Defensive line arrangement

Skinny Tee · 03-08-2009, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by dmek25

Redskins Make Contract Offer to Daniels

Jason Reid reports:

The Washington Redskins made a contract offer to veteran defesive lineman Phillip Daniels, who wants to return to the team.
i guess he will be back. hopefully they arent paying him anything

Daniels is finished. This is troubling if he gets signed because he will start now that Taylor is gone.

His production wasn't too entralling before he suffered the season ending injury last year. I don't really expect him to bounce back and become a factor this year. I hope there is another solution to our DE spot.

Pocket$ $traight · 03-08-2009, 02:24 PM

Waiting for the obligatory "I like Orakpo" comment even though the guy isn't making it out of the top 10 and he is basically a younger Andre Carter.

Skinny Tee · 03-08-2009, 03:02 PM

If we stay pat with the FA's that we have right now, what line position do you think will be addressed with our first pick in the draft? OT or DE?

For our sake I hope it's OT because we are coming off of a year where our defense ranked 4th in yards overall. Let them deal with deprivation because they are the most suited to handle it.

Our 13th pick overall should be OT. Our team is not that deep in depth so we don't have the luxury of being able to pick the best athlete. Our draft choice has to be narrowed down to OT.

WaldSkins · 03-08-2009, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Pocket$ $traight

Waiting for the obligatory "I like Orakpo" comment even though the guy isn't making it out of the top 10 and he is basically a younger Andre Carter.

What about Everette Brown or Tyson Jackson?

The Goat · 03-08-2009, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Pocket$ $traight

Waiting for the obligatory "I like Orakpo" comment even though the guy isn't making it out of the top 10 and he is basically a younger Andre Carter.

Haha you're so right... we met as well sit around and talk about how good we'll be w/ Curry in the lineup.

CRedskinsRule · 03-08-2009, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by The Goat

Haha you're so right... we met as well sit around and talk about how good we'll be w/ Curry in the lineup.

OMG We are getting CURRY OMG WE ARE GOING TO THE SB!!!!

cool that was fun.

I love watching the draft and seeing what teams are doing. It always is intriguing.

The Goat · 03-08-2009, 03:31 PM

I wonder if there will be a Brady Quinn this year... Sanchez could be that guy but I didn't necessarily mean a QB.

... btw I don't think this will happen to A. Smith.

gully · 03-08-2009, 03:32 PM

I wouldn't be surprised to see some cases of just that, where Haynesworth, Griffin, and Gholston/Montgomery on the line at the same time.

One of the bigger disappointments of last year was Gholston beating out Montgomery in the depth chart, after Monty had a much better year the season before. Clearly we have an issue at one DE spot. Daniels is ancient even though he's going to be paid very modestly.

I hope that C Wilson can have a big year. I'd hate for him to wander off to another team and find a niche like Evans, Clemons, and Kalu have done in the past.

ChickenMonkey · 03-08-2009, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by WaldSkins

What about Everette Brown or Tyson Jackson?

Tyson Jackson would be the perfect fit at DE, if we trade down in the 20's

OT Jamon Meredith in the 2nd

budw38 · 03-08-2009, 04:33 PM

We need a DE that can get some heat on the QB . If Ac goes down , we will have no pass rush . I know Al H. is an awesome talent , but you can't have 1 DT to get to the QB . Are front 4 could be championship caliber with a DE that teams have to account for, not to mention , it would take some of the pounding of constant dbl teaming of A.H. Hopefully we can also find a T .

The Goat · 03-08-2009, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by budw38

We need a DE that can get some heat on the QB . If Ac goes down , we will have no pass rush . I know Al H. is an awesome talent , but you can't have 1 DT to get to the QB . Are front 4 could be championship caliber with a DE that teams have to account for, not to mention , it would take some of the pounding of constant dbl teaming of A.H. Hopefully we can also find a T .

There's nobody (available) who fits the bill. Orakpo isn't falling to us and we'd be a bit silly to take a DE w/ our first pick anyway considering our predicament at OT and OLB. Honestly I think Blache might have enough to work w/ after we re-sign Daniels. AC can go all three downs and while we want the most from his pass-rush he's strong enough to play LDE here and there. So downs where we want maximum pass rush ability Carter switches to LDE and Wilson comes in at RDE.

tryfuhl · 03-09-2009, 02:48 AM

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Originally Posted by WaldSkins

When have you seen either one of them collapse the pocket to pressure the quarterback? Yea they can stop the run but they don't do anything on passing downs.

that's also part of the scheme unfortunately, when you play for the run you've given the blocker an advantage on a passing down and don't as quick of a burst

Miller101 · 03-09-2009, 10:05 AM

Wilson has impressed when he has gotten the chance and its not even that much. He only plays about two snaps a game. But, when he does play those two snaps he does pretty well. I say throw Wilson in there. Make him a starter. Lets see if he's got it or not. Daniels can back him up and rotate in there when Wilson needs a break.

GoSkins! · 03-09-2009, 10:17 AM

We need a guy like Daniels to complete the "running down" package. The guy may be ancient, but he can hold his ground and keep contain. I'd put Haynesworth and Montgomery inside and Carter and Daniels on the ends. Last year Montgomery was commanding a double team most of the time (even more than Griffith). You can't double him and Haynesworth and expect to keep Carter off your QB. I'd love to see the blitzing lanes if those two guys can start dominating at the line.

I'd like to hear from Gtripp on who he would rather see next to Haynesworth, Monty or Griff based on the tape he was looking at last year.

ibleedburgandy · 03-09-2009, 11:17 AM

"Tyson Jackson would be the perfect fit at DE, if we trade down in the 20's

OT Jamon Meredith in the 2nd"

I'd have to agree with this statement...since there is alot of depth at OL, DE, & LB in the draft then trade down, pick up the best DE/LB available in the first, pick up the best available OL prospect in the 2nd and draft the best DE/LB prospect in the 3rd (which ever position wasn't picked in the first)! Putting Gholston or Monte on the edge isn't needed if we pick up a younger faster version of Daniels in the draft (Tyson Jackson) and Jamon Meredith is a sleeper in the second. The man is a beast and can compete for the right tackle spot!

03-08-2009, 02:24 PM	#17
Pocket$ $traight Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Fairfax, VA Age: 48 Posts: 4,261	Re: Defensive line arrangement Waiting for the obligatory "I like Orakpo" comment even though the guy isn't making it out of the top 10 and he is basically a younger Andre Carter.

03-08-2009, 03:02 PM	#18
Skinny Tee The Starter Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Redskins Nation Posts: 1,715	Re: Defensive line arrangement If we stay pat with the FA's that we have right now, what line position do you think will be addressed with our first pick in the draft? OT or DE? For our sake I hope it's OT because we are coming off of a year where our defense ranked 4th in yards overall. Let them deal with deprivation because they are the most suited to handle it. Our 13th pick overall should be OT. Our team is not that deep in depth so we don't have the luxury of being able to pick the best athlete. Our draft choice has to be narrowed down to OT. __________________ Redskinsly, _________Skinny Tee_________

03-08-2009, 03:31 PM	#22
The Goat Pro Bowl Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 5,662	Re: Defensive line arrangement I wonder if there will be a Brady Quinn this year... Sanchez could be that guy but I didn't necessarily mean a QB. ... btw I don't think this will happen to A. Smith. __________________ 24-34

03-08-2009, 03:32 PM	#23
gully Camp Scrub Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: San Francisco CA Posts: 22	Re: Defensive line arrangement I wouldn't be surprised to see some cases of just that, where Haynesworth, Griffin, and Gholston/Montgomery on the line at the same time. One of the bigger disappointments of last year was Gholston beating out Montgomery in the depth chart, after Monty had a much better year the season before. Clearly we have an issue at one DE spot. Daniels is ancient even though he's going to be paid very modestly. I hope that C Wilson can have a big year. I'd hate for him to wander off to another team and find a niche like Evans, Clemons, and Kalu have done in the past.

03-08-2009, 04:33 PM	#25
budw38 Playmaker Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern,Va. Posts: 2,706	Re: Defensive line arrangement We need a DE that can get some heat on the QB . If Ac goes down , we will have no pass rush . I know Al H. is an awesome talent , but you can't have 1 DT to get to the QB . Are front 4 could be championship caliber with a DE that teams have to account for, not to mention , it would take some of the pounding of constant dbl teaming of A.H. Hopefully we can also find a T .

03-09-2009, 10:05 AM	#28
Miller101 Special Teams Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 362	Re: Defensive line arrangement Wilson has impressed when he has gotten the chance and its not even that much. He only plays about two snaps a game. But, when he does play those two snaps he does pretty well. I say throw Wilson in there. Make him a starter. Lets see if he's got it or not. Daniels can back him up and rotate in there when Wilson needs a break. __________________ "And the Redskins went down there and manhandled them and they basically undressed them and now everybody's been lining up to get a piece of them." - John Riggins on the last game we played in Texas Stadium

03-09-2009, 10:17 AM	#29
GoSkins! The Starter Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Yorktown, Va Age: 55 Posts: 1,587	Re: Defensive line arrangement We need a guy like Daniels to complete the "running down" package. The guy may be ancient, but he can hold his ground and keep contain. I'd put Haynesworth and Montgomery inside and Carter and Daniels on the ends. Last year Montgomery was commanding a double team most of the time (even more than Griffith). You can't double him and Haynesworth and expect to keep Carter off your QB. I'd love to see the blitzing lanes if those two guys can start dominating at the line. I'd like to hear from Gtripp on who he would rather see next to Haynesworth, Monty or Griff based on the tape he was looking at last year. __________________ Not everything that counts can be counted, and not everything that can be counted counts. A. Einstien

03-09-2009, 11:17 AM	#30
ibleedburgandy Camp Scrub Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: San Antonio TX Posts: 17	Re: Defensive line arrangement "Tyson Jackson would be the perfect fit at DE, if we trade down in the 20's OT Jamon Meredith in the 2nd" I'd have to agree with this statement...since there is alot of depth at OL, DE, & LB in the draft then trade down, pick up the best DE/LB available in the first, pick up the best available OL prospect in the 2nd and draft the best DE/LB prospect in the 3rd (which ever position wasn't picked in the first)! Putting Gholston or Monte on the edge isn't needed if we pick up a younger faster version of Daniels in the draft (Tyson Jackson) and Jamon Meredith is a sleeper in the second. The man is a beast and can compete for the right tackle spot! __________________ Nukes...if that don't kill it then god don't want it dead!

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