Stop The Negative

BDBohnzie · 10-12-2006, 03:13 PM

Springs is one of the better CBs in the league. Any time you get his caliber type player back, it can only help. Plus I think, as one of the older vets on D, he's a catalyst, kinda like Darrell Green was.

mike340 · 10-12-2006, 03:29 PM

Actually, I think you've got the perfect name to represent Brunell!

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Originally Posted by Southpaw

I have no problem with the fact that your opinion differs from mine. You just made some nasty comments directed towards the Brunell haters, which I thought deserved a response. I made a silly response to lighten the mood a little bit, so things didn't get out of hand.

hesscl34 · 10-12-2006, 03:48 PM

Who smells funck?

djnemo65 · 10-12-2006, 06:35 PM

This thread really encapsulates the main disagreement which has sort of been the theme of this website since I joined - whether fans should be openly critical of their team or should try to be more supportive, even when things aren't gong so well. I think it's great that we have both kind of people here. Often, when I think things can't get any worse, I'll hop on hear and read a post from one of the optimists and think, well, our backs are against the walls but maybe we do have a shot still.

The problem I have is with pompous fans on this board and elsewhere who act like, because they refuse to brook any negative thoughts concerning the team, they are somehow superior fans. That's garbage. I've flip flopped on my opinion of this team about four times this season already, but that doesn't make me a fairweather fan. A fairweather fan is one of these so called Eagles fans, who when Mcnabb goes down and needs surgery decides they will go play golf on sundays for the rest of the season. Now the team is winning they are hooting and hollering again. A fairweather fan is someone who, when things get bad, stops watching. That's not me, and I don't think that's most people here. When people say some of our fans are too negative, well, that's what happens when you suck for over a decade. But you know what? During that team we didn't have one game that wasn't a sellout, and I know I didn't miss a game. Not many other teams can say that.

Also, there has repeatedly been a suggestion on this site that somehow people want the Skins to fail, and I am directing this at whoever wrote that ridiculous post claiming that even if Brunell played great people would still attack him (an argument which has been made in some form for over 2 years now). People criticize Brunell because he frequently plays terrible. I actually think Skins nation is relatively easy on him, when you consider the rest of the country thinks he can't even play NFL football anymore. So look, when the Skins play like crap and get dominated in a game they are supposed to be equipeed to win, or at lests COMPETE in, don't expect everyone to act like everything is okay. But we sign on here, we share ideas, and no matter what, we are closer as fans. That's how it should work.

EternalEnigma21 · 10-12-2006, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by hesscl34

Who smells funck?

Who spells funk???

mike340 · 10-12-2006, 07:15 PM

I believe I am the person you are referring to. The following behavior I accept.
PLAYS lousy ; COMMENTS: he's lousy
PLAYS lousy ; COMMENTS: he's lousy
PLAYS great : COMMENTS: he played great
PLAYS great : COMMENTS: he played great
PLAYS lousy : COMMENTS: he played lousy
(I wonder why I picked that scenario?)

The following I do NOT accept:
PLAYS lousy : COMMENTS : he's lousy
PLAYS lousy : COMMENTS : he's lousy
PLAYS great : COMMENTS : silence or "It was meaningless or lucky"
PLAYS great : COMMENTS : silence or "It was meanlingless or lucky"
PLAYS lousy : COMMENTS : he's lousy

I don't think this request is unreasonable. But the group who advocates the second approach feels this two-facedness if fine. If you would like the names of the people I think are inappropriate I could give it, but I think it would be inappropriate.

I have never felt, however, that some people would rather be right than have the Redskins succeed. That is a different poster.

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Originally Posted by djnemo65

This thread really encapsulates the main disagreement which has sort of been the theme of this website since I joined - whether fans should be openly critical of their team or should try to be more supportive, even when things aren't gong so well. I think it's great that we have both kind of people here. Often, when I think things can't get any worse, I'll hop on hear and read a post from one of the optimists and think, well, our backs are against the walls but maybe we do have a shot still.

The problem I have is with pompous fans on this board and elsewhere who act like, because they refuse to brook any negative thoughts concerning the team, they are somehow superior fans. That's garbage. I've flip flopped on my opinion of this team about four times this season already, but that doesn't make me a fairweather fan. A fairweather fan is one of these so called Eagles fans, who when Mcnabb goes down and needs surgery decides they will go play golf on sundays for the rest of the season. Now the team is winning they are hooting and hollering again. A fairweather fan is someone who, when things get bad, stops watching. That's not me, and I don't think that's most people here. When people say some of our fans are too negative, well, that's what happens when you suck for over a decade. But you know what? During that team we didn't have one game that wasn't a sellout, and I know I didn't miss a game. Not many other teams can say that.

Also, there has repeatedly been a suggestion on this site that somehow people want the Skins to fail, and I am directing this at whoever wrote that ridiculous post claiming that even if Brunell played great people would still attack him (an argument which has been made in some form for over 2 years now). People criticize Brunell because he frequently plays terrible. I actually think Skins nation is relatively easy on him, when you consider the rest of the country thinks he can't even play NFL football anymore. So look, when the Skins play like crap and get dominated in a game they are supposed to be equipeed to win, or at lests COMPETE in, don't expect everyone to act like everything is okay. But we sign on here, we share ideas, and no matter what, we are closer as fans. That's how it should work.

RedskinRat · 10-12-2006, 07:34 PM

Unless they're fans of another team I fail to see why you'd want the Skins to fail?

I want them to win but I want them to win with Campbell. I didn't see Brunell being a good option last season nor this season. Am I happy if they win with Brunell? Sure. Are they? Not often or consistently enough for me.

GTripp0012 · 10-12-2006, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by hesscl34

I know 2-3 isn't great.. and I know we have issues to overcome... but we DO have the talent and we do have smart coaches. All we need is fans that believe and trust... I do!!! Trust in the Skins. Give them the 12th man this weekend. It's time to ROCK and make this season REAL!!!!!!!!!

Yeah, and our schedule has been tougher than the average one too. Yeah, the G-Men made us look bad, but unlike the loss to Minnesota, we have a pushover game the next week. It's a game we can win even if we come out playing poorly in the first half. Then you have Indy, and I'm this close to guarenteeing a victory. Yeah, the Colts are undefeated, but if they played our schedule they wouldn't be. Although the bye helped the Giants against us, I can only see it hurting the Colts. They don't get to play us very often, and probably won't come up with a great gameplan. Plus, I would expect them to come out rusty, 5-0. If we can jump on them early, the defense can finally have a breakout game. That will be our statement game as we go 4-0 in the South.

And the schedule gets much easier from there on out.

13-3 is still the target. 12-4 is more realistic.

4mrusmc · 10-12-2006, 10:30 PM

Well, when this team wakes up and start playing up to the potential then, I will start drinking that kool-aid. What this team needs is not to be stroked but, to be kicked in the ass. Wake up bitches and start winning ball games! There is no such thing as a game we should lose. Good teams don't believe in that crap! Week-in and week-out you, you dress out and you flat out win games! Period!

4mrusmc · 10-12-2006, 10:40 PM

Guys, we have had three years to prepare for good things since the "trinity" has come back to us. My fear is that we are running out of time to be successful with Gibbs. Last year was great but, if this year is not better than it was indeed a failure. Which in turn could only hurt Gibbs' legacy. Time is ticking..........Good teams win.

CPDAMAN · 10-12-2006, 11:04 PM

Stop The Negativity!!!!

jermus22 · 10-12-2006, 11:14 PM

Good teams find a way to win on the road. No excuses for the loss to the Giants; we NEEDED to win that game. We're already 0-2 in division games.

That being said, we must stick with the team and not throwing in the towel. It's way to early to do that. I am having an extremely hard time believing that we're Super Bowl contenders at this point--even the playoffs would be nice. Kind of feels like we took 3 steps back from last year's solid showing. Who knows what's going on?

4mrusmc · 10-12-2006, 11:26 PM

Just remember this, "there are two types of people, those who talk about doing and, those who do." Just win football games and the negativity will stop.

hooskins · 10-12-2006, 11:29 PM

Keep the negative coming, I don't really care. It really doesn't matter what the fans think at all. If we win, we win, or we lose. We will see at the end of the season.

JGisLordOfTheRings · 10-13-2006, 12:37 AM

Amen!

10-12-2006, 03:13 PM	#61
BDBohnzie Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Frederick, MD Age: 45 Posts: 4,628	Re: Stop The Negative Springs is one of the better CBs in the league. Any time you get his caliber type player back, it can only help. Plus I think, as one of the older vets on D, he's a catalyst, kinda like Darrell Green was. __________________ Bad Things man, I mean bad things... “WE TOOK HIM IN THE SIXTH ROUND SO WE'RE NOT SMART EITHER.” - Shanny on what the Skins saw in Alfred Morris

10-12-2006, 03:48 PM	#63
hesscl34 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Germantown, MD Posts: 2,782	Re: Stop The Negative Who smells funck?

10-12-2006, 06:35 PM	#64
djnemo65 Playmaker Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2,836	Re: Stop The Negative This thread really encapsulates the main disagreement which has sort of been the theme of this website since I joined - whether fans should be openly critical of their team or should try to be more supportive, even when things aren't gong so well. I think it's great that we have both kind of people here. Often, when I think things can't get any worse, I'll hop on hear and read a post from one of the optimists and think, well, our backs are against the walls but maybe we do have a shot still. The problem I have is with pompous fans on this board and elsewhere who act like, because they refuse to brook any negative thoughts concerning the team, they are somehow superior fans. That's garbage. I've flip flopped on my opinion of this team about four times this season already, but that doesn't make me a fairweather fan. A fairweather fan is one of these so called Eagles fans, who when Mcnabb goes down and needs surgery decides they will go play golf on sundays for the rest of the season. Now the team is winning they are hooting and hollering again. A fairweather fan is someone who, when things get bad, stops watching. That's not me, and I don't think that's most people here. When people say some of our fans are too negative, well, that's what happens when you suck for over a decade. But you know what? During that team we didn't have one game that wasn't a sellout, and I know I didn't miss a game. Not many other teams can say that. Also, there has repeatedly been a suggestion on this site that somehow people want the Skins to fail, and I am directing this at whoever wrote that ridiculous post claiming that even if Brunell played great people would still attack him (an argument which has been made in some form for over 2 years now). People criticize Brunell because he frequently plays terrible. I actually think Skins nation is relatively easy on him, when you consider the rest of the country thinks he can't even play NFL football anymore. So look, when the Skins play like crap and get dominated in a game they are supposed to be equipeed to win, or at lests COMPETE in, don't expect everyone to act like everything is okay. But we sign on here, we share ideas, and no matter what, we are closer as fans. That's how it should work.

10-12-2006, 07:34 PM	#67
RedskinRat Franchise Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: I'm in LA, trick! Posts: 8,700	Re: Stop The Negative Unless they're fans of another team I fail to see why you'd want the Skins to fail? I want them to win but I want them to win with Campbell. I didn't see Brunell being a good option last season nor this season. Am I happy if they win with Brunell? Sure. Are they? Not often or consistently enough for me.

10-12-2006, 10:30 PM	#69
4mrusmc Impact Rookie Join Date: Apr 2005 Age: 55 Posts: 559	Re: Stop The Negative Well, when this team wakes up and start playing up to the potential then, I will start drinking that kool-aid. What this team needs is not to be stroked but, to be kicked in the ass. Wake up bitches and start winning ball games! There is no such thing as a game we should lose. Good teams don't believe in that crap! Week-in and week-out you, you dress out and you flat out win games! Period!

10-12-2006, 10:40 PM	#70
4mrusmc Impact Rookie Join Date: Apr 2005 Age: 55 Posts: 559	Re: Stop The Negative Guys, we have had three years to prepare for good things since the "trinity" has come back to us. My fear is that we are running out of time to be successful with Gibbs. Last year was great but, if this year is not better than it was indeed a failure. Which in turn could only hurt Gibbs' legacy. Time is ticking..........Good teams win.

10-12-2006, 11:04 PM	#71
CPDAMAN Camp Scrub Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 40	Re: Stop The Negative Stop The Negativity!!!!

10-12-2006, 11:14 PM	#72
jermus22 Special Teams Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Frankfort, KY Age: 42 Posts: 336	Re: Stop The Negative Good teams find a way to win on the road. No excuses for the loss to the Giants; we NEEDED to win that game. We're already 0-2 in division games. That being said, we must stick with the team and not throwing in the towel. It's way to early to do that. I am having an extremely hard time believing that we're Super Bowl contenders at this point--even the playoffs would be nice. Kind of feels like we took 3 steps back from last year's solid showing. Who knows what's going on? __________________ Win it in the trenches.

10-12-2006, 11:26 PM	#73
4mrusmc Impact Rookie Join Date: Apr 2005 Age: 55 Posts: 559	Re: Stop The Negative Just remember this, "there are two types of people, those who talk about doing and, those who do." Just win football games and the negativity will stop.

10-12-2006, 11:29 PM	#74
hooskins Most Interesting Man in the World Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Chantilly, VA Age: 37 Posts: 8,606	Re: Stop The Negative Keep the negative coming, I don't really care. It really doesn't matter what the fans think at all. If we win, we win, or we lose. We will see at the end of the season. __________________ Vacancy

10-13-2006, 12:37 AM	#75
JGisLordOfTheRings Playmaker Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Richmond VA Age: 38 Posts: 2,583	Re: Stop The Negative Amen! __________________ The redskins pocket is like my love life.....nonexistent and disappointing. -OnceWeWereKings

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