SNYDER reconsider PETITION!!!

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by dgack

I don't know if he's the ONLY one. I certainly hoped Joe would lead us to a Super Bowl, but it became pretty clear we had a LONG way to go 2 years into his contract. Like the previous poster I was just happy that Joe was working to restore some professionalism and leadership to the franchise, if nothing else.

Well two years into his contract is much different than the day he was hired.

[SC Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Or you hire them together. Isn't that essentially what happened with Gibbs and Williams?

But Gibbs was already on-board and went up to Buffalo personally to recruit Williams. I'm not sure if they presser announcing Gibbs had already gone forward, but he was the coach by that point regardless. I have no idea why they are trying to assemble an entire staff before announcing the coach. If Fassel is the guy than say so, obviously that is the implication when you start bringing in Zorn, Ryan, Ramsdell (per JLC's latest post). But no, the Redskins went 0-3 trying to get assistants in place and now are apparently backing off Fassel and saying they may wait until after the Super Bowl to look at Spags and McDaniel. WTF. So you alienated Williams, the entire existing coaching staff by leaving them in the dark, you bring in guys to interview for jobs (including the QB's coach - so much for you Bill Lazor - who is pretty much universally like around here from all I have seen). You completely tear down an entire organizational structure in order to bring in Fassel? It makes no sense, and the way they are going about it is asinine. If you want to blow the thing up and bring in Fassel, then just do it already. Don't let everyone think that they are losing their jobs by bringing in all these people (but leaving the existing coaches in the dark for 16 days) and then back off the process, not name Fassel the coach, and say oh wait, maybe we should interview some Giants and Patriots coaches too just for good measure.

I respect the opinions of guys like Matty and Smootsmack, but no one can convince me that the Skins have handled this thing the right way.

Coaching Update/Skins Rebuffed In Attempt To Land Another Offensive Coach - Redskins Insider

[dgack]

Originally Posted by firstdown

So you can say that when Gibbs was first hired (before anyone took the field) that you never thought he could lead us to the SB or as was said make a run for a SB. I would think that anyone who had seen us win 3 SB's and everything else we won with Gibbs would have atleast thought we had a chance to make a SB run.

Uh, yes? I mean, I love Saint Joe, but I don't think he really has magical powers. The team he inherited was a flaming car wreck. Did I hope we'd make the playoffs? Sure. Did I think we were going to the Super Bowl? Not realistically. At least not until year 4 or 5.

Maybe I'm one of only a handful of people who didn't truly believe that we were Super Bowl bound the day after Joe was hired but I kind of doubt it.

[SC Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by dgack

Uh, yes? I mean, I love Saint Joe, but I don't think he really has magical powers. The team he inherited was a flaming car wreck. Did I hope we'd make the playoffs? Sure. Did I think we were going to the Super Bowl? Not realistically. At least not until year 4 or 5.

Maybe I'm one of only a handful of people who didn't truly believe that we were Super Bowl bound the day after Joe was hired but I kind of doubt it.

Either way, it doesn't matter all that much. I believe that you didn't think Joe would lead the team to the Super Bowl, but I don't think it is worth arguing over frankly. Unless we go dig up all the old threads it would be hard to settle, and at least some of us did not even know this forum existed back in the halcyon days of 2004.

[Skinny Tee]

Originally Posted by dgack

Uh, yes? I mean, I love Saint Joe, but I don't think he really has magical powers. The team he inherited was a flaming car wreck. Did I hope we'd make the playoffs? Sure. Did I think we were going to the Super Bowl? Not realistically. At least not until year 4 or 5.

Maybe I'm one of only a handful of people who didn't truly believe that we were Super Bowl bound the day after Joe was hired but I kind of doubt it.

No, I think that was the majority of rational people at least. Trying to recreate the past and winning a Super Bowl doing so seems too simple. Life isn't much like Hollywood scripts so I knew not to expect much.

What I could expect is knowing Gibbs had the clout to keep Snyder's hands off the team. Gibbs knew he couldn't ensure a Super Bowl but he could ensure building a stable team environment in which to build one.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by SC Skins Fan

Either way, it doesn't matter all that much. I believe that you didn't think Joe would lead the team to the Super Bowl, but I don't think it is worth arguing over frankly. Unless we go dig up all the old threads it would be hard to settle, and at least some of us did not even know this forum existed back in the halcyon days of 2004.

Hey, why can't we have useless post? Look at the thousands of post this week about something that no one even has a clue about. Talk about useless posting. Heck, if we did away with useless posting this site would get very borning. This site was built off useless posting.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by BleedBurgundy

Tell me this doesn't make you think of the board right now?

Classic, nothng like a good Starship Troopers clip! If only we had Col. Doogy to mind read the giant brain bug Snyder

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

If he's letting the fan base sway his decision making, we really are in big trouble.

I agree wholeheartedly, That would be a true indictment of him, as well as being paramount to the inmates running the aslyum. I don't think he'll be swayed by public opinion or that of the team players for that matter.

[vavajan]

LEARN FROM YOUR MISTAKESDon't let your ego get in the way of your gut feeling. Williams is the only one who can continue the success of what Joe Gibbs has taken you out of prior to his hiring. Do not mess this up again for it will drop your assET from the top of earnings to the bottom when we sit-out. If you hire Fassel you will have just undone what your Mentor in Gibbs has accomplished - all for not. If you hire Fassel please include in your next expansive bill another charge: MIDDLING OWNER FEE/STILL HAVEN'T LEARNED FROM EARLIER MISTAKE - Charge $100 That might cover your overpriced ego for getting name players and coaches that end up in the gutter. Ummm let me think Deon, Archuleta shall I go on...

[Longtimefan]

I hope and pray that whoever becomes the next coach of the team will be fortunate enough to meet with above average success so it will be a while before we go through another process like this. This has been one of the most challenging of processes I've witnessed in my lifetime when it comes to selecting a football coach.

[williec]

The Redskins is the first and only football team that I have ever rooted for. If Dan Snyder does not pick Gregg Williams as the new coach, it will be my last time rooting for them. PERIOD

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by williec

The Redskins is the first and only football team that I have ever rooted for. If Dan Snyder does not pick Gregg Williams as the new coach, it will be my last time rooting for them. PERIOD

Your voice will be truly missed amoung the many...many....many.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by williec

The Redskins is the first and only football team that I have ever rooted for. If Dan Snyder does not pick Gregg Williams as the new coach, it will be my last time rooting for them. PERIOD

See ya.

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

See ya.

I was just trying not to be quite as blunt.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Longtimefan

I was just trying not to be quite as blunt.

What's the use?

The only thing some people seem to understand around here is drama. Might as well join in.