay-out a guy in a game that does not count. If the Bengals get a TD or not it did not matter but CP had to be the tough guy, I hope this injury does not bother him all season.

08-14-2006, 12:59 PM	#66
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: postgame comments from Portis As has been said here already, he was just frustrated. That's all. It's not unlike when half the people on this site start saying cut this guy, trade that guy, should have kept Ramsey, Gibbs is done, we need a GM, blah blah blah after any loss or even any bad play. You can't put too much stock in it really. __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

08-14-2006, 01:17 PM	#68
redskinsfanatic Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 542	Re: postgame comments from Portis portis needed to be out there just as much as moss,lloyd,brunnell and every other starter did!they have to get used to taking a pounding the next 5 months,and the only way you can do that is by playing!i have seen the skins in this situation before with joe gibbs running the show,and just like all those other times somebody is gonna have to step it up,and do his best to be as productive as portis if that is possible!i would not be surprised to see the skins pick up a veteran rb to keep until portis can play either.gibbs knows what he is doing,i think that being a hall of fame coach and 3 time superbowl winner earns you that does'nt it????

08-14-2006, 01:33 PM	#69
Monkeydad Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: PA Age: 45 Posts: 17,460	Re: postgame comments from Portis All controversy about comments aside, that was a GREAT hit by Portis. I was cheering when he did it and then everything went south from there. I just wish he hadn't tried to be Sean Taylor.

08-14-2006, 01:41 PM	#70
NAVYSKINSFAN Special Teams Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Norfolk va Age: 43 Posts: 150	Re: postgame comments from Portis CP has never said or done anything that rubbed me the wrong way EXCEPT this. Even if he was frustrated he had no business throwing Mr Gibbs under the bus like that. Of course he should play the preseason game. Not the whole game or even the first quarter, but a few series is not too much to ask. __________________ Only the strong survive! Just win baby! I'll make ya famous!

08-14-2006, 02:10 PM	#71
12thMan MVP Join Date: May 2005 Location: washington, D.C. Posts: 11,460	Re: postgame comments from Portis I'm not disappointed in Portis one iota. He said what he said. It neither damaged his standing with teammates nor the staff, in my opinion. You have to take the good with the bad. We can't expect Portis to be very outspoken and positive about the Skins one minute and not ever show his frustration the next. He was being interviewed in the heat of the moment. Some of the standards we hold athletes to are justified and others are just plain ridiculous. As far as Gibbs not needing to apologize to Clinton, you guys are right he shouldn't have to but he did. I think he did so because that's how he handles things. That's his way of maintaining peace and control of his locker room. Before anything becomes public spectable Gibbs will nip it in the bud. He knows how to down play things to the media, yet be very intense and confrontational with his players in private. He and Clinton we're talking on the sidelines afterward, and probably have a few words since.

08-14-2006, 02:14 PM	#72
Darrell_Green_28 The Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Robert, Louisiana Age: 56 Posts: 2,119	Re: postgame comments from Portis Basically we are very thin at a position that was full before the preseason. If I am correct we also lost Kerry Carter for the SEASON in this game...Betts is banged up dont know if i wanna rely on Rock. Lumsdon(SP) is hurt.. damn who do we have. and any updates on Portis. i wouldnt care if he plays again in the preseason but how sure are we he will be available for the season opener especially the next game wk 2 would definitely need him.

08-14-2006, 06:14 PM	#73
BigSKINBauer Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Washington, DC Age: 36 Posts: 5,688	Re: postgame comments from Portis portis updates KFFL Breaking News Portis injury update Ryan O'Halloran, of the Washington Times, reports Washington Redskins RB Clinton Portis (shoulder) may not miss the rest of the preseason, but head coach Joe Gibbs said, "It's going to be a while before he'll play." X-rays were negative but an MRI revealed a shoulder subluxation, a temporary and partial separation caused when the ball of the upper arm slips out of the socket. "Let's get rid of some of these preseason games," said Portis. Redskins' director of sports medicine Bubba Tyer said it will be a couple days before the team knows how long Portis will be out. Portis remained disappointed. "But even if it's not serious, to be nicked going into Week 1, how often do you think defensive coordinators are going to blitz me?" he said. ' ALSO THERE IS THIS Portis has MRI on dislocated shoulder - NFL - MSNBC.com We will know a lot more in 15 minutes when gibbs gives the presser.

08-14-2006, 06:34 PM	#75
mheisig The Starter Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: The Southeast Age: 41 Posts: 2,119	Re: postgame comments from Portis I don't hold it against him in the least. The guy had a 1500+ yard season last year, he gives everything he's got on every play, and I'm sure both he and the coaches know that. He has nothing to prove in preseason, and like Offiss said, RBs hardly need any practice at all in the preseason to get back into form. Besides, I remember him saying last year that late in the season the thing that hurts him the most is his shoulders. If I were him I'd be pissed too - risking my health and regular season for a meaningless preseason game. I think he showed character in that he went out and played when the coaches told him to, and he played with all his heart at 100% - not some half-assed effort like some people here seem to be suggesting. If it's anyone's fault it's the coaches - but I think they've learned their lesson. We won't CP the rest of the preseason. __________________ Your post count, reputation score, popularity ranking, VIP tag or funny signature has no bearing on how I value you as an individual.

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