Cardinals vs Redskins game thread

[Gmanc711]

I think the quote of the day, is we lost games we deserved to win (both NYG/GB)...now we defintley won one that we should have lost.....I mean I'm very excited/happy we won...but that was one of the ugliest wins I've ever seen.

[BleedBurgundy]

Originally Posted by gabe1984

On our last posession, what was up with that draw play on third and seven? To me that was almost saying "We're just going to give Arizona the ball back!" Why would you call that play on such a crucial posession? Is it because they don't want an interception? If that's the case, how we gonna win games with that kinda of crap play calling?

It seems to me we've always done that... No matter who's coached this team I can remember so many third and 5+ draw plays. Always pisses me off. It's like a Redskins' signature move...

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by NYCSkin

When you say wildcard--you mean next year right?

Haha, it's really looking like that lately.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by gabe1984

On our last posession, what was up with that draw play on third and seven? To me that was almost saying "We're just going to give Arizona the ball back!" Why would you call that play on such a crucial posession? Is it because they don't want an interception? If that's the case, how we gonna win games with that kinda of crap play calling?

I don't have a problem on third & seven with the draw to keep the clock moving, but why on 2nd and 7 with an injured line and a pathetic passing game do you not run the ball or throw a high percentage pass to keep the clock moving....if we keep the clock moving on 2nd down AZ probably doesn't have time to get in FG range and may not have scored the TD.

[Dirtbag59]

ESPN - Arizona vs. Washington Photos, October 21 2007 - NFL Football

What happened here?

[GusFrerotte]

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

I agree.. I am a little iffy on Saunders now.

Our WR don't suck, they just can't catch. Well... I guess that would make them a little sucky. I was upset that Moss didn't get more catches especially after that poor GB game. So I guess we have to wait till next week to see if he'll bounce back.

The only reason JC didn't look great was because he didn't open it up very much and when he did, they were dropping passes.

Last place in the division... I dunno. I don't think so. Our defense is too good. If the offense doesn't win games then the defense will (like today)

I think we may look at a wildcard position at best.

We already lost to the Gmen, forget beating the Boys at all and the Eagles are an improved team somewhat from the one we beat on MNF. If our O line was intact I would say we would be a 2nd place team for sure, but not how things have looked the past 2 weeks. WR production is terrible this season. Llyod hasn't been on the radar screen all season, and now Santana decides to start dropping off the screen now also. I still say give McCardell some more playing time. The guy is a gamer and we need production now.

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by Gmanc711

I think the quote of the day, is we lost games we deserved to win (both NYG/GB)...now we defintley won one that we should have lost.....I mean I'm very excited/happy we won...but that was one of the ugliest wins I've ever seen.

I was thinking the same exact thing. This was a game we clearly deserved to lose.. In the paper that win counts as much as the Lions win but we'll take it.

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

We already lost to the Gmen, forget beating the Boys at all and the Eagles are an improved team somewhat from the one we beat on MNF. If our O line was intact I would say we would be a 2nd place team for sure, but not how things have looked the past 2 weeks. WR production is terrible this season. Llyod hasn't been on the radar screen all season, and now Santana decides to start dropping off the screen now also. I still say give McCardell some more playing time. The guy is a gamer and we need production now.

Yes! I completely agree. McCardell has been put in when we need big 1st down gains. He only has 2 or 3 catches but he caught them!

Why they don't give this man more playing time I don't know! What the hell is the point of getting McCardell and Caldwell when you're not gonna freakin use them?

[GusFrerotte]

Yeah I have to take back the stuff about JC. A QB is only as good as his WR corp. WE paid all these bums top dollar and we get crappy play in return. Snyder needs to quit dolling out the cash so fast. Build with the draft and address needs. I say trade these bums(Lloyd, Moss, shoot even Thrash to sweeten the pot) with the exception of maybe Randle El( Caldwell and McCardell are exempt from my wrath) and draft a WR or two.

[NYCSkin]

I don't completely blame the WRs--they need opportunities to make plays. That involves calling plays that attempts to put the ball in their hands. Downfield preferably (not on end arounds)...

[GusFrerotte]

Have to catch a decent ball thrown your way though NYC to make plays. Saunders is an ass, and he is a big part of it(offensive woes), but dropped passes by this calibre of a WR corp is unacceptable.

[Meks]

TRADE MOSS?

hahahaha ur retarted dude.... well, ur username IS GUS fEROTTE so i guess im not surprised

[GusFrerotte]

Originally Posted by Meks

TRADE MOSS?

hahahaha ur retarted dude

Oh really? What has he really done this season? Do you want to wait for him to probably turn in another subpar season in '08 and nobody will want him then? Guy is a shorty in a big mans game. We need tall, strong WR's that can either be possesion receivers, or can jump up for the long ball. I think Moss is toast. Put McCardell and Caldewell in if this keeps up. Trade Moss after the season, get younger linemen from either side of the ball or better yet a draft pick.

[NYCSkin]

Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

Have to catch a decent ball thrown your way though NYC to make plays. Saunders is an ass, and he is a big part of it(offensive woes), but dropped passes by this calibre of a WR corp is unacceptable.

I agree--dropped passes are unacceptable. But you have to feed your playmakers. 1-2 passes/game to Moss/ARE/Lloyd is not acceptable. Our strength right now on offense is actually our QB. Let the kid sling it and stop handcuffing him with dink and dunk plays. If he is checking it down each time, fine, but I doubt that is happening. And if they want to run--how about trying it out of a 4 wide set? Spread the field and try Portis that way...

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

Oh really? What has he really done this season? Do you want to wait for him to probably turn in another subpar season in '08 and nobody will want him then? Guy is a shorty in a big mans game. We need tall, strong WR's that can either be possesion receivers, or can jump up for the long ball. I think Moss is toast. Put McCardell and Caldewell in if this keeps up. Trade Moss after the season, get younger linemen from either side of the ball or better yet a draft pick.

That would be a huge mistake. It's not like Moss is on the downward spiral of his career, he's in his prime.

You know what happens to Redskins trades and FA's: You let them go and they flourish somewhere else.

He needs to be here, he will produce if given the time and chance (and yes, I know he's gotten a lot of chances). Moss is getting a bad rap cause he hasn't had a 2006 season so far this season.