Ramsey's game..

SkinsRock · 11-15-2004, 02:13 PM

Ramsey started slowly, but came on later and almost pulled it out. Remember that it has been close to a full year since he's seen full-speed regular season game speed.
Yeah, he brings a different set of problems, but has much more upside. Brunell was supposed to be the smart, accurate, semi-mobil veteran, but it really looks like he has lost it. Now we get the young gun that is less mobile and might make a few more mistakes, but I believe he will do enough good things to offset them.

I'm VERY curious to see how Ramsey does:
1) After a full week of practice with the starters.
2) In a more of a max-protect, play-action type scheme that will give him more time.
3) Starting the game and not being put in to try to come back from a 10+ point deficit.
4) With a pro bowl running back behind him.

These are all things that he has never had, so it will be interested to see. I'm excited about it.

One more thing....why couldn't Gibbs have had that "gut feeling" to go with Ramsey during the week instead if during the game...

skinsguy · 11-15-2004, 02:45 PM

I didn't get to see the fourth quarter, but I can definitely say that from what I did see that the problems in the passing game were not soley Mark Brunell's problem. There were dropped passes all over the place....from Jacobs, Coles, Gardner, even Portis. Ramsey looked very very rusty....pretty much reminded me of Brunell. However, according the the numbers I saw on Ramsey, it appeared that he settled down a bit and nearly brought the team back to tie. From what you guys said, it seems like he should have had several interceptions, but I agree that having no practice time with the first team offensive will do that to a QB. I imagine once he gets more practice time he'll improve somewhat. I just hate that if he does start the rest of the season, that he has to start against teams like the Eagles and the Steelers. I think he can do a pretty decent job against the Giants, Cowboys, 49er's... but its a rough time for Patrick to finally get the starting nod. I do think he'll spark our offense...as long as the teams we have left to play doesn't get us off of our game plan which is a heavy dose of Portis.

bedlamVR · 11-15-2004, 03:58 PM

I hate that fact too the kid gets his chance against the toughtest part of the schedual and to begin away at the linc is a real batism of fire but I would be happy with 2 wins out of the remaining games... Hell i would be happy with more than 56 yards passing...

wolfeskins · 11-15-2004, 06:22 PM

ramsey will look rusty and out of sink for a couple of games aspecially considering the next few teams we play but in time he will get back in the groove and play pretty good. i wish he would have been the starter at the beginning of the season, he would already be playing well and the skins record would be much better. i agree that coles looked very excited about the return of ramsey. you know it's got to break gibbs' heart having to bench the player he most coveted.
P.S. mccants needs to get more playing time, i never see him drop passes.

skinsguy · 11-15-2004, 06:31 PM

I would love to see us improve on our record from a year ago though...even if it's a 6-10 record. I don't think I can stand another 5-11 season. I would be thrilled to see the Redskins make it to 8-8.....which is still possible. The Giants, Cowboys, and Vikings are all taking a nose dive it seems, and we should be able to beat the 49ers. Right there could make us 7-9 at season's end...and who knows...we might play great against the Eagles at least once and split the series making us 8-8. We still have possiblities to make this season a decent season and to make us end it at .500; but we got to beat the teams we know we can beat and I know we can beat the Giants, Cowboys, and 49ers...and I think we have a good chance at beating the Vikings. Maybe by then, Ramsey will be settled and playing well....Lord knows if we get our passing game going we're going to be very tough to beat. Heck, we're tough to beat now without a passing game. Even though we were down by 17 points yesterday, we still came back and gave ourselves a little chance to tie the game. To this day, we have not been routed or shut out....now that might change agains the Eagles I dunno...but we are still so close in become the team that I know Gibbs is wanting us to be! A team that restores the glory years!!

That Guy · 11-16-2004, 02:03 PM

i doubt we'll ever see PR have 4 sub 100 yards games (or halves), ever...

i still think it sucks that nearly 22 minutes passed before inserting ramsey, and then, with close to 40 minutes left, there was a panic and the run game was completely abandoned (even though portis was getting 4.8ypc)... still feel we got a better chacne with ramsey... he does throw more ints, but at least they're downfield, and we got a D to save points.

11-15-2004, 02:13 PM	#16
SkinsRock Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Crofton, MD Age: 56 Posts: 907	Ramsey started slowly, but came on later and almost pulled it out. Remember that it has been close to a full year since he's seen full-speed regular season game speed. Yeah, he brings a different set of problems, but has much more upside. Brunell was supposed to be the smart, accurate, semi-mobil veteran, but it really looks like he has lost it. Now we get the young gun that is less mobile and might make a few more mistakes, but I believe he will do enough good things to offset them. I'm VERY curious to see how Ramsey does: 1) After a full week of practice with the starters. 2) In a more of a max-protect, play-action type scheme that will give him more time. 3) Starting the game and not being put in to try to come back from a 10+ point deficit. 4) With a pro bowl running back behind him. These are all things that he has never had, so it will be interested to see. I'm excited about it. One more thing....why couldn't Gibbs have had that "gut feeling" to go with Ramsey during the week instead if during the game...

11-15-2004, 02:45 PM	#17
skinsguy Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Greensboro, North Carolina Posts: 6,766	I didn't get to see the fourth quarter, but I can definitely say that from what I did see that the problems in the passing game were not soley Mark Brunell's problem. There were dropped passes all over the place....from Jacobs, Coles, Gardner, even Portis. Ramsey looked very very rusty....pretty much reminded me of Brunell. However, according the the numbers I saw on Ramsey, it appeared that he settled down a bit and nearly brought the team back to tie. From what you guys said, it seems like he should have had several interceptions, but I agree that having no practice time with the first team offensive will do that to a QB. I imagine once he gets more practice time he'll improve somewhat. I just hate that if he does start the rest of the season, that he has to start against teams like the Eagles and the Steelers. I think he can do a pretty decent job against the Giants, Cowboys, 49er's... but its a rough time for Patrick to finally get the starting nod. I do think he'll spark our offense...as long as the teams we have left to play doesn't get us off of our game plan which is a heavy dose of Portis.

11-15-2004, 03:58 PM	#18
bedlamVR Special Teams Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 389	I hate that fact too the kid gets his chance against the toughtest part of the schedual and to begin away at the linc is a real batism of fire but I would be happy with 2 wins out of the remaining games... Hell i would be happy with more than 56 yards passing...

11-15-2004, 06:22 PM	#19
wolfeskins The Starter Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: chesapeake,va. Posts: 2,160	ramsey will look rusty and out of sink for a couple of games aspecially considering the next few teams we play but in time he will get back in the groove and play pretty good. i wish he would have been the starter at the beginning of the season, he would already be playing well and the skins record would be much better. i agree that coles looked very excited about the return of ramsey. you know it's got to break gibbs' heart having to bench the player he most coveted. P.S. mccants needs to get more playing time, i never see him drop passes.

11-15-2004, 06:31 PM	#20
skinsguy Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Greensboro, North Carolina Posts: 6,766	I would love to see us improve on our record from a year ago though...even if it's a 6-10 record. I don't think I can stand another 5-11 season. I would be thrilled to see the Redskins make it to 8-8.....which is still possible. The Giants, Cowboys, and Vikings are all taking a nose dive it seems, and we should be able to beat the 49ers. Right there could make us 7-9 at season's end...and who knows...we might play great against the Eagles at least once and split the series making us 8-8. We still have possiblities to make this season a decent season and to make us end it at .500; but we got to beat the teams we know we can beat and I know we can beat the Giants, Cowboys, and 49ers...and I think we have a good chance at beating the Vikings. Maybe by then, Ramsey will be settled and playing well....Lord knows if we get our passing game going we're going to be very tough to beat. Heck, we're tough to beat now without a passing game. Even though we were down by 17 points yesterday, we still came back and gave ourselves a little chance to tie the game. To this day, we have not been routed or shut out....now that might change agains the Eagles I dunno...but we are still so close in become the team that I know Gibbs is wanting us to be! A team that restores the glory years!!

11-16-2004, 02:03 PM	#21
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 43 Posts: 17,620	i doubt we'll ever see PR have 4 sub 100 yards games (or halves), ever... i still think it sucks that nearly 22 minutes passed before inserting ramsey, and then, with close to 40 minutes left, there was a panic and the run game was completely abandoned (even though portis was getting 4.8ypc)... still feel we got a better chacne with ramsey... he does throw more ints, but at least they're downfield, and we got a D to save points.

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