Global Warming? My A$$ Its Cold Outside

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by tryfuhl

So much of the argument is outside of politics though. Politics do eventually if not instantaneously flood whatever cause, of course.

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Again, if science is put into an unquestioned pedestal, as many -but not all, climate change activists do, it becomes a dangerous tool for political means.

the neighbor on the street recycles, why? because its good for the environment. But now an equally cynical power arises, if a politician encourages recycling, than an opponent who doesnt -maybe on an economic principle, than the pro recycling politician is also pro world and the anti recycling opponent favors killing the world. but really what happens is no one is in favor of killing the world so now, rather than stand on a sound principle the opponent is forced to accept, and try to minimize what in principle they are against. This method can be used effectively until the underlying "science" is no longer questioned, because to question it, is to attack the global climate.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

It's been an early spring in my area, no global warming my A$$

I'll shoot that damn lying groundhog

[GMScud]

IPCC underestimated Antarctic sea ice increase by 50%

Growing Glaciers

The Real Facts on Increasing Antarctic Ice

I lol'd:

YouTube - Preview: 'The Factor' Confronts Al Gore

[GusFrerotte]

THe whole spiel is global warming is man made and that is a total crock. THe best theory out is about how warming trends with the earth's temperature correlates with sunspot activity. Global Warming is way overplayed and is a tool to kill the US economy. Europe and the new economic giants of China and India pollute way more than the US does. Cap and Trade will just hinder US industry while the fat cats of US industry will still make billions of $$$$$$$$$$$$$ selling off their surplus carbon credits to China, Russia, India so they can pollute!!!!

[firstdown]

GW also causes earth quakes now>

Earth Quakes Probably Due to Global Warming: U.S., Canada, California, Myrtle Beach on waiting list - CNN iReport

And deadlier

Today's Quakes Deadlier Than In Past - CBS News

[dmek25]

DUBAI, United Arab Emirates — Nearly 60 million people living around the Himalayas will suffer food shortages in the coming decades as glaciers shrink and the water sources for crops dry up, a study said Thursday.

But Dutch scientists writing in the journal Science concluded the impact would be much less than previously estimated a few years ago by the U.N. Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. The U.N. report in 2007 warned that hundred of millions of people were at risk from disappearing glaciers.

[Trample the Elderly]

Ha ha ha Back in the day they used to get doctors to say that cigarettes were good for you.

[firstdown]

I thought we should fear flooding not drought. This Global warming is very confusing. First we must fear the heat, then its too cold, then its flood, then its drought, it seems to change to fit all weather.

[mlmdub130]

Originally Posted by firstdown

I thought we should fear flooding not drought. This Global warming is very confusing. First we must fear the heat, then its too cold, then its flood, then its drought, it seems to change to fit all weather.

shhh, they'll hear you

[firstdown]

We have about an inch of global warming on the ground and its not even winter.

[mlmpetert]

Originally Posted by firstdown

I thought we should fear flooding not drought. This Global warming is very confusing. First we must fear the heat, then its too cold, then its flood, then its drought, it seems to change to fit all weather.

Fear the cats:

Cats, Not Cars, Cause…Climate Change? | Breaking news and opinion on The Blaze

[firstdown]

A cute little pussy always causes global warming.

[htownskinfan]

Biggest jump ever seen in global warming gases
Biggest jump ever seen in global warming gases - Yahoo! News

WASHINGTON (AP) — The global output of heat-trapping carbon dioxide jumped by the biggest amount on record, the U.S. Department of Energy calculated, a sign of how feeble the world's efforts are at slowing man-made global warming.

The new figures for 2010 mean that levels of greenhouse gases are higher than the worst case scenario outlined by climate experts just four years ago.

"The more we talk about the need to control emissions, the more they are growing," said John Reilly, co-director of MIT's Joint Program on the Science and Policy of Global Change.

The world pumped about 564 million more tons (512 million metric tons) of carbon into the air in 2010 than it did in 2009. That's an increase of 6 percent. That amount of extra pollution eclipses the individual emissions of all but three countries — China, the United States and India, the world's top producers of greenhouse gases.

It is a "monster" increase that is unheard of, said Gregg Marland, a professor of geology at Appalachian State University, who has helped calculate Department of Energy figures in the past.

Extra pollution in China and the U.S. account for more than half the increase in emissions last year, Marland said.

"It's a big jump," said Tom Boden, director of the Energy Department's Carbon Dioxide Information Analysis Center at Oak Ridge National Lab. "From an emissions standpoint, the global financial crisis seems to be over."

Boden said that in 2010 people were traveling, and manufacturing was back up worldwide, spurring the use of fossil fuels, the chief contributor of man-made climate change.

India and China are huge users of coal. Burning coal is the biggest carbon source worldwide and emissions from that jumped nearly 8 percent in 2010.

"The good news is that these economies are growing rapidly so everyone ought to be for that, right?" Reilly said Thursday. "Broader economic improvements in poor countries has been bringing living improvements to people. Doing it with increasing reliance on coal is imperiling the world."

In 2007, when the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change issued its last large report on global warming, it used different scenarios for carbon dioxide pollution and said the rate of warming would be based on the rate of pollution. Boden said the latest figures put global emissions higher than the worst case projections from the climate panel. Those forecast global temperatures rising between 4 and 11 degrees Fahrenheit by the end of the century with the best estimate at 7.5 degrees.

Even though global warming skeptics have attacked the climate change panel as being too alarmist, scientists have generally found their predictions too conservative, Reilly said. He said his university worked on emissions scenarios, their likelihood, and what would happen. The IPCC's worst case scenario was only about in the middle of what MIT calculated are likely scenarios.

Chris Field of Stanford University, head of one of the IPCC's working groups, said the panel's emissions scenarios are intended to be more accurate in the long term and are less so in earlier years. He said the question now among scientists is whether the future is the panel's worst case scenario "or something more extreme."

"Really dismaying," Granger Morgan, head of the engineering and public policy department at Carnegie Mellon University, said of the new figures. "We are building up a horrible legacy for our children and grandchildren."

But Reilly and University of Victoria climate scientist Andrew Weaver found something good in recent emissions figures. The developed countries that ratified the 1997 Kyoto Protocol greenhouse gas limiting treaty have reduced their emissions overall since then and have achieved their goals of cutting emissions to about 8 percent below 1990 levels. The U.S. did not ratify the agreement.

In 1990, developed countries produced about 60 percent of the world's greenhouse gases, now it's probably less than 50 percent, Reilly said.

"We really need to get the developing world because if we don't, the problem is going to be running away from us," Weaver said. "And the problem is pretty close from running away from us."

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[firstdown]

So I guess we should have a milder winter this year. Break out the sunscreen.

I'll have to say my carbon foot print was smaller in 2010. So don't look at me.

[Alvin Walton]

Sometimes I ride my bike to the liquor store.
Take that carbon footprint!