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Old 02-22-2008, 03:17 PM   #61
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Re: JLC: Skins to Pursue CB Florence & WR Hackett; Can't Afford Briggs?

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I'm under the impression it's deep at DL. At OL, it's deep at the top but not much thereafter, no. of good tackles in the top 50-60, but not much beyond.

I'll admit I'm just going on early rankings & the little I've heard from the analysts at espn.
It's really deep at OT, but our need is much stronger on the interior.

The strength of OT in the draft will likely push the OG's and C's further down the board.
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Old 02-22-2008, 05:43 PM   #62
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Re: JLC: Skins to Pursue CB Florence & WR Hackett; Can't Afford Briggs?

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No, your definately on to something.

The depth at those positions really takes the pressure off having to hit on the first rounder. We can spend all three picks on the lines, and will probably end up with AT LEAST two quality starters going forward.

The good news is we will have a day to re-evaluate after the first two rounds, so we can find the best value in the third.
I heard on NFL Network earlier that 10 offensive tackles could be drafted in the first two rounds, which would be a record. It could be a very productive draft for us given our needs, the wealth of talent at those positions, and how many picks we have.
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Old 02-22-2008, 06:14 PM   #63
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Re: JLC: Skins to Pursue CB Florence & WR Hackett; Can't Afford Briggs?

The 4th rounder we paid for Duckett sure would come in handy. As far as Florence and Hackett, I like it when we draft our own players and develop them, not take other teams' rejects.
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Old 02-22-2008, 06:50 PM   #64
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Re: JLC: Skins to Pursue CB Florence & WR Hackett; Can't Afford Briggs?

I don't hear many people talking about the Safeties? Landry looks like a BEAST and Doughty improved after moving to SS. But Prioleau, Stoutmire and Fox as the backups make me nervous. I think it would be better to sign a safety and then draft a corner.

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Re: JLC: Skins to Pursue CB Florence & WR Hackett; Can't Afford Briggs?

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I don't hear many people talking about the Safeties? Landry looks like a BEAST and Doughty improved after moving to SS. But Prioleau, Stoutmire and Fox as the backups make me nervous. I think it would be better to sign a safety and then draft a corner.

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Old 02-23-2008, 12:52 AM   #66
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Re: JLC: Skins to Pursue CB Florence & WR Hackett; Can't Afford Briggs?

we're looking at OT in this draft, not G/C from what i've heard (they're interested in getting pucillo and fabini back for that).

it's crazy, but quality OTs might go into the third round this year, and the 2nd is a likely time for us to grab up... future LT with heyer as a future RT until we can find something better or he improves more, and wait on G/Cs till next year or look in the UDFAs.
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Old 02-23-2008, 01:00 AM   #67
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we're looking at OT in this draft, not G/C from what i've heard (they're interested in getting pucillo and fabini back for that).

it's crazy, but quality OTs might go into the third round this year, and the 2nd is a likely time for us to grab up... future LT with heyer as a future RT until we can find something better or he improves more, and wait on G/Cs till next year or look in the UDFAs.
That's why I think Branden Albert of uva is the ideal O line pick, he can play guard or tackle.
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Old 02-23-2008, 01:37 AM   #68
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Re: JLC: Skins to Pursue CB Florence & WR Hackett; Can't Afford Briggs?

they are getting wise.i know its because they have to but whatever works..
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Old 02-23-2008, 02:35 AM   #69
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Re: JLC: Skins to Pursue CB Florence & WR Hackett; Can't Afford Briggs?

hackett is a cool pickup if he doesnt cost too much...but florence is junk..he gets burned easy,and commits bone head penalties
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Old 02-23-2008, 11:51 AM   #70
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Re: JLC: Skins to Pursue CB Florence & WR Hackett; Can't Afford Briggs?

florence belongs at nickel, thats why he wont be getting burned with Smoot and Springs in there. And when Rogers comes back Florence will just be moved to dime. IMO, all solid starters, but we deff need to get some future in the draft. I am in no way sold on Rogers.

As far a Hackett goes, I cannot see a problem with him. It will be a step foward when adding him to our current corps.
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Old 02-23-2008, 01:09 PM   #71
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Rank Rating Name Type Yr Ht/Wt College 2007 Team Signed Team
S 1 Ken Hamlin UFA 5 6-2/209 Arkansas Dallas
S 2 Gibril Wilson UFA 4 6-0/197 Tennessee NY Giants
S 3 Sammy Knight UFA 8 6-1/215 USC Jacksonville
S 4 Dwight Smith UFA 7 5-10/201 Akron Minnesota
S 5 Madieu Williams UFA 4 6-1/203 Maryland Cincinnati
S 6 Oshiomogho Atogwe RFA 3 5-11/210 Stanford St. Louis
S 7 Chris Crocker UFA 5 5-11/192 Marshall Atlanta
S 8 Yeremiah Bell UFA 4 6-0/200 Eastern Kentucky Miami
S 9 Erik Coleman UFA 4 5-10/200 Washington State NY Jets
S 10 Deke Cooper UFA 5 6-2/210 Notre Dame Carolina
S 11 Jim Leonhard RFA 3 5-8/185 Wisconsin Buffalo
S 12 Brandon McGowan RFA 3 5-11/205 Maine Chicago
S 13 Mike Doss UFA 5 5-10/207 Ohio State Minnesota
S 14 Tank Williams UFA 6 6-2/223 Stanford Minnesota
S 15 Eugene Wilson UFA 5 5-10/195 Illinois New England
S 16 Matt Giordano UFA 3 5-11/200 California Indianapolis
S 17 Gerome Sapp UFA 5 6-1/216 Notre Dame Baltimore
S 18 J.R. Reed UFA 4 5-11/205 South Florida Philadelphia
S 19 Michael Boulware UFA 4 6-3/220 Florida State Houston
S 20 Lance Schulters UFA 10 6-2/202 Hofstra Miami
S 21 Idrees Bashir UFA 6 6-2/198 Memphis Detroit
S 22 Jay Bellamy UFA 14 5-11/200 Rutgers New Orleans

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Old 02-24-2008, 12:31 PM   #72
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Re: JLC: Skins to Pursue CB Florence & WR Hackett; Can't Afford Briggs?

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we're looking at OT in this draft, not G/C from what i've heard (they're interested in getting pucillo and fabini back for that).

it's crazy, but quality OTs might go into the third round this year, and the 2nd is a likely time for us to grab up... future LT with heyer as a future RT until we can find something better or he improves more, and wait on G/Cs till next year or look in the UDFAs.
OT class is surprisingly deep this year, we may wait until the later rounds to get help there depending on how everthing shakes out. Ideally we'll take both an OG and an OT in the draft.
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Old 02-24-2008, 01:15 PM   #73
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Re: JLC: Skins to Pursue CB Florence & WR Hackett; Can't Afford Briggs?

Yeah there should be some good tackles in the 3rd round
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Old 02-24-2008, 11:26 PM   #74
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Re: JLC: Skins to Pursue CB Florence & WR Hackett; Can't Afford Briggs?

I hope we make a run at Justin Smiley. The guy was a second round pick in the draft a few yeras ago and was probably part of the reason that Frank Gore had such a monster season back in 2006.
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Old 02-25-2008, 12:04 AM   #75
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Re: JLC: Skins to Pursue CB Florence & WR Hackett; Can't Afford Briggs?

I am all for signing CB Florence & WR Hackett; as long as they are descent contracts. I feel they can help us in a few ways, as for Briggs, well I do not feel we need him. If we need a fill in type guy or someone for depth I would intertain the thoughs of bringing back old #56 for a modest vet contract. I feel this is already a possiblity of his return since GW is gone.
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