Im done....Gibbs must go.

[mason4415]

Originally Posted by paulskinsfan

And look at what coaches in New Orleans and the NY Jets have done in 1 year. Look at what Nolan has done in SF in 2 years. All of them started with less talent than Gibbs. It would be one thing if we had young talent waiting in the wings, but we don't. The man has squandered 3 drafts and made lousy free agency moves to get us to this pathetic record. Its easy to keep riding the "I have faith in Gibbs train" but you would never ever cut any other coach this much slack. So if you have so much faith, prove to me that he has this franchise moving in the right direction after 3 years.

omg, i am so glad that there is at least one rational, non-biased opinion on this site!

[ArtMonkDrillz]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Ok I'll change the poll if you want to nitpick

That's not being nitpicky because they're completely different. If he steps down he still has his dignity, and he can still feel free to run the FO if he so chooses. If he's fired he's a disgrace, he's gone, and he's a failure.
There's a huge difference.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by mason4415

omg, i am so glad that there is at least one rational, non-biased opinion on this site!

LOL yeah there's only two, thank god you guys found each other.

[paulskinsfan]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

And you don't think that poll would yield a similar result?

C'mon man, you're kidding me right?

No, I think fair minded people would vote No to the last question I posed, while the same people would not "fire" Joe Gibbs. You hear what you want to hear Matt.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by ArtMonkDrillz

That's not being nitpicky because they're completely different. If he steps down he still has his dignity, and he can still feel free to run the FO if he so chooses. If he's fired he's a disgrace, he's gone, and he's a failure.
There's a huge difference.

The basic point here is, do we want him back next year?

[mason4415]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

You started off this thread saying Gibbs should step down.

Seemed like a pretty simple take, now you're trying to dance around the issue.

Yes or No, very simple.

I don't need to word the poll a special way to get anyone to vote with me. Face it, the majority of fans don't want him gone. Simple as that.

I proudly vote YES, although I would like to see it done with respect, asking him to retire. Although I think he may step down as HC after this season anyway.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by paulskinsfan

No, I think fair minded people would vote No to the last question I posed, while the same people would not "fire" Joe Gibbs. You hear what you want to hear Matt.

Fine I'll start another poll, care to wager on how it will go?

[CrazyCanuck]

Originally Posted by mason4415

so what you're saying is that we're content with being the Arizona Cardinals of the East. that's a shame!

When's the last time the Cardinals were one game away from the NFC Championship? We were there just last year.

I'm not happy with this season either. But there's no one I'd rather have to try and turn things around than Joe Gibbs.

If some of you guys had your way, we'd dump Gibbs and pick up the soon-to-be-dumped Dennis Green. Then we'd really be the Arizona Cardinals of the East.

[Luxorreb]

Originally Posted by dall-assblows

gibbs is the washington redskins.

Enough said.

[paulskinsfan]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

LOL yeah there's only two, thank god you guys found each other.

Again, you read what you want to read. Several people have sided with me Matt, but you get to make the poll so make it, Im just not gonna participate.

[MTK]

everyone please re-vote on our new poll sponsored and perfectly worded for optimal results by paulskinsfan

[ArtMonkDrillz]

The description under your name is pretty ironic, CC. There are still 4 games left to play but it's already "on to '07," but it isn't because the coaching staff is doing a bad job?

[mason4415]

let me say this again...

HOW COULD IT BE ANY WORSE?! WE ARE 4-8! And 20-28 over the last 3 years. And we have the most talent we have had since the early '90's!

also, as paulskinsfan said... we have to watch teams like New Orleans, San Francisco, New York Jets, etc, etc, etc have success with new coaches.

I'm all for stability in the front office and coaching staff, but if and only if they prove that they are getting the job done! The 20-28 record is not because of lack of talent or anything else. It is b/c of COACHING!

I am sorry, Gibbs 2.0 is a failure. What makes you think we will be able to go 10-6 next year with the same exact group and coaching staff? I don't understand the optimism!

[ArtMonkDrillz]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

everyone please re-vote on our new poll sponsored and perfectly worded for optimal results by paulskinsfan

you changed it up on me mid-vote. Looks like my vote went in the wrong answer.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by paulskinsfan

Again, you read what you want to read. Several people have sided with me Matt, but you get to make the poll so make it, Im just not gonna participate.

Why? You started the thread and suggested that poll wording, here ya go. Don't blame me when the results don't go your way.