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Old 09-24-2006, 07:33 PM   #31
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I think it was a combo of a bad team meeting a good team that is just starting to wake up.

Today's positives:

--The offensive line controlled the line of scrimmage. If it wasn't for the penalties it would have been a flawless performance.

--We finally got Brunell in a rhythm. I don't care if it was just short and quick stuff, the bottom line is he got the job done and got everyone involved. That will work wonders for his confidence. If anyone needed a game like that it was him.

--Yes Portis is that important. He's the straw that stirs the Redskins' drink. He changes the entire dynamic of this offense.

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--Penalties, penalties, penalties.
definitely the flags, some of those holding calls were weak, I hope the refs aren't givin us a rep
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Old 09-24-2006, 07:35 PM   #32
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also the PI on Rogers, AJ grabbed him by the neck!
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Old 09-24-2006, 07:36 PM   #33
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also the PI on Rogers, AJ grabbed him by the neck!
Yeah but Carlos never looked back until after he ran in to the receiver!!! Bad Coverage!!
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Old 09-24-2006, 07:52 PM   #34
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I don't care how we win, so long as we win. However, I think that it is difficult to run a ball-control offense if you don't occasionally go deep. A good ball-control offense runs it, runs it, runs it, and throws deep balls to keep defenders off balance. I do not think it will be possible to run the kind of offense we ran today next week against JAX.
I agree that eventually we do need to go deep, but I also believe we keep running it like we did today, and we keep building Brunell up with those smaller, high percentage passes, and eventually receivers are going to get open deep. Today was about getting some confidence back into Mark Brunell and the rest of the offense. Hopefully they will build from there.
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Old 09-24-2006, 07:56 PM   #35
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I am not saying we should have bombed away on offense. But I was concerned that our longest pass play was about 15 yards.
In our previous 2 games the defenses were all up on the line of scrimmage, meaning they did not respect our passing game. Anyone watching the films of today's game would not respect the passing game either. We did a salutable job on making them fear our run though. The Texans did an absolutely horrendous job of adjusting on defense. We took advantage. There are plenty of positives to take out of this game, but the 22 straight completions doesn't take away from the fact that our passing game is still not clicking.
Right, BUT you have to start somewhere, and I think how the play calling today, and the passes that Brunell chose to throw today, is exactly what Brunell needs in order to get himself playing better. This is what you have to do...play with your players' strengths, and eventually the offense is going to open up so we will see some deep passes. Defenders are going to start crowding the line to stop the short passes and the running, and that is when you start throwing it deep. We just have to be patient.
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Old 09-24-2006, 08:09 PM   #36
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in the first half brunell through every ball less than 10yards down the field, he was 24/27 in think but they were short passes, still hasnt fixed our downfield problems, next week we play jacksonville, that will be the real test........


I don't think we'll be able to play that kind of football and beat Jacksonville. It worked today because the Texans are inept. The short passing game was good for Brunell's confidence, we got a win, and JG does not have to listen to the bench Brunell stuff for a whole week. So, he's off the hook at least for this week, but I just don't think dinking and dunkin will get it done next week. Glad we got a win, will take them any way I can get them.
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Old 09-24-2006, 08:35 PM   #37
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The question is always posed, do we look that good, or do they look THAT bad...I think they looked that bad.
Don't get me wrong, I saw significant improvement in the call playing on D, and the offensive line, however a HUGE issue for us was that Brunell could not see downfield and was afraid to open the offense. I feel that issue is still a major issue. We beat them with the same offensive scheme we employed vs Dallas and the Vikes. ie: screen passes and dink dumps. That theory proved not to work vs Dallas and Minnesota so why did we stick with it today?
We face the Jags next week and a stout defense, yet I don't feel our offense is actually clicking. (yes, I do realize the amount of yards we put up) Our secondary still looked amazingly weak too. Hopefully we gained a lot of confidence though...you can't put a price tag on that.
Positives: what a running game!!! That was impressive. The dirt bags controlled the line of scrimmage, and having Portis back was outstanding.
Better play calling on defense, especially better penetration by d-line. So there is a lot to build on, but I feel we faced a weak team more than we came together.
What do you guys think?
I think a WIN is a WIN. We didn't just "squeak" by, as some of you guys thought. The score wasn't 17-10. We really BEAT them. HAIL!!!!
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I think a WIN is a WIN. We didn't just "squeak" by, as some of you guys thought. The score wasn't 17-10. We really BEAT them. HAIL!!!!
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Old 09-24-2006, 08:54 PM   #39
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No doubt Houston is weak. But as folks have been saying, we did what we needed to do--pound a weak team into submission with ball control.

Remember, this is STILL a very new offense. It takes time to get a rhytm, especially on the longer passing game. This game was the perfect way to get some of that rhythm. We're of course going to have to be better. But this is a start. Now it's back home for JAX, and we'll see if we can do it against a good team.

PS I really don't see how one can bitch about Brunnell in a game where he sets an NFL record for passes completed in a row and leads the team to 28 points. Cripes, what do y'all want from him? To morph into Dan Marino suddenly at age 36? He is what he is, and Saunders did a great job exploiting his skills today.
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No doubt Houston is weak. But as folks have been saying, we did what we needed to do--pound a weak team into submission with ball control.

Remember, this is STILL a very new offense. It takes time to get a rhytm, especially on the longer passing game. This game was the perfect way to get some of that rhythm. We're of course going to have to be better. But this is a start. Now it's back home for JAX, and we'll see if we can do it against a good team.

PS I really don't see how one can bitch about Brunnell in a game where he sets an NFL record for passes completed in a row and leads the team to 28 points. Cripes, what do y'all want from him? To morph into Dan Marino suddenly at age 36? He is what he is, and Saunders did a great job exploiting his skills today.

If it makes you feel any better - at least your're not a GIANTS fan!!! hahahaha!!!!
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Old 09-24-2006, 09:02 PM   #41
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If it makes you feel any better - at least your're not a GIANTS fan!!! hahahaha!!!!
wha?

I feel great. Me and some fellas at the Merc bar here in NYC almost got in a fight with some vagiant fans becuase they couldn't take our taunting. You don't know what it is to hate the vagiants until you've spent some time here listening to those meatheads boast about how great their overrated, half-assed, POS team is.
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Old 09-24-2006, 09:13 PM   #42
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I agree that eventually we do need to go deep, but I also believe we keep running it like we did today, and we keep building Brunell up with those smaller, high percentage passes, and eventually receivers are going to get open deep. Today was about getting some confidence back into Mark Brunell and the rest of the offense. Hopefully they will build from there.

I think that the receivers were open deep, more than once. Don't get me wrong, Saunders called a conservative short game today that the skins executed very, very well. I still would like to see Brunnel start seeing the field better, but I think that will come as he becomes more comfortable in the offense. When that happens, the long passes will start happening.
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Old 09-24-2006, 09:17 PM   #43
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Portis opened a lot of things up and look what he can do in this offense when healthy. Its like this in the first preseason game we were moving on cincy before the int. Everybody was fired up, but when portis went down it seemed to have a domino effect on this team. Today we get portis back even though we played the texans and look at the results. Mohawk and all, Mr. Portis is the face of this team regardless how great a game anybody else has. Brunell did awesome today, mainly b/c of portis. Shovel pass was nice and 4th and 1 up the middle was better. J'ville will be a bit more steep of a challenge but i think we can do it. We finally broke the curse of the AFC. Nuff said i'm Drunk.
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Old 09-24-2006, 09:20 PM   #44
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I think this team did a great job of spreading the ball around. If you were on defense where would you go? This offense had them guessing pretty much the whole time. just like a Redskin team BALANCED ATTACK. Also, having our play maker back was huge. I think this team needs to look at this as the first regular season game and set a goal for an undefeated record from here on out. If this team continues to improve an all fazes of the game the end of the year could be very special (shades of last year). Good job guys, and let's keep those penalties down.
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Old 09-24-2006, 09:25 PM   #45
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Houston is awful. They had me worried on their first drive. All i can say is beating them is no way to gauge us. the true test is the weekend at fedex. I can assure you jacksville is pissed off. We still have to figure out how to get the vertical game working. The dump off's are nice and they produced great results. against houston.
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