Do you really wanna see anymore todd collins?

RiggoRules · 08-31-2006, 05:03 PM

I really do want to see more Todd Collins.

ON THE BACK OF A FREAKING MILK CARTON.

dmek25 · 08-31-2006, 05:11 PM

wasnt cunningham also a punter at unlv?

SmootSmack · 08-31-2006, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by dmek25

wasnt cunningham also a punter at unlv?

Little known fact: Cunningham's backup at UNLV.....Kenny Mayne

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 08-31-2006, 07:32 PM

I'm not sure why Todd Collins is getting drilled here. Can anyone possibly tell me why he is being singled out when, at least statistically, all of the quarterbacks have played awfully this preseason? Campbell has looked decent, but far from stellar. Moreover, the O-line, wideouts, running backs, etc. have looked pretty weak.

IMHO Todd Collins is being scapegoated.

RiggoRules · 08-31-2006, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

IMHO Todd Collins is being scapegoated.

Here is why I've come down so hard on TC and why I don't think he's being "scapegoated" (is that a word?)...

His numbers are not the issue. Specific plays he has made are nothing short of horror movie stuff. Somebody who has been in the league as long as he has should not be having so many spectacular breakdowns in terms of fundamentals.

I'm not sure how anyone could watch the play of all three QBs and think he has compared favorably to the other two.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 08-31-2006, 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by RiggoRules

I'm not sure how anyone could watch the play of all three QBs and think he has compared favorably to the other two.

I agree that he has not played well this preseason. But, then again, who has? That is my only point. Have Archuleta, ARE, Lloyd, Carter or any of the other recent additions looked good? No. But it's just the preseason.

Alvin#40 · 09-01-2006, 04:29 AM

Yeah. I'm tired of this Collins guy. Maybe we should start him.

ArtMonkDrillz · 09-01-2006, 08:27 AM

I know he pretty much only threw really short passes but Collins looked decent, IMO, last night. I could be way off though, I did leave the game at the start of the 4th.
Really the worst throw he had was the one that got tipped up in the air by the D lineman and Collins had to bat it down like an old lady swatting at a bee.

dmek25 · 09-01-2006, 09:05 AM

amd, after last night ill bet someone will want collins starting. threw the ball well. had 2 td passes dropped. and generally looked like he knew what he was doing. if i didnt learn anything about the skins this preseason, the one thing i did learn is our backup offensive lineman are terrible

That Guy · 09-01-2006, 09:29 AM

collins only looked good against 4th stringers. if anyone wants him starting after that, they should be shot

TheMalcolmConnection · 09-01-2006, 09:29 AM

I reserved my final judgement for Collins after he had a line actually protect him.

ArtMonkDrillz · 09-01-2006, 09:47 AM

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amd, after last night ill bet someone will want collins starting. threw the ball well.

Don't get me wrong, I am not that someone.

RiggoRules · 09-01-2006, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

I agree that he has not played well this preseason. But, then again, who has? That is my only point. Have Archuleta, ARE, Lloyd, Carter or any of the other recent additions looked good? No. But it's just the preseason.

Comparing TC to all of those other players is a bit flawed since the QB position is the only one that handles the ball ever single play. Now, should you insist on making that comparison, I'll argue he has played the worst. So badly in fact, that if not for the AS relationship and salary cap, his next game would be in Canada.

But like I said, that comparison is flawed. You have to compare him to other QBs. Even after his performance last night (the refs let him get away with a clear INT against UPS drivers), he has performed the worst of the three QBs. I'll go as far as to say, I would take any other teams #2 in exchange for TC and feel like we ripped them off.

In other words, if TC is the #2 QB then we will have the very worst #2 QB in the league.

ArtMonkDrillz · 09-01-2006, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by RiggoRules

In other words, if TC is the #2 QB then we will have the very worst #2 QB in the league.

Looks like someone already forgot that Jeff George is back in the league.

MTK · 09-01-2006, 10:29 AM

The way I see it everyone has looked bad during these preseason games. The true measure of the players will come from the coaches and what they've seen behind closed doors in practice, which is probably alot different from what we've seen in these meaningless games.

I'm already preparing for the massive freakout once Collins is named the #2. He's definitely the new scapegoat flavor of the month.

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08-31-2006, 07:32 PM	#109
Sheriff Gonna Getcha Franchise Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 45 Posts: 8,317	Re: Do you really wanna see anymore todd collins? I'm not sure why Todd Collins is getting drilled here. Can anyone possibly tell me why he is being singled out when, at least statistically, all of the quarterbacks have played awfully this preseason? Campbell has looked decent, but far from stellar. Moreover, the O-line, wideouts, running backs, etc. have looked pretty weak. IMHO Todd Collins is being scapegoated.

09-01-2006, 04:29 AM	#112
Alvin#40 Special Teams Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Born Va now Phx, Az Age: 54 Posts: 164	Re: Do you really wanna see anymore todd collins? Yeah. I'm tired of this Collins guy. Maybe we should start him.

09-01-2006, 08:27 AM	#113
ArtMonkDrillz Franchise Player Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Ellicott City, MD Age: 42 Posts: 8,029	Re: Do you really wanna see anymore todd collins? I know he pretty much only threw really short passes but Collins looked decent, IMO, last night. I could be way off though, I did leave the game at the start of the 4th. Really the worst throw he had was the one that got tipped up in the air by the D lineman and Collins had to bat it down like an old lady swatting at a bee. __________________ "Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." The Dude

09-01-2006, 09:05 AM	#114
dmek25 MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 63 Posts: 10,672	Re: Do you really wanna see anymore todd collins? amd, after last night ill bet someone will want collins starting. threw the ball well. had 2 td passes dropped. and generally looked like he knew what he was doing. if i didnt learn anything about the skins this preseason, the one thing i did learn is our backup offensive lineman are terrible __________________ "It's better to be quiet and thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt." courtesy of 53fan

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That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 42 Posts: 17,553	Re: Do you really wanna see anymore todd collins? collins only looked good against 4th stringers. if anyone wants him starting after that, they should be shot

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