Passing: A Deeper Look

SmootSmack · 10-18-2006, 12:06 AM

The NFL defines a "deep pass" as one that travels 15 yards in the air. This year they've started keeping track of that on a game by game basis.

So, since I'm not really a fan of generalizations -"Brunell never throws the ball more than 10 yards"-I thought I'd chart the "deep passes" I went week by week, QB by QB; including total completions and attempts and what percentage of the total completions were deep completions and what percentage of the total attempts were deep attempts. I didn't include such things as who won the game, were the completions for touchdowns, were the incompletions interceptions, etc. But I thought this might give a good idea of where we stand, compared to the rest of the league. (I sorted it by deep attempts)

Enjoy!

hesscl34 · 10-18-2006, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by TAFKAS

The NFL defines a "deep pass" as one that travels 15 yards in the air. This year they've started keeping track of that on a game by game basis.

So, since I'm not really a fan of generalizations -"Brunell never throws the ball more than 10 yards"-I thought I'd chart the "deep passes" I went week by week, QB by QB; including total completions and attempts and what percentage of the total completions were deep completions and what percentage of the total attempts were deep attempts. I didn't include such things as who won the game, where the completions for touchdowns, where the incompletions interceptions, etc. But I thought this might give a good idea of where we stand, compared to the rest of the league. (I sorted it by deep attempts)

Enjoy!

Grrrrrrrrrrrr! Brunell never throws deep? What about the Jags? What about last week to Randal El??? What about the Dallas game in 05?? Come on! He CAN throw deep...... It's all about him wanting to play conservative which keeps him from throwing deep on a regular basis. But he CAN DO IT!

Meast · 10-18-2006, 12:10 AM

I can't, google spreadsheet boy.

RobH4413 · 10-18-2006, 12:10 AM

Hell yeah... muchos gracious senor

Crat92 · 10-18-2006, 12:13 AM

Every now and then the sun shines on a dog's ass! And it is so with Brunell's deep passes. Come on guys, get real! With our WR's we should go down field at least 4 to 5 times a half! HAIL from MCUSA!

hesscl34 · 10-18-2006, 12:24 AM

I cannot WAIT for you ALL TO EAT CROW!!!!!!!!!! .... OK, so I said it. I happen to be a Brunell FAN.. I know, one of the few.. but I DO believe that man has it him to do right by the SKINS!

EternalEnigma21 · 10-18-2006, 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by hesscl34

I cannot WAIT for you ALL TO EAT CROW!!!!!!!!!! .... OK, so I said it. I happen to be a Brunell FAN.. I know, one of the few.. but I DO believe that man has it him to do right by the SKINS!

you go ahead and start chewing and if you like it, I may try a bite in like 10 weeks or so...

RedskinRat · 10-18-2006, 12:38 AM

Hess, it's not like any of us thing he's out to ruin the Redskins, he's just not in his prime any more.

Did anyone else see the third Ortiz Vs. Shamrock fight? Yeah, he's like Ken. The spirit may be willing but the flesh ain't doin' the trick no more. He'll be a great mentor for JC.

Daseal · 10-18-2006, 12:39 AM

Can someone give me the jist of what it says. Google says my version of firefox is too high... I'm far too lazy to deal with it this late.

Duffman003 · 10-18-2006, 12:42 AM

Brunell is an average QB, he just can't be relied on to throw more than 20 times.... this is where the running game comes into play

SmootSmack · 10-18-2006, 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Daseal

Can someone give me the jist of what it says. Google says my version of firefox is too high... I'm far too lazy to deal with it this late.

Too high? That's interesting.

I can email it to you if you'd like. PM me your address

SmootSmack · 10-18-2006, 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Meast

I can't, google spreadsheet boy.

I'll ask Matty to put the spreadsheet on our site in the morning

djnemo65 · 10-18-2006, 02:22 AM

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Originally Posted by hesscl34

I cannot WAIT for you ALL TO EAT CROW!!!!!!!!!! .... OK, so I said it. I happen to be a Brunell FAN.. I know, one of the few.. but I DO believe that man has it him to do right by the SKINS!

I love myself some Brunell crow and I would be happy to feast. I pray that you are right. But what are the standards? Does Brunell have to lead us into the playoffs for us to eat crow? Does that you mean eat crow if we are home in January? And What does doing right by the Skins mean? He plays marginally better or he turns the team around? I love your optimism, but it dont look good kid.

offiss · 10-18-2006, 03:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hesscl34

I cannot WAIT for you ALL TO EAT CROW!!!!!!!!!! .... OK, so I said it. I happen to be a Brunell FAN.. I know, one of the few.. but I DO believe that man has it him to do right by the SKINS!

Me to, retire!

That Guy · 10-18-2006, 07:03 AM

big question on how you compiled this...

i just went through the nfl.com play by play and re-watched the jacksonville game and brunell is 4/7, not 6/8, so wondering how you got that.

2nd quarter:
1-10-WAS20 (11:20) M.Brunell pass incomplete deep left to C.Cooley.
3-10-WAS30 (9:07) (Shotgun) M.Brunell pass incomplete deep right to S.Moss.
1-10-WAS33 (5:01) M.Brunell pass deep middle to C.Cooley to JAX 45 for 22 yards.
3-6-JAC41 (3:07) (Shotgun) M.Brunell pass incomplete deep left to B.Lloyd.
1-10-JAC46 (1:01) M.Brunell pass deep left to A.Randle El to JAX 27 for 19 yards.

3rd quarter:
3-6-JAC38 (4:49) M.Brunell pass deep left to B.Lloyd ran ob at JAX 5 for 33 yards.

Overtime:
2-13-WAS32 (13:23) M.Brunell pass deep left to S.Moss for 68 yards, TOUCHDOWN.

there was a cooley catch deep in overtime, but that can't be counted since he was guilty of illegal touching, and couldn't have caught the ball without committing that illegal act... if anything it should be counted as another incompletion, but i left it out in my 4/7 accounting above. no idea how you got 6/8 though.

I don't have time to check all of the games, so i don't know how accurate those are.

10-18-2006, 12:06 AM	#1
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Passing: A Deeper Look The NFL defines a "deep pass" as one that travels 15 yards in the air. This year they've started keeping track of that on a game by game basis. So, since I'm not really a fan of generalizations -"Brunell never throws the ball more than 10 yards"-I thought I'd chart the "deep passes" I went week by week, QB by QB; including total completions and attempts and what percentage of the total completions were deep completions and what percentage of the total attempts were deep attempts. I didn't include such things as who won the game, were the completions for touchdowns, were the incompletions interceptions, etc. But I thought this might give a good idea of where we stand, compared to the rest of the league. (I sorted it by deep attempts) Enjoy! __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

10-18-2006, 12:10 AM	#3
Meast Special Teams Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 116	Re: Passing: A Deeper Look I can't, google spreadsheet boy.

10-18-2006, 12:10 AM	#4
RobH4413 Wildcard Bitches Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Bethesda, MD Age: 39 Posts: 2,638	Re: Passing: A Deeper Look Hell yeah... muchos gracious senor __________________ This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps!

10-18-2006, 12:13 AM	#5
Crat92 Special Teams Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Nashville,TN Age: 51 Posts: 474	Re: Passing: A Deeper Look Every now and then the sun shines on a dog's ass! And it is so with Brunell's deep passes. Come on guys, get real! With our WR's we should go down field at least 4 to 5 times a half! HAIL from MCUSA! __________________ BEWARE THE MIDDLE............LaRON LANDRY IS LURKING!

10-18-2006, 12:24 AM	#6
hesscl34 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Germantown, MD Posts: 2,782	Re: Passing: A Deeper Look I cannot WAIT for you ALL TO EAT CROW!!!!!!!!!! .... OK, so I said it. I happen to be a Brunell FAN.. I know, one of the few.. but I DO believe that man has it him to do right by the SKINS!

10-18-2006, 12:38 AM	#8
RedskinRat Franchise Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: I'm in LA, trick! Posts: 8,700	Re: Passing: A Deeper Look Hess, it's not like any of us thing he's out to ruin the Redskins, he's just not in his prime any more. Did anyone else see the third Ortiz Vs. Shamrock fight? Yeah, he's like Ken. The spirit may be willing but the flesh ain't doin' the trick no more. He'll be a great mentor for JC.

10-18-2006, 12:39 AM	#9
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 41 Posts: 8,341	Re: Passing: A Deeper Look Can someone give me the jist of what it says. Google says my version of firefox is too high... I'm far too lazy to deal with it this late. __________________ Best. Player. Available.

10-18-2006, 12:42 AM	#10
Duffman003 Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 602	Re: Passing: A Deeper Look Brunell is an average QB, he just can't be relied on to throw more than 20 times.... this is where the running game comes into play __________________ give me food, feed me lunch 'you want water?', B#### give me punch - D12

10-18-2006, 07:03 AM	#15
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 42 Posts: 17,553	Re: Passing: A Deeper Look big question on how you compiled this... i just went through the nfl.com play by play and re-watched the jacksonville game and brunell is 4/7, not 6/8, so wondering how you got that. 2nd quarter: 1-10-WAS20 (11:20) M.Brunell pass incomplete deep left to C.Cooley. 3-10-WAS30 (9:07) (Shotgun) M.Brunell pass incomplete deep right to S.Moss. 1-10-WAS33 (5:01) M.Brunell pass deep middle to C.Cooley to JAX 45 for 22 yards. 3-6-JAC41 (3:07) (Shotgun) M.Brunell pass incomplete deep left to B.Lloyd. 1-10-JAC46 (1:01) M.Brunell pass deep left to A.Randle El to JAX 27 for 19 yards. 3rd quarter: 3-6-JAC38 (4:49) M.Brunell pass deep left to B.Lloyd ran ob at JAX 5 for 33 yards. Overtime: 2-13-WAS32 (13:23) M.Brunell pass deep left to S.Moss for 68 yards, TOUCHDOWN. there was a cooley catch deep in overtime, but that can't be counted since he was guilty of illegal touching, and couldn't have caught the ball without committing that illegal act... if anything it should be counted as another incompletion, but i left it out in my 4/7 accounting above. no idea how you got 6/8 though. I don't have time to check all of the games, so i don't know how accurate those are.

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