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wilsowilso · 08-09-2009, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Pocket$ $traight

There is no way that Betts should be bumped for Mason. Betts pisses me off with his fumbling but he would start for several teams. Mason would not start for anyone.

I like the idea of Aldridge possibly making the team. I think we should have a scat back and I am all for anyone who would bump Randle-El off punt duty.

Betts was a reach when he was drafted and he is a reach if you think he is an NFL starting RB. He is also the worst running back I have ever seen on the goal line. I would welcome cutting Betts.

SBXVII · 08-09-2009, 12:16 AM

Betts is a good #2 RB, and filled in nicely when Portis went down, but keep in mind there was not a lot of teams knocking on his door to steal him away from the Skins when his contract came up. He wanted to test the open market and got no phone calls. My only concern is we have 3 RB's all around the same age and when one decides its time to hang up the cleats I'm betting the other two will be thinking the same thing only cause of age. The team needs to start looking for a Replacement for Portis who can be developed/groomed until Portis is ready to say goodbye. Someone young and talented like a Mason. I'm in no way saying he's ready to take over for Portis right now. but I'm sure he would do just as well a job as Betts did.

Pocket$ $traight · 08-09-2009, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by wilsowilso

Betts was a reach when he was drafted and he is a reach if you think he is an NFL starting RB. He is also the worst running back I have ever seen on the goal line. I would welcome cutting Betts.

Lol. Whatever you say, dude.

The worst runningback you have ever seen on the goaline? Ever? Why because the Giants had 3 guys in the backfield on every play in '07 when we ran left? (I was screaming at the TV for a bootleg on 3rd down but I am not sure Gibbs ran a single one in version 2.0 even though Campbell is an above average scrambler). I don't even have to bring up another team to dispute that.... Ever seen Mike Sellers on the goaline?

Pocket$ $traight · 08-09-2009, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by SBXVII

Betts is a good #2 RB, and filled in nicely when Portis went down, but keep in mind there was not a lot of teams knocking on his door to steal him away from the Skins when his contract came up. He wanted to test the open market and got no phone calls. My only concern is we have 3 RB's all around the same age and when one decides its time to hang up the cleats I'm betting the other two will be thinking the same thing only cause of age. The team needs to start looking for a Replacement for Portis who can be developed/groomed until Portis is ready to say goodbye. Someone young and talented like a Mason. I'm in no way saying he's ready to take over for Portis right now. but I'm sure he would do just as well a job as Betts did.

I don't recall that being true. I remember the Jets wanting him and I also remember that he decided to take less money in order to stay in his comfort zone. When was he signed? I don't think he ever hit the open market.

SBXVII · 08-09-2009, 12:21 AM

Perhaps we both are wrong but I coulda swore he waited to see what his value was and stayed with the Skins. I don't recall the Jets wanting him but I could be wrong. I'll admit that.

Pocket$ $traight · 08-09-2009, 12:22 AM

This Marcus Mason fantasy needs to end. He is the new Leigh Torrence. Both suck. That is why neither caught on anywhere when they were dropped.

Walt Harris was and is 1000 times better than Leigh Torrence and Marcus Mason is probably the 6th best back on the team counting the Caveman.

SBXVII · 08-09-2009, 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Pocket$ $traight

This Marcus Mason fantasy needs to end. He is the new Leigh Torrence. Both suck. That is why neither caught on anywhere when they were dropped.

Walt Harris was and is 1000 times better than Leigh Torrence and Marcus Mason is probably the 6th best back on the team counting the Caveman.

Wow, I guess you are right. Could you do me a favor and put a phone call in to Zorn and let him know cause now I'm baffled as to why they even challenged San Diego for Mason's rights? Especially when they could have just let him go cause he sucks like LT.

Pocket$ $traight · 08-09-2009, 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by SBXVII

Wow, I guess you are right. Could you do me a favor and put a phone call in to Zorn and let him know cause now I'm baffled as to why they even challenged San Diego for Mason's rights? Especially when they could have just let him go cause he sucks like LT.

Quit drinking and typing. So now Marcus Mason is in the same sentence as LT?

Why not Barry Sanders and Walter Payton next? He did lead the league in pre-season yards last year....

We are holding back a future hall of famer...

Do you really think he is going to make the roster?

SBXVII · 08-09-2009, 12:30 AM

Dude you are all over the board. LT Leigh Torrence. Wake the hell up. I just used initials. I was speaking of the same people you were. Are we a little agitated today Pocket? Did not get any last night? Whats all the hostility?

SBXVII · 08-09-2009, 12:32 AM

Your asking if I'm drinking and your the one switching from RB position to CB position? Can we switch to kickers next?

Pocket$ $traight · 08-09-2009, 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by SBXVII

Dude you are all over the board. LT Leigh Torrence. Wake the hell up. I just used initials. I was speaking of the same people you were. Are we a little agitated today Pocket? Did not get any last night? Whats all the hostility?

What hostility? I just love fantasies where a practice squad player is proclaimed better than a back who ran for over 1100 yards sharing the load for much of the year.

Don't worry about my personal life but your sister came over so you know the answer...

My bad on the "LT" reference. I should have known Leigh Torrence is "LT" now...

Pocket$ $traight · 08-09-2009, 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by SBXVII

Your asking if I'm drinking and your the one switching from RB position to CB position? Can we switch to kickers next?

Too many people have this fetish with Marcus Mason just like too many think that Leigh Torrence is some great cornerback. That is why I compare them.

I will spell things out better for you next time. Sorry about that.

SBXVII · 08-09-2009, 12:40 AM

Do you really think he is going to make the roster?

Personally ...he should. He's no worse then Betts and is a better RB then Rock who should be carrying the TTB name now. but to answer your question honestly, no he won't. For whatever reason people are afraid to shake things up. They would rather have 3 almost 30 y/o RB's instead of drafting, or signing a younger RB to groom to take over for Portis.

Pocket$ $traight · 08-09-2009, 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by SBXVII

Do you really think he is going to make the roster?

Personally ...he should. He's no worse then Betts and is a better RB then Rock who should be carrying the TTB name now. but to answer your question honestly, no he won't. For whatever reason people are afraid to shake things up. They would rather have 3 almost 30 y/o RB's instead of drafting, or signing a younger RB to groom to take over for Portis.

See, I completely disagree that he is no worse than Betts. Mason racked up his pre-season production when the scrubs were on the field. You think Betts wouldn't look like Priest Holmes against the 3rd and 4th stringers?

If Mason was better than Ladell Betts or Even Rock Cartwright he would have made the roster last year. Mason is a liability in pass protection and is not ready to be counted on in prime time. If San Diego (or any other team for that matter) really wanted him they could have given him a real contract.

SBXVII · 08-09-2009, 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Pocket$ $traight

Too many people have this fetish with Marcus Mason just like too many think that Leigh Torrence is some great cornerback. That is why I compare them.

I will spell things out better for you next time. Sorry about that.

You didn't have to. I for one knew Torrence sucked. No different then I know Westbrook sucks. I think it says a lot about either our scouting personel or position coach's who think some one will eventually become a super star.

but I do like Mason. He atleast gets positive yrds compared to Rock. I would prefer Mason over Rock any day. Plus at this point we have several people who can do exactly what Rock does. Don't forget Betts did the KR job before Rock. Thomas WR did it in college, Hall can do it, and I belive we have used Moss in that capacity atleast once or twice. I think the team could live with out Rock. and just like you and Mason I'm am just as confused about the love fest for Rock.

As for my sister visiting you last night........whatever works for you dude.

08-09-2009, 12:16 AM	#317
SBXVII Franchise Player Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 7,766	Re: Training Camp Updates: Betts is a good #2 RB, and filled in nicely when Portis went down, but keep in mind there was not a lot of teams knocking on his door to steal him away from the Skins when his contract came up. He wanted to test the open market and got no phone calls. My only concern is we have 3 RB's all around the same age and when one decides its time to hang up the cleats I'm betting the other two will be thinking the same thing only cause of age. The team needs to start looking for a Replacement for Portis who can be developed/groomed until Portis is ready to say goodbye. Someone young and talented like a Mason. I'm in no way saying he's ready to take over for Portis right now. but I'm sure he would do just as well a job as Betts did.

08-09-2009, 12:21 AM	#320
SBXVII Franchise Player Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 7,766	Re: Training Camp Updates: Perhaps we both are wrong but I coulda swore he waited to see what his value was and stayed with the Skins. I don't recall the Jets wanting him but I could be wrong. I'll admit that.

08-09-2009, 12:22 AM	#321
Pocket$ $traight Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Fairfax, VA Age: 50 Posts: 4,261	Re: Training Camp Updates: This Marcus Mason fantasy needs to end. He is the new Leigh Torrence. Both suck. That is why neither caught on anywhere when they were dropped. Walt Harris was and is 1000 times better than Leigh Torrence and Marcus Mason is probably the 6th best back on the team counting the Caveman.

08-09-2009, 12:30 AM	#324
SBXVII Franchise Player Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 7,766	Re: Training Camp Updates: Dude you are all over the board. LT Leigh Torrence. Wake the hell up. I just used initials. I was speaking of the same people you were. Are we a little agitated today Pocket? Did not get any last night? Whats all the hostility?

08-09-2009, 12:32 AM	#325
SBXVII Franchise Player Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 7,766	Re: Training Camp Updates: Your asking if I'm drinking and your the one switching from RB position to CB position? Can we switch to kickers next?

08-09-2009, 12:40 AM	#328
SBXVII Franchise Player Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 7,766	Re: Training Camp Updates: Do you really think he is going to make the roster? Personally ...he should. He's no worse then Betts and is a better RB then Rock who should be carrying the TTB name now. but to answer your question honestly, no he won't. For whatever reason people are afraid to shake things up. They would rather have 3 almost 30 y/o RB's instead of drafting, or signing a younger RB to groom to take over for Portis.

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