Brandon Lloyd is not a bust!

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

I'll say it was awsome but with todays standards thats not a catch.
1. did he have control before his feet slid out of bounds?
2. this is the big one: if you look closely when he lands the ball moves/bounces when it hits the ground between his forearms. I belive this would be ruled no catch.
I know this seems like I'm being picky but I'm not. I do belive he had a great catch at the beginning of our season as well. but one catch does not make a great player. Hopefully this year with Jason at the helm and everyone knowing Saunders offense better the ball will be spread around better.

true but that was a good catch and i think he will rebound this year

[Crat92]

B Lloyd will be straight this year. He can now concentrate on building timing, and chemistry with JC. He'll get his chance to make plays down field. Especially with the ROCKET Campbell has! As for me I think the jury is still out on this one.

[GiantsSuck703]

Originally Posted by wbecker999

1. Thats a catch
2. The link was just to show he has some sick skills. Isn't it common sense that one catch doesn't make a player great?

Thats his signature catch, does that mean hes a sure fire hall of famer now?

[CHIEF CHUCKING MY SPEAR]

at the end of this last season

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by CHIEF CHUCKING MY SPEAR

at the end of this last season

What?

[CHIEF CHUCKING MY SPEAR]

his contract was up after this season when we traded for him. Like your icon,

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by CHIEF CHUCKING MY SPEAR

his contract was up after this season when we traded for him. Like your icon,

Thanks. So help me understand something here. Why is it not ok to try to lock in Lloyd, a young receiver who has shown promise in this league (Granted I understand he had a disappointing 2006), but we should have locked in Dockery?

[CHIEF CHUCKING MY SPEAR]

i think it more important to keep a good oline together like the hogs in the 80's. If you a good oline you can control the line of scrimmage like we did at the end of last year. I would have made lloyd play the last year out of his contact to see what he had. He had some problems in SF and we found out here he had some too with GIbbs. If lloyd would have produced and had a big year sure sign him to a good contract, maybe if we didnt give him 10 million right away he might have been hungry for a new contract. Instead of being fat and happy. Also dock bled for this team for 3 yrs before lloyd came here and got the big bucks without playing a down for us.

[CHIEF CHUCKING MY SPEAR]

dont blame lloyd he didnt make the skins pay him it just as of right now its a mistake like AA and carter and randel el that we paying for right now. But hey maybe next hopefully they will prove me wrong. Trust me that what i want im tired of losing.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by CHIEF CHUCKING MY SPEAR

i think it more important to keep a good oline together like the hogs in the 80's. If you a good oline you can control the line of scrimmage like we did at the end of last year. I would have made lloyd play the last year out of his contact to see what he had. He had some problems in SF and we found out here he had some too with GIbbs. If lloyd would have produced and had a big year sure sign him to a good contract, maybe if we didnt give him 10 million right away he might have been hungry for a new contract. Instead of being fat and happy. Also dock bled for this team for 3 yrs before lloyd came here and got the big bucks without playing a down for us.

Fair enough

[CHIEF CHUCKING MY SPEAR]

I just would like to take care of our first that all. I would extent their contracts when they have a year left. I think it would be cheaper in the long run. Like philly does with their young talent. And keep our draft picks please lol.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by wbecker999

My original thread should have stated

Brandon Lloyd is not a bust! YET

All I'm saying is give him a chance with a good system and quarterback before we call him a bust.

Any receiver in the NFL would be successful given a good QB and a good system. However, if there was any exception to this rule, it would be Lloyd.

I think whether or not he is a bust is a pretty irrelivant argument. He's just not very good. He's servicable in the way that he can run, jump, and catch (sometimes acrobatically), so he'd probably put up yards in a great situaiton. That doesn't make him good though.

He's been very inconsistent for 4 seasons now, so either we keep waiting for him to break out, or we get the ball to players more likely to do something with them instead of sacrificing offensive potential in a attempt to ressurect the otherwise hopeless career of a scrub WR.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by CHIEF CHUCKING MY SPEAR

I just would like to take care of our first that all. I would extent their contracts when they have a year left. I think it would be cheaper in the long run. Like philly does with their young talent. And keep our draft picks please lol.

I think we have been for the most part-Betts, Jansen, Thomas, Sellers. But it's also up to the player to want to stay and you have to think of what's best for the entire team. For the money Dock was asking for, it just didn't make sense to keep him. Loyalty is one thing, but at what price?

[CHIEF CHUCKING MY SPEAR]

Not saying break the bank on anyone but if the redskins only offered 3 for 12 with no signing bonus as the post said yesterday that a joke.I think if the skins would have offered something like they paid lloyd or AA with a 1o million bonus it would have been a good deal for both sides. he was our youngest olineman never missed a game. And with Jansen on the downside and the lineman getting around or over 30 we need young good lineman. Unfortually we wont be able to that in the draft.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by CHIEF CHUCKING MY SPEAR

I just would like to take care of our first that all. I would extent their contracts when they have a year left. I think it would be cheaper in the long run. Like philly does with their young talent. And keep our draft picks please lol.

I and I'm sure many others on this board are behind you here. It's beating a dead horse though.

Our front office has been relatively good with the moves they've made in the sense that we really dont make many more misakes than most teams do. The problem is that the nature of our business forces us to invest a ton of guarenteed money in our players. So when we do make our mistakes, they are very, very costly to us.